Pinning weekly:
Test C 300mg
Deca 600mg
Masteron E 200mg
Dbol 37.5mg/day
Feeling good, mood ok. Nothing much out of the ordinary. Scale moved up by about 2lb while the waist is down half a cm. The sickly, extreme diet look is more or less gone, and my eye sockets aren’t as hollow as they were a month ago.
Everything tastes fantastic. Developed a sudden fetish for oats - oat pancakes, oat bread, oats soaked overnight in milk and whey, oats as a thickening agent in stews and broths, fish coated in oats and fried instead of in flour…
Muscles feel a bit fuller. The striations on my abs have somewhat disappeared but I don’t care. Everything tastes great and all I think about is what’s next on the menu. I’ll be increasing calories intake by 100 this week.
In short I can mostly see progress in my appetite and a little muscle fullness. Also more energy in the gym.
I’m getting one or two more reps in in my compounds. My rest time between sets has shortened as well. I’ll be increasing the weight at my next session.
I would advise keeping a record of your strength progress. You should be able to find a method of graphing your progress to track rate and help to see plateaus.
This is much simpler if the reps are the same and the weight is the variable.
But if you have both weight and reps as variables, I would think the 2% per rep conversion to place all weight and reps to a single variable of weight.
I can explain with examples if you don’t see how to do the conversions. It is fairly simple once you see how percentages work.
If you post your strength progress: day, weight, and number of reps I can generate hypothesis fitted line plots. They will help you determine the rate of strength increase as feedback for addition of calories or consideration of change of AAS. You will need to be able to assess if you are maintaining a body composition that you feel is acceptable.
Agreed. I’m only 10 days in so far and am still getting a feel of what to expect. As a rule of thumb I’ve always measured progress based on intensity instead of volume.
I am however doing my own strength/hypertrophy method which I developed based on my experience and past results so I won’t be always increasing intensity, but sometimes reps or number of sets, depending on outlined goals.
This is quite a generous offer and sounds like something many would be willing to pay a decent amount of money for. Therefore I can’t really accept it as is -(because I’ll feel a certain type of responsibility and accountability not to let you and others on this forum down and I really don’t need that type of pressure currently with several pressing matters already weighing me down)-, but I can and will however be posting my stats here on a regular basis for everyone to see and which you can freely analyze however you see fit.
This is something I did at work helping managers do their Six Sigma projects. It would be fun for me. Back when I was tracking AAS cycle progress I didn’t have the statistical knowledge to do this or the software to make it something that wouldn’t be extremely labor intensive.
As for the pressure, I would find comfort knowing when to intervene. Your progress should start out fairly linear, but over some time the rate of progress will slow somewhat. This will show graphically.
But all that said, I understand your hesitation. It would place a spot light on your progress.
I wish you much success and a very noticeable improvement. And also good health.
It’s been two weeks with daily dbol and 9 days in with deca. I weighed myself this morning and the scale showed 1 pound over yesterday’s weight. I attribute this to mostly water and everyday normal fluctuation but the overall path on the scale is headed upwards.
Waist is 91.5cm (36 inches) around the navel. If it wasn’t for the bloat, i reckon I’d be at 91. If I can keep that below 92 while still gaining weight, I’d call that progress.
I must admit I’ve been having horrible sleep nearly every night for around two months, which may turn out to be my biggest constraint regards to progress. I can’t get more than 4 hours sleep, 5 if I’m lucky and that is maybe twice per week. So far coffee has been my best friend and aid.
Quick update: 11th day of cycle (15th since starting dbol)
I can’t remember the last time I felt as strong as I did yesterday at the gym. The weights were literally flying and to my shock I was just increasing poundage by 10-20lb on lifts such as the standing barbell press, the hammer strength press and chest supported row.
Inspired by @RT_Nomad advice, I decided to focus more on increasing intensity and implement sort of a Mentzer HIT style. Moving heavier weight gives a sense of satisfaction and progress and hopefully I can make it sustainable.
What are your guys views on Mentzer’s HIT training?
My body weight increase certainly is linear. I believe it’s due to the synergistic anabolic effect of Dianabol paired with copious spoonfuls of peanut butter which I seemingly can’t resist.
I went from 93kg (205lb) ten days ago to 95.4kg (210.3lb) as of today. Hopefully the weight gain will slow down a bit in the near future. According to MyFitnessPal, I’m eating between 3200 and 3500 calories. 4000 slipped by yesterday thanks to rice cakes and the peanut butter.
I am not necessarily recommending HIT, but you should be getting stronger on all of your lifts. That is what is important. You don’t need to go to failure to track increasing strength. You should be able to know when you most likely will not complete the next rep.
