Ok guys, I have the motivation and the stuff needed to start bulking up. I’m planning on taking a serving of cytogainer before and after working out. My routine will be focused on a single muscle group a day with Sundays for rest.
Should I get some fat burners like red lines to keep the energy up? Should I do fewer reps but higher weight or more reps and medium/low weight? 4 exercises of 4 sets each. Do I seem to have a good plan or what do you recommend?
Do you have a good plan??? your wanting to bulk and no mention of eating. Then you mention a fat burner ???
You talk about a w/o and then pretty much ask what you should do.
Get a diet nailed how mauch are you going to eat. Get a workout plan exercises sets reps etc. lay it out for us and we can give more feed back.
Fat burner id say NO if you need energy go with Spike.
Hope that helps read up on the beginer threads above nail the diet and training basics and come on back,
Phill
[quote]Phill wrote:
Do you have a good plan??? your wanting to bulk and no mention of eating. Then you mention a fat burner ???
You talk about a w/o and then pretty much ask what you should do.
Get a diet nailed how mauch are you going to eat. Get a workout plan exercises sets reps etc. lay it out for us and we can give more feed back.
Fat burner id say NO if you need energy go with Spike.
Hope that helps read up on the beginer threads above nail the diet and training basics and come on back,
Phill[/quote]
Phil hit it on the head. As far as a plan though - I’m in slight disagreement. Don’t make it a diet and track your calories etc. Just MAKE SURE you’re eating a ton.
[quote]moester wrote:
My routine will be focused on a single muscle group a day…[/quote]
I hope your single muscle group a day includes deadlifts and squats, cleans and snatches.
Eat when you are not hungry drink water when you are not thirsty. Take a multi-vitamin, and by all means get plenty of rest. You grow when you sleep. I carry some good mass for my height and that is what I do. To be a champion you must train like one.
How much do you weigh, how much do you want to weigh?
How many calories do you take in now?
How many times per day do you eat?
What do you eat when?
How long will your workouts take?
Any cardio?
Any abs?
What kind of exercises will you do?
In short, what is your plan?
Without a plan and goals, you could drink 2 cases of beer and a few bags of Doritos per day and bulk up.
Post your plan if you want a critique.
Stinker
I should’ve given you more details on the diet. I weight around 150 pounds. I’m trying to get around 180. I have been able to get 160 pounds but I lost it all from doing too much cardio.
I live on campus so i’m limited to what the cafeteria serves which is pasta and burgers, tuna salad. I can’t eat many times a day due it being closed during certain times. Are there any kind of meals that wouldn’t require cooking?
[quote]Stinker wrote:
How much do you weigh, how much do you want to weigh?
150 to 180
How many calories do you take in now?
Hard to tell. I think enough to maintain my weight without gaining too much fat. I havent worked out in a while though
How many times per day do you eat?
3 i know i should eat a lot more
What do you eat when?
ceral in the morning, OJ, pasta or burger at noon, sandwich at night.
How long will your workouts take?
45mins to 1:20
Any cardio?
I probably will do a little
Any abs?
little
What kind of exercises will you do?
In short, what is your plan?
Gain some mass since I have been slacking for a while.
Without a plan and goals, you could drink 2 cases of beer and a few bags of Doritos per day and bulk up.
Post your plan if you want a critique.
Stinker[/quote]
I would start by posting the workout you plan on doing, and how much you think you need to eat. The suggestion of Spike is a good one. Power Drive would be a good choice as well.
Starting stats, plan, goals. You won’t get much help without them.
-folly
[quote]Phill wrote:
Do you have a good plan??? your wanting to bulk and no mention of eating. Then you mention a fat burner ???
You talk about a w/o and then pretty much ask what you should do.
Get a diet nailed how mauch are you going to eat. Get a workout plan exercises sets reps etc. lay it out for us and we can give more feed back.
Fat burner id say NO if you need energy go with Spike.
Hope that helps read up on the beginer threads above nail the diet and training basics and come on back,
Phill[/quote]
my bad, I hadn’t realized how bad that sounded. I meant using the fat burners as energy not to actually burn fat since they are mainly caffeine. I think the diet should have a lot of lean meats and pasta, egg whites. I have a hard time figuring out how many calories im taking.
Thank you for your reply. Given the information you provided, the thing that I would do first is work out.
Hard.
Three times per week, whole body.
If you are 150 lbs and haven’t worked out for a while, I’m assuming that it’s not all muscle.
You need to get used to working out.
Hard.
Go like this for 3-4 months, if you are still lifting after this time, maybe then you split your routine and go to 4-5 days. If you start 6 days now you will burn out or get injured. Go slow and have fun. Get into a routine and enjoy it. Thirty pounds of muscle will take a bit of time to accumulate.
Eat as much as you can, whenever you can. Keep carbs (sugars) down, eat quality protein, don’t worry about a weight gain shake. Quality protein supp and a multi-vite and you are set for now.
Just work out.
Hard.
Stinker
[quote]moester wrote:
I should’ve given you more details on the diet. I weight around 150 pounds. I’m trying to get around 180. I have been able to get 160 pounds but I lost it all from doing too much cardio.
