US Users - Sucks To Be Us!

Found this on elitefitness.com- Not sure how old this info is or if it’s been posted before. Sorry if it’s already been posted!

My friend, famed steroid attorney Rick Collins sent me the following announcement to pass on to you. The U.S. Sentencing Commission has published notice of temporary “emergency” amendments to the federal anabolic steroid sentencing guidelines and thing just got a lot tougher for American juicers! A LOT TOUGHER!

03.27.06 - U.S. Anabolic Steroid Punishments Increased!
The U.S. Sentencing Commission has published notice of temporary “emergency” (i.e., immediate) amendments to the federal anabolic steroid sentencing guidelines. Henceforth, injectable and oral steroids will be quantified for punishment in a 1:1 ratio to other Schedule III drugs, resulting in a twenty-fold measurement increase for injectable steroid units and a fifty-fold increase for oral steroid units. Steroids in other forms (“e.g., patch, topical cream, aerosol”) will be reasonably estimated based on a consideration of 25mg as one unit.

Additionally, sentencing enhancements will apply in cases involving distribution to “athletes” or where coaches use their positions to influence athletes to use steroids, as well as in cases involving “masking agents.” While likely to impact dealers more than personal users, the new 1:1 ratio nonetheless ignores fundamental differences between steroid usage and volume patterns as compared to other Schedule III drugs.

Other potential problems with the amendments include the lack of any reference to potency in oral or injectable steroids, potentially leading to black market adaptations to circumvent the amendment (e.g., the creation of high potency “mega-pills”) as well as the lack of any knowledge requirement involving distribution (e.g., via the Internet) to unidentifiable customers who may turn out to be athletes.

It is expected that the revisions will be made permanent by Congress in November. [For further information, see the written testimony of Rick Collins to the Sentencing Commission, the transcript of his appearance before the Commission, the Report of the USSC Steroids Working Group, and the Commission’s Notice of Amendment to the guidelines.]

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Its pretty pathetic that this country cares more about performance enhancing drugs then about guys that rape little kids.

How many people have acutally been killed by AAS, few to none. Instead of worrying about meth and other drugs that kill SO many people everyday the government wants to blow steriod use out of preportion. how far do you have to have your head up your ass not to be able to see the facts. also, like fire said rapiest and child molesters get off scot free all the time, what the HELL,

Sorry for such a long rant but Damn

Every so often I think about moving to Europe, maybe Germany or the UK. I figure it would be too hard to make the transition, then something like this comes along and reminds me that it might be worth it.


I’d like to know who the malicious ignorant predjudiced asshole who came up with this is (how much you want to bet they are a lardass pencilneck looking to get a high powered job in washington D.C. by kissing ass with this publicity stunt?..

Turning thousands of peaceful citizens into criminals with a stroke of a pen, again? (Don’t ever forget the AMA and DEA were against banning roids’ to begin with!) That shit is NOT justice!..You know damn well it’s related to the Barry Bonds thing)…

The unfortunate truth is when kids turn to steroids, not having a clue what they are getting into. Uninformed, misuse and abuse leads to them to getting hurt - and the cases that make national media - when they kill themselves because of their lack of appropriate use and recovery. Their parents appear before the senate and congress lobbying for stiffer penalties and laws, thinking it will be the fix-all. The same with gun control regs, where the most affected are the law abiding people!

I myself, being an adult, had not a clue what a successful cycle would involve until joining this site.

Once again, as in most instances, one can thank a handful of misinformed, ignorant people for legislature that doesn’t make sense or fix a problem.

[quote]fiveoh01 wrote:
The unfortunate truth is when kids turn to steroids, not having a clue what they are getting into. Uninformed, misuse and abuse leads to them to getting hurt - and the cases that make national media - when they kill themselves because of their lack of appropriate use and recovery. Their parents appear before the senate and congress lobbying for stiffer penalties and laws, thinking it will be the fix-all. The same with gun control regs, where the most affected are the law abiding people!