Whether you decide on HIT or greater volume (an extra set with greater weight than last week), in either case you should have more recovery capability on your cycle.
What about the body weight increase? When does that eventually taper off and plateau’s? At this rate I’m gaining 4.4lb a week… Goal was to gain about 1.5 - 1.8lb/week for 16 weeks. I’m guessing it has much to do with water and glycogen storage. Hopefully.
Have you got a metric to measure % body fat? That is what you want to keep in check. I find that the skin fold test is the most reliable to track changes (once you or the person doing it gets the knack to get repeatable results.)
Your rapid weight gain is most likely water. Because your strength is increasing a large percentage of the fluid is in your muscles. Make sure you are not adding salt to your diet and minimize all processed foods. Most of those have a high sodium content. I don’t recommend extreme reduction of sodium, just a conscious awareness.
I never experienced the rapid weight gain that you are having. It might be the quantity of AAS you are taking. Hopefully it is just a little excessive sodium intake.
Start taking pics of your ankles as a reference. Excessive edema usually pools in the lower leg. Also monitor your blood pressure. You don’t want it to get excessively high. Excess water retention could increase blood pressure.
BW 95.4kg ~210lb
Waist 90.5cm ~ 35.6inch
Biceps 16.4 inches (never measured these before so hopefully got it right)
As much as I’m trying to adhere to my diet, I had a major slipup last night - I bought a bunch of Turkish baklava deserts. I ate almost all of them in less then a minute — +1000cals
Got the biggest munchies in the evening I’ve never in my life experienced, to the point that my hands were shaking. Peanut butter to the rescue — +1000cals
So instead of my regular 3200cals daily I shoved down about 5200cals.
Surprisingly the scale this morning showed I didn’t gain one gram more than the day before! Even though it was just a day’s slip up, how is it possible that I haven’t gained a gram, but when I was eating only a few hundred calories over maintenance these past couple of weeks the scale was moving upwards day to day?
EDIT:
I just benched 10kg more for 4 reps than my 4rm from ten days ago. Thank you, Mr Peanut
IMO, almost all rapid weight gains and loses are water weight. Also, actual drop or gain in fat has what I can “inertia.” That is, the fat prefers to stay where it is. Your diet has to overcome the “inertia” to change. (Or you might relate it to a pH buffer.)
All that said, fat will begin to accumulate. Excess calories, and in particular, sugar will overcome the “inertia.”
I would suggest staying on a clean diet. It helps keep gains and loses easier to analyze. Your body composition feedback system is easier to relate to your diet.
I’m positive much of my added weight is water and possibly muscle. I don’t believe it to be fat since my waist circumference is the same and whenever I gain fat, the first place it goes is to my gut and it’s the last place for it to leave likewise.
I’m keeping it as clean as I can. I’m eating at a surplus but only whole foods. That being said, I’ve decided to ‘risk’ putting on some excess fat if that means maximizing muscle growth. I’ve come to this conclusion while reading through my previous logs where I’ve put on mass but have never really gone all out and sometimes ended up spinning my wheels on several occasions. Basically I want to try and get as strong as possible in these 4 months without turning into a complete pig.
Pulled a new block deadlift PR yesterday: 507lb for 5 reps with more left in the tank. My goal is 600lb for reps.
It’s going good, thanks for asking. I was going to post a progress report one month in but I might as well do it now.
It’s been 3 weeks since my first deca/mast/test pin, and 4 weeks since taking dbol.
I’m sitting at 215lb, which is a 13lb increase since starting. I was fearful that I was gaining weight at an alarming rate and just getting fat. However, I’m liking what I see in the mirror, my waist is staying more or less the same, muscles feel much more fuller. I’m guessing it’s mostly water and glycogen store and hopefully some muscle that’s adding to the weight gain.
That being said, I have increased my calorie intake to about 3600, and consuming about 300-350g of protein daily. This is no chore at all since I’m constantly hungry and could eat at least 4500 calories per day easily. Hopefully once I stop gaining weight I can up them even more.
Mood wise I’m feeling good. More calm and collected than usual.
My libido has increased and I feel the itch more often than not. I don’t know whether this is because of the deca, the mast or the caber which I’m taking at 0.5mg twice per week. I’m guessing the mast and caber are synergistically enhancing my overall mood and libido. The added carbs and overall calories aren’t hurting either. Sleep quality has also improved and I’m getting at least 6 hours of sleep.
In the gym I feel very good, always ready to go heavy. I’m reaching and surpassing several previous PRs which I accomplished before when I was much heavier and fatter, so it’ll be interesting to see the end result of this cycle in regards to strength gains.
Here’s a progress photo this morning taken after a hearty breakfast.
