Raw Power

Training Over 35 Lifter
461

Steely, thanks man, I can’t figure out guys who can’t seem to get enough to eat. That’s never been my problem.

Kimba, thanks for the kick in the ass.

OG, it is indeed on like Donkey Kong.

Carl, I’ll give you a run down in a second.

DJHT, I saw your awesome results. I am not there yet, but I have not ruled it out. I would probably hit a protein sparing modified fast with solid foods before I went liquid, but I am going to see how something a little less drastic works. I can probably cut out 10k calories a week just on no ice cream and cookies and no liquid calories. So we shall see. I will get more aggressive with diet and conditioning as the days go by.

462

Carl, I am an old-school three event skier. Slalom, trick, and jump. I mostly just slalom now, but I’d like to get back on the ramp maybe next year.

The goal in slalom is to get around six red bouys and through a set of exit gates. If you do that, you increase the speed of the boat on the next pass in 2 mph increments until you hit 34 mph for old guys and 36 mph for younger guys, then you start cutting the rope. The rope is 75’ long, and has pre-measured segments to take off. You go from 15’ off, to 22’ off, to 28’ off, to 32’ off, to 35’off, to 38’off, to 39 1/2’ feet off to 41’ off, to 43’s off. You have to complete all six bouys before moving on the the next pass, although you can start and any rope length you want, and you have to run at least one pass for the score to count. You keep going until you miss a bouy or let go of the handle. The winner is the one who gets around the most bouys at the shortest rope length. The world record is 2 bouys at 43 off right now. At 38’ off, the rope when stretched from the pylon on the boat is at a right angle from the stern and just touches the bouy, in other words, its fully stretched out. 38’ off separates the men from the boys and in my day only pros could run that pass, although now its pretty common with imprvoved ski technology. I have been pretty deep into 35’ off.

Jump is pretty straight forward. You jump as far as you can at a set boat speed and boat path.

Here is a pro jumper. I was a 140 ft. jumper in college, but the boat was slower and the ramp was less steep.

Trick is a little more complicated, but you get points for doing tricks on a trick ski–the most points in a 2 20 second passes wins.

Here is me two summers ago.

Here is a pro jumper. I was a 140 ft. jumper in college, but the boat was slower and the ramp was less steep.

Here is a chick trick skiing–this was my worst event.

463

[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
Steely, thanks man, I can’t figure out guys who can’t seem to get enough to eat. That’s never been my problem.[/quote]

If I don’t eat by the clock I don’t eat. Goofyness, I know.

I can’t figure guys who can just sock it away and grow like tanks.

464

Loved watching the vid of you skiing. Very cool!

Good luck with the cutting. That can be tough, I’m sure.

465

That buoy skiing thing was very cool. I had no idea that existed!

The only time I ever tried to get up on water skis was when I was in high school and too weak to pull myself up. Yet, I was watching you ski thinking “I can totally do that”. :wink: Yeah, right!

Your 10k calorie comment made me laugh. That’s alot of ice cream and brewskis, my friend!

466

Great work in here Jack.

I think sprints + calorie reduction is definitely the right way to go.

I thought trouser size was more to do with your hip girth than waist size though. I have to wear a size 38 with a belt because I can’t get anything smaller over my arse. You might find even if you lose alot off your waist, your legs might still be too big for smaller trousers.

467

C_K, Snap, Kimba, Brett, thanks for the kind words.

Kimba, I doubt that I’m far off on my pie and ice cream estimate, plus milk, plus a few sodas here and there. All my nephews say things like, “I want a big piece of [insert pie, steak, anything other food] you know, like Uncle Jack’s!”

Brett, I know what you mean about pant size, but, unfortunately, my lifting belt doesn’t have to clear my ass and legs. I am carrying about 30% fat right now, and that’s just too much. I don’t need to be 10%, but I should be less than 20%.

Oh, and Go Seahawks!

468

JJ, got lots of advice for you if you’re interested. Bark at me when the time is right, and I’ll take a virtual dump onto your dietary planning.

469

Getting lean sucks, not that I’m lean or anything but I don’t think you’ll have to go all out to hit your weight goals.

470

Thanks C_K, I may take you up on that. Joe, thanks, we’ll see how it goes.

3’s day, Press, TM 185. Bodyweight: 242.

Press 45 x20, 95 x10, 115 x5, 135 x3, 150 x3, 165 x6.

Superset:

WG Pullups: 5, 4, 4, 3, 3.

Dips: 10, 10, 10, 10, 10.

Superset:

DB OHP: 50s x 10, 10, 10, 8, 8.

Close Grip Pulldowns: 100 x10, 115 x10, 130 x10, 145 x10, 175 x8.

Stairs: “Sprint” up, walk down, 11 flights.

Notes: I lost some water weight, apparently. I cramped up on the stairs, calves and quads. I think the creatine and low carbs did it. I need to drink more water I guess. I’ll keep adding volume and reps on the asst. work and increasing conditioning stuff gradually.

471

what’s up fatty?

Don’t think of it as a diet, think of it as a really shitty lifestyle change, one that means you are old, fat, mortal, and can’t just devour everything in sight. But it can be done with getting stronger. If you are smart, and you are smart.