I myself, being an adult, had not a clue what a successful cycle would involve until joining this site.

Once again, as in most instances, one can thank a handful of misinformed, ignorant people for legislature that doesn’t make sense or fix a problem.[/quote]

From the general reasoning concerning the kids, which is always what they fall back on, you’d think that tobacco and alcohol would be illegal by now. I’d imagine alcohol abuse is primarily by underage users–high school and early college. The funny thing is that AAS can be prescribed by doctors for legitimate reasons. You’ll never see tobacco or alcohol prescribed.

I’m not saying either of those should be banned, it’s just that for comparison it makes the legal issues of AAS seem ridiculous.

[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
Every so often I think about moving to Europe, maybe Germany or the UK. I figure it would be too hard to make the transition, then something like this comes along and reminds me that it might be worth it.[/quote]

Are you saying you would, in essence, move just for steroids?

and the exchange rate, maybe some for the history, add in hotter women

yup I would move, and I am! (T-minus 1yr)

[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:

From the general reasoning concerning the kids, which is always what they fall back on, you’d think that tobacco and alcohol would be illegal by now. I’d imagine alcohol abuse is primarily by underage users–high school and early college. The funny thing is that AAS can be prescribed by doctors for legitimate reasons. You’ll never see tobacco or alcohol prescribed.

I’m not saying either of those should be banned, it’s just that for comparison it makes the legal issues of AAS seem ridiculous.[/quote]

exactly.
Last year there was a crash a few towns over from me that killed 6 people. An underage kid came from a party where he had been drinking. He crossed into the other lane and hit another car head on. Killed him, his 3 friends in the car and the 2 people in the other car.
Now that sounds like a problem to me.
Some kid does a few weeks of dbol. That doesn’t seem like such a big problem.

[quote]firestanggt wrote:
Schwarzenegger wrote:

From the general reasoning concerning the kids, which is always what they fall back on, you’d think that tobacco and alcohol would be illegal by now. I’d imagine alcohol abuse is primarily by underage users–high school and early college. The funny thing is that AAS can be prescribed by doctors for legitimate reasons. You’ll never see tobacco or alcohol prescribed.

I’m not saying either of those should be banned, it’s just that for comparison it makes the legal issues of AAS seem ridiculous.

exactly.
Last year there was a crash a few towns over from me that killed 6 people. An underage kid came from a party where he had been drinking. He crossed into the other lane and hit another car head on. Killed him, his 3 friends in the car and the 2 people in the other car.
Now that sounds like a problem to me.
Some kid does a few weeks of dbol. That doesn’t seem like such a big problem.
[/quote]

I think the whole thing is you can’t judge how to treat something based on the actions of a few dumb people. That’s how we get so many restrictions in the US on everything; we base our judgments on a few select events. We have the bad habit of "well I know this happened to so and so, therefore it must happen to everyone that does ____ (fill in the blank)

Something has come to my mind recently, with the war in Iraq, the disapproval rating of both Busch and congress, ect. We as American citizens have the right to over throw the government and replace it with a new one when it no longer represents the people.

Well what’s the breaking point here and why can’t we elect to impeach the president or congress? Clearly this government no longer represents the people as the majority is dissatisfied with the government as a whole. (Not calling for a revolt just kicking their old white asses out of office and re-electing the whole lot of them!)

Hmm I suppose that rant belongs in the political section… sorry to get off topic.

[quote]firestanggt wrote:
Schwarzenegger wrote:

From the general reasoning concerning the kids, which is always what they fall back on, you’d think that tobacco and alcohol would be illegal by now. I’d imagine alcohol abuse is primarily by underage users–high school and early college. The funny thing is that AAS can be prescribed by doctors for legitimate reasons. You’ll never see tobacco or alcohol prescribed.

I’m not saying either of those should be banned, it’s just that for comparison it makes the legal issues of AAS seