HELP!!! I have tried absolutely everything, rear delt flies, face pulls, you name it ive probably tried it. anyone else have trouble with rear delts? how did you hit them hard and get em big??
Read Mountain Dog Shoulders—Watch his videos and follow them to a T.
Most bodybuilders use synthol or esik-clean to stretch the fascia to bring up that area
[quote]Ray567 wrote:
Most pro bodybuilders use synthol or esik-clean to stretch the fascia to bring up that area[/quote]
Some of the best beginner advice for bringing up rear delts I’ve ever seen.
Good lord.
I’m not advising him to do it. I never told him to.
It’s only a fact. Obviously OP is not a pro bodybuilder, so my statement about what pro bodybuilders do doesn’t apply to him…
Deffinatly do the synthol thing.
[quote]Ray567 wrote:
I’m not advising him to do it. I never told him to.
It’s only a fact. Obviously OP is not a pro bodybuilder, so my statement about what pro bodybuilders do doesn’t apply to him…[/quote]
lol then what was the point of responding to his question, in the beginners forum, about how to bring up his rear delts, with that comment?
I think you’re tryin to cause a ruckus, sir
[quote]Ray567 wrote:
I’m not advising him to do it. I never told him to.
It’s only a fact. Obviously OP is not a pro bodybuilder, so my statement about what pro bodybuilders do doesn’t apply to him…[/quote]
LOL GTFO
My bad, forgot I was in the beginners forum.
My intention was just to let him know that it is hard to bring up the rear delts without site enhancement oils and the like, so it is a common problem and not something to be as upset about as he seemed in the original post.
I see I am causing a bit of a ruckus though, so I will now leave
Bent over DB flies with lighter weight than you think you need. Focus on only the rear delt working.
Esiclene (a phenomenon from the nineties - see Flex, Kevin and Nasser) doesn’t even stretch the fascia. If you don’t know what you’re talking about, shut up.
Saying that “most” bodybuilders use synthol in the rear delts and that it’s “hard to bring them up without enhancement oils” is ridiculous.
The problem is that during the last decade bodybuilding has been hijacked on the internet fora by the functional fanatics. Most of them are pencilnecks with zero field experience but who got a degree in I-don’t-know-what which they felt gave them the right to claim the one and only truth. The sorry thing is, that this madness was blindly picked up by the internauts, and a trend was set. Suddenly Vince Gironda etc. were forgotten, and even some well reputed coaches jumped on the wagon. Only recently a few top coaches stood up and returned to the bodybuilding basics. Thank you Hany Rambod and John Meadows. The “pump” is back! If you follow bodybuilding during 20 years, it’s really remarkable how trends come and go.
Now suddenly CT starts writing about the value of the “pump” again. I’m happy for it.
The bottom line: what separates bodybuilders from powerlifters is ISOLATION, TUT AND VOLUME.
After your basic work, isolate and put volume. Otherwise, you can row whatever you want, you’ll never develop rear delts. There it is, I said it! After years of tabou, the word is out! 
Esikclean irritates the muscle tissue, causing an inflammatory reaction due to an accumulation of lymph fluid. This makes the muscle bigger for a while. When the muscle is bigger than it was before, the fascia is stretched, so even after it has worn off, it is easier to grow new muscle. But due to the very temporary effects of esiclene (meaning much less time where the fascia is being stretched), after synthol was invented esiclene became much less popular, for the purpose of fascia stretching anyway.
I’m not saying that for somebody like OP “you can’t bring up rear delts without enhancement oils”. If you stopped misquoting me you could see I’m talking about pro BBers, not “‘most’ bodybuilers”. OP is a beginner and can obviously explore different training methods etc. to bring up his rear delts.
Most of my knowledge on site enhancement oils etc. is from musculardevelopment where I can read it straight from accounts like Shawn Ray’s on the forums, or gh15, etc. I do know what I’m talking about
[quote]StateOfPsychosis wrote:
Bent over DB flies with lighter weight than you think you need. Focus on only the rear delt working.[/quote]
true that
[quote]tigre1 wrote:
[quote]StateOfPsychosis wrote:
Bent over DB flies with lighter weight than you think you need. Focus on only the rear delt working.[/quote]
true that[/quote]
Yes definitely true.
I have recently altered they way I do all shoulder (delt) exercises, especially side raises & face pulls:
side raise done after (531) overhead press, with emphasis on no swinging whatsoever and controlled decent, low weight highish reps (~15) and drop sets. I now find the whole area pumps/burns not just the traps.
Face pulls, look at the Diesel site and you’ll see Smitty doing a retraction first before the actual rep. I started this (on each rep at first) and noticed the difference in a couple of weeks. I retract and do a few reps (3-5) then re-set and continue the set. Again I do 15-20 reps.
Gmoore17 honestly, best post ive ever seen. and guys, guys, im not small or anything, 6’2" and 210 lbs lean. i just havent been able to bring up the rear delts to level my anterior and medialis are at, and was wondering if anyone had stumbled upon a good method or exercise
This has been mentioned already but seriously Shoulder Training: The Mountain Dog Way
Hang and Swing Destroyer Set - YouTube
Focus on TUT (time under tension). Meaning hold everything at the top and then lower REALLY slow. As others have suggested lowering the weight and upping the reps should definitely help. Bent lateral raises are my favorite for the rear delt, with palms facing your feet.
When I say lower it slow I’m talking lower it so slow that you get bored when it’s coming down. Don’t bother counting or anything, as a beginner just focus on the form and bring it down with a really long inhale.
Also don’t forget to rub horse semen into your shoulders.
strict wide grip rows
face pulls
[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:
This has been mentioned already but seriously Shoulder Training: The Mountain Dog Way
Hang and Swing Destroyer Set - YouTube
Tried this yesterday, f***ing amazing