I live on campus so i’m limited to what the cafeteria serves which is pasta and burgers, tuna salad. I can’t eat many times a day due it being closed during certain times. Are there any kind of meals that wouldn’t require cooking?[/quote]
Just to give you some perspective, I weighed 190 pounds when I started my bulk a couple weeks ago. Are you sure 180 is all you’re looking for?
[quote]Defender wrote:
moester wrote:
I should’ve given you more details on the diet. I weight around 150 pounds. I’m trying to get around 180. I have been able to get 160 pounds but I lost it all from doing too much cardio.
I live on campus so i’m limited to what the cafeteria serves which is pasta and burgers, tuna salad. I can’t eat many times a day due it being closed during certain times. Are there any kind of meals that wouldn’t require cooking?
Just to give you some perspective, I weighed 190 pounds when I started my bulk a couple weeks ago. Are you sure 180 is all you’re looking for?[/quote]
I just checked and i’m 153 pounds. I’m 5’8’’ so I think 180 after cutting should be pretty descent looking. I think you guys are under the impression I haven’t done this before but i’m pretty familiar with all the machines and excersices I just haven’t been able to stick with it for a long period of time due to moving around and living arrangements. I know that shouldn’t be an excuse but I get used to the way I have my daily workout schedule set up. There might even be a stereotype for people like me but i’m trying real hard again.
[quote]moester wrote:
I just checked and i’m 153 pounds. I’m 5’8’’ so I think 180 after cutting should be pretty descent looking. I think you guys are under the impression I haven’t done this before but i’m pretty familiar with all the machines and excersices I just haven’t been able to stick with it for a long period of time due to moving around and living arrangements. I know that shouldn’t be an excuse but I get used to the way I have my daily workout schedule set up. There might even be a stereotype for people like me but i’m trying real hard again.[/quote]
I wasn’t doubting your experience but was just curious what you were after. I’ve noticed that when someone comes on here and considers 180 pounds to be a bulking goal, it’s usually because he has different ideas than most people here about what constitutes good size.
I really think our ideas about what constitues good size are skewed by Hollywood and marketing. When you look at actors and male models, it’s not so much the size as the proportions that stand out. Brad Pitt, Matt Damon, Ryan Reynolds, and Tom Cruise are touted as being “built” when the reality is they don’t have all that much muscle compared to bodybuilders. They simply have defined the muscle they do have by cutting to a low level of bodyfat.
And that’s what I think a lot of people come here and ask about. They want to look like the people they see on TV or in ads. And because you can see the muscles of those people, the assumption is that they are muscular. So they come here and ask how they can look like that.
Except their goals and the goals of bodybuilders are not quite the same. While both are after physique management, the person after the actor/model physique is primarily interested in achieving symmetry without significant size. I’m not lumping you into that category, but I have a feeling that’s what many of the people here are after. Bodybuilders, too, want that symmetry. But they want it by building their bodies as fully as possible. This means making your muscles grow beyond what most people consider appealing.
You have to train consistently. No deviation. And EAT. Swipe food from the cafeteria in a backpack. You have to eat.
Read vrooms “Are you a Beginner” threads in the beginner section.
other than food and sleep get some pictures
what does bulking up mean to you?
Look. Cytogainer is good. So is Surge and they are very similar, but in my opinion, don’t take a full serving before AND after you work out. That’s a BUTTLOAD of sugar. Personally, if I take Cytogainer I cut the serving size in half and add a scoop of Grow! Whey. I was putting on too much fat when I was doing a whole serving.
As for food:
Eggs
Peanut butter
tuna
cheese
BEEF
BEEF
BEEF
fruits
oatmeal
pizza
DD
Did something similar junior year in college. Cafe food and all. Went from 158 or so to 180.
If you have a kitchen ( if you dont go to a friends house with tupperware) Buy some wheat pasta, spaghetti. A log or two of ground beef, Gallons of milk, Cheese and pasta sauce.
Keep it simple , just add some veggies to the ground beef to keep it different.
Since you are in college I know you dont have much money ( after beer, weed, X and assorted other issues)and as such no big dent in budget.
Eat a lot. Train with basic movements so that you are moving a lot of weight. Meaning Squats, Deads, Bench, Clean and Jerk. There a lot of articles and and posts that you can look up for bulking.
Just dont be surprised to find your self at 18o thinking “hmm 205 here i come”.
Same height or a inch shorter than you and thats the goal.
Good luck. Kick ass and lift heavy.
Thanks for the feedback guys. I just went through my first week of training and I feel good. I’m sore all over. I’m eating everything except sugars and deep fried foods. Mainly burgers, cereal, milk, juice, steaks, chicken, and beer you name it. I?m taking 4 scoops of cytogainer everyday in the morning. I drink half of it before and during workout and finish it off as I walk out. I worked my legs yesterday and my right knee joint is still a little sore. It hurts a little when I do leg extensions.
I also find myself super tired after the gym. It’s like I burn all my energy and all I wanna do is sleep.
Do you have any more feedback for me?