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My take on it is that the added layer of security makes for more work on the server end – so if we all browsed the site like that all the time, we could very well slow things down and create a pain in the ass for the guys who run the place.

I could be off base. If I’m not, it’s probably best to just use the extra security with PMs.

Some of our images are loaded with full URL’s in them, and that full URL doesn’t include the ‘s’, so annoying browsers like Microsoft Internet Explorer will complain. I recommend using Firefox ( http://www.getfirefox.com ). It’s a better browser in every way.

Even so, your data is still encrypted, so you could just ignore the warnings.

[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Yeah I agree…just posted that question…the thing is…as I’m on that “s” version of our site, I get an annoying pop up every time I do any function…stating “do you want to display the non-secure items, or do you NOT want to display the non-secure items…” etc…

                what's that all about it seems to do the same thing whether or not you hit either option...

            whatever the case, it beats having your pm's read by someone else..       T[/quote]

It really just uses more bandwidth. The extra load on the server to encrypt and decrypt is negligible. As your bandwidth is probably much more limited than ours, it really only slows you down.

[quote]Northcott wrote:
My take on it is that the added layer of security makes for more work on the server end – so if we all browsed the site like that all the time, we could very well slow things down and create a pain in the ass for the guys who run the place.

I could be off base. If I’m not, it’s probably best to just use the extra security with PMs.[/quote]

He’s saying that as long as you use the https: prefix, the text you view will be encrypted. Embedded photos may not be.

And I second his recommendation to use Firefox.

Jake

Yeah, the government needs a distraction while they destroy the USdollar and stage a war with Iran. I’m surprised they haven’t brought Anthrax back.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
T-Matt wrote:
Yeah, the government needs a distraction while they destroy the USdollar and stage a war with Iran. I’m surprised they haven’t brought Anthrax back.

See I don’t agree that it’s that conspiratorial. I believe that any government without super strict limits, like the one that our founding fathers THOUGHT they had created (ha!), will seek to justify itself by steadily increasing its role in its citizens’ lives.

If anything our government might be even MORE focused on strangling the lives of everyday Americans if it didn’t have a lot entanglements overseas.[/quote]

“The true object of propaganda is neither to convince nor even to persuade, but to produce a uniform pattern of public utterance in which the first trace of unorthodox thought immediately reveals itself as a jarring dissonance.” - Joseph Stalin

The Patriot Act was the beginning of the end of our freedoms. RFID chip is right around the corner. THe nuclear attack and subsequent retaliation that’s soon to happen will change the way we live.

We are in debt to our eyeballs. Any positive economic reports you see is due solely to the fact that The Fed has the printing presses at maximum capacity (this is the direct cause of inflation).

When China decides to dump most of their USdollar reserves ($1.2 trillion) for gold, many European nations will quickly follow, sending the value of the dollar spiriling into the gutter. It’s not a matter of if but when.

By the way, you don’t live under the same constitution the founding fathers created. It is NOT the same document you might think it is. The corporate constitution operates in an economic capacity and has been used to fool the People into thinking it is the same parchment that governs the Republic. It is all an illusion. You are governed by an independent corporation who owns you through your birth certificate and social security account.

But I’m just a conspiracist talking nonsense right?

What aggravates me is that if you read how and why steroids where banned in 90, its enough to piss anyone off. Congress tried to ban them in 88 but failed miserably after the DEA hired their own DR’s and scientists to run tests.

The DEA then reported that they should not be categorized as a controlled substance. The head of the DEA even said “if you want to ban something, ban cigarettes or ban alcohol they cause more harm to humans and children than anabolics do.”

Now this isn’t exactly how it happened step by step but its pretty damn close. I’ve been reading a lot about this and the more I read the more I question our government. I question more and more everyday while I sit here in Iraq awaiting my flight to finally leave this wretched place for the last time!

gee, i can remember when they first time they passed the patroit act, and members on here tried to justify it.saying “well we won’t loose too much freedom”. well to the great thinkers on here guess it’s biting you in the ass.

Maybe I’m asking for it getting in on this thread, but here are my thoughts from a different perspective.

 I spent over twenty years as a psychiatrist, and in the past decade, I spent more and more of my time and energy on adults "comitted" to psychiatric hospitals for doing things the government deems wrong-drinking too much, using drugs, etc. Most of the time these committments were either unnecessary or led to no genuine change in the mindset of these "patients."

If you want social change, including less government harassment with personal choices, the key to me is to be realistic about what is really dangerous. It IS dangerous for our children to be exposed to mind/body altering chemicals. 

I think our tax dollars and energy should be spent on giving our kids, teenagers included, a clean, fair start in life. I saw thousands of kids in these same psych hospitals getting messed up with every sort of chemical, steroids included.

Once you'ré an adult, if you have the right to smoke and drink excessively, two surefire paths to self-destruction, then you should have the right to do many 

other things our government deems “bad.”

Fight the hypocracy in our government, but don't forget the kids.           Doc 

Anybody have any updates if gasman was busted? Or has anyone been in contact with him since last week? I’m getting conflicting stories.