I am at about the 95% level of ‘I only eat what I cook, and only eat what it going to lead to my goals’ level. OK, 85% if I am counting in the occasional adult beverage. Keeping carbs limited to brown rice, oatmeal, occasional and rare whole grain bread, and the rest fruits and veggies. 350 grams protein. Late night snack of natty peanut butter. And as you can see in my log a shit ton of boring cardio. On days when I lift late I rotate meals so it is carb/protein, fat+veggie/protein, fat+veggie/protein, carb/protein - train- carb/protein, fat+veggie/protein. If I lift earlier in the day, no carbs aside from pre, post, and post-post training. Weighed in at 298 back in October, I am now 280, but also substantially ‘bigger’ in the good way.

The trend with PL’ers is to not do low level cardio either. Fit some in. I still honestly believe that it really helps with nutrient partitioning. And recovery.

472

[quote]PeteS wrote:
what’s up fatty?

Don’t think of it as a diet, think of it as a really shitty lifestyle change, one that means you are old, fat, mortal, and can’t just devour everything in sight. But it can be done with getting stronger. If you are smart, and you are smart.

I am at about the 95% level of ‘I only eat what I cook, and only eat what it going to lead to my goals’ level. OK, 85% if I am counting in the occasional adult beverage. Keeping carbs limited to brown rice, oatmeal, occasional and rare whole grain bread, and the rest fruits and veggies. 350 grams protein. Late night snack of natty peanut butter. And as you can see in my log a shit ton of boring cardio. On days when I lift late I rotate meals so it is carb/protein, fat+veggie/protein, fat+veggie/protein, carb/protein - train- carb/protein, fat+veggie/protein. If I lift earlier in the day, no carbs aside from pre, post, and post-post training. Weighed in at 298 back in October, I am now 280, but also substantially ‘bigger’ in the good way.

The trend with PL’ers is to not do low level cardio either. Fit some in. I still honestly believe that it really helps with nutrient partitioning. And recovery. [/quote]

Pete, thanks, I needed to hear that, and I appreciate it. And don’t think I don’t notice what goes on in your log and the results you get, because I do.

473

[quote]PeteS wrote:
I am now 280, but also substantially ‘bigger’ in the good way.
[/quote]

WTF…Your penis got bigger??
You could sell your secret on the internet for millions. MILLIONS!

Or, I could be reading this the wrong way.

I need more conditioning. Much more.

474

If you give up I will too. Then we can both tank up to 300 lbs together.

475

Steve, never quit, never give up.

1s day, deads, TM 450. BW 240 lbs.

45 x10, 135 x10, 225 x5, 315 x5, 365 x3, 425 x5 (full reset each rep).

Stairs, sprint up, walk down, 15 flights.

Notes: My lower back was tweaky and I was in lot of discomfort today, and I almost skipped it. I probably should have. I really hurt now. At least I got the money set in and ran a few stairs.

476

[quote]PeteS wrote:
what’s up fatty?

Don’t think of it as a diet, think of it as a really shitty lifestyle change, one that means you are old, fat, mortal, and can’t just devour everything in sight. But it can be done with getting stronger. If you are smart, and you are smart.

I am at about the 95% level of ‘I only eat what I cook, and only eat what it going to lead to my goals’ level. OK, 85% if I am counting in the occasional adult beverage. Keeping carbs limited to brown rice, oatmeal, occasional and rare whole grain bread, and the rest fruits and veggies. 350 grams protein. Late night snack of natty peanut butter. And as you can see in my log a shit ton of boring cardio. On days when I lift late I rotate meals so it is carb/protein, fat+veggie/protein, fat+veggie/protein, carb/protein - train- carb/protein, fat+veggie/protein. If I lift earlier in the day, no carbs aside from pre, post, and post-post training. Weighed in at 298 back in October, I am now 280, but also substantially ‘bigger’ in the good way.

The trend with PL’ers is to not do low level cardio either. Fit some in. I still honestly believe that it really helps with nutrient partitioning. And recovery. [/quote]

I don’t know what this cardio thing is that you speak of. However, I’m on board with don’t eat what you don’t cook. Clearly this isn’t always possible but if you do it the majority of the time, it makes a substantial difference.

When BB and I moved in together he dropped weight and commented on how much I seem to eat. He had to up his volume to accomodate the change in eating habits. I don’t mean eating like rabbits; we have a freezer full of red meat and eat a fair amount of pasta with cream and bacon.

Jack, I don’t know what your diet is like because I generally skim over food related stuff because it bores me. However, if you are eating much pre-made food, get rid of it and it makes a big difference.

I’m also able to enjoy a nightly chocolate milk with bourbon accompanied by pistachios. It’s all about clean eating :slight_smile: Seriously.

btw, I really enjoyed your skiing video. It was awesome and looks like a ton of fun but kind of requiring coordination.

477

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
I generally skim over food related stuff because it bores me. [/quote]

Me too.

But I’ve really cleaned up my diet in the last week or so. Cut out sugar and most non-nutritive carbs. And I’m trying to eat more protein.

How do you guys know how many grams of protein you’re eating? Do you weigh stuff or what?

478

earth to Jack, Jack where are you?

479

You out there busting PR’s?

480

Pete, Joe, thanks for checking in on me. My training has been on hold for a few weeks. First, I really fucked up my back and could’t twist or even sit in a chair. Then I got double fucked by a really nasty case of the flu, and then work piled on top of me me while I was sick. I have been doing little rehab exercises and my back feels better now but I still feel pretty weak from the flu.

I will likely start back up again this weekend. The good news is my weight is down (233 this morning, down 15 lbs.) and my elbows and other joints don’t hurt any more.

I’ll probably start posting again this weekend as well and try and get caught up with everyone else then.

Jack