I THINK I saw his name on another forum. Damn, there are a shitload of peeps, more than one would think. As far as who is on the list, if you saw them somewhere on a forum such as this, as a domestic source, chances are they are scrrewed… All good things seem to come to a fucking end.

[quote]jwillow wrote:
He’s saying that as long as you use the https: prefix, the text you view will be encrypted. Embedded photos may not be.

And I second his recommendation to use Firefox.

Jake
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yeah, this is right

hey yall look at this . its just some thing i seen i though was intresting - YouTube - YouTube

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
Animals for sure, but more like eels. Here’s the slippery part: Anablic steroids are not illegal, therefore any attempts to legalize them will be in vain. Their use and distribution is tightly regulated, but not illegal.

De-regulation would be the key, and marijuana would be the model to follow.
Since marijuana has been designated as medicaly usefull and necessary for a very broad number of conditions its application has taken off.

It would be a good idea to broaden the base of anabolics necessity of use. Since ani-aging specailists have laid a good foundation of acceptable use, maybe broadening the definition of aging, or preventing the deleterious effects of aging would be a good route.

All of the information pertinent to this already exists. Now we would need it to be gathered and presented as a compelling arguement for de-regulation.

Public demand would also have to exist. Along the lines of "If people only knew what they were missing out on, ".
Anabolics need a new image. Not one of roid rage, pro wrestlers and bodybuilding freak shows. The average american needs to see it as a revitalizing quality of life enhancer, like Viagra, which believe it or not, Is a controlled substance too.

Just brain storming a bit.

Anybody else? [/quote]

Excellent post, man. And a very clear look at the issue, to boot, along with a very viable strategy. I’m only sorry that I didn’t see it right away – my thread suscription alert must have been eaten by the spam filter.

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
The sad part about this is that despite any amount of pressure from the public on lawmakers, nothing will change.

90% of the US population could write their congressmen tomorrow demanding legislation legalizing steroids, and they still wouldn’t take any action.

Steroids offer a plethora of health benefits that is cheap and easy to home brew… This would cause a myriad of problems for rx companies making ridiculous amounts money off the prescription frenzy.

So long as you’re a company with money to spare in DC, you can create a new drug, run a quick trial, then directly advertise to all of America in TV ads. Nevermind there’s little to no research on long term use on new fad prescrips, not necessary, the only important thing is the all mighty dollar.

What a fucking joke. [/quote]

Congressmen were “designed” to be a voice for the people. If they don’t do what we tell them to, then we are supposed to get them the hell out of office(Bill of rights was based on John Locke’s ideas).

I know the congressmen get big ad sponsers from the drug companies to support their interests. Maybe its about time we ban companies from offering ad money to candidates. Then again, they could always have employees do it :-S.

[quote]SeanT wrote:
Congressmen were “designed” to be a voice for the people. If they don’t do what we tell them to, then we are supposed to get them the hell out of office(Bill of rights was based on John Locke’s ideas).

I know the congressmen get big ad sponsers from the drug companies to support their interests. Maybe its about time we ban companies from offering ad money to candidates. Then again, they could always have employees do it :-S.[/quote]

Well, drug companies may welcome an approval of steroids. Think about the profits they could reap. They all have the means of doing it, they just aren’t allowed to by law. If the public’s eyes were opened to the truth, and enough support was gained, drug companies may in fact support it, of course only if it was approved. They wouldn’t put their names on the line before any approval was done.

[quote]Northcott wrote:
Just brain storming a bit.

Anybody else?

Excellent post, man. And a very clear look at the issue, to boot, along with a very viable strategy. I’m only sorry that I didn’t see it right away – my thread suscription alert must have been eaten by the spam filter.

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Thanks.

The door is open just a little bit right now. It needs to be nudged just a little more.

I know it would seem like blasphemy to some, but if people put down the black market gear and started storming the endos offices for TRT/HRT, it could make some very good waves.

Doc writes a script and patient fills it at the pharmacy. The Pharmacy needs to order and re-order to fill scripts. The suppliers see a good rise in sales of certain goods. This piques their interest in profit. They investigate to see what is causing this rise. Sales of anabolics! They respond to demand with supply. They respond to profit with agressive ad campaigns.

People see the wonder and joy of using anabolics in full color, on their boob tube, while watching prime time T.V. as a life enhancing solution to every problem they have, brought to them by the manufacturer. Drug reps get their marching orders to weyley doctors with samples of anabolics as handouts and to prescribe. Doctors see a profit incentive to prescribe this stuff like every other drug they have rammed down peoples throats in the past 10 years, and Voila! Legaly obtained, commonly prescribed anabolics!

It may not be that simple, but this shit has to start flowing up-hill, just not Capitol Hill. It has been very well known for about 10 years that drug companies have switched modes from finding cures to creating and selling drugs that can be prescribed for life. We need to take advantage of that by providing incentive for those companies to start providing what we want.

Then we will find a door that had previously be very tightly guarded busted wide open, with full page adds in the sunday press and prime time television spots telling us to Run, not walk, right through it.

The biggest problem with testosterone and other androgens is the lack of patent that brings in the big money. They have all been around too long for anyone to have proprietary rights, meaning the profit to any one company would be too small to spur legislative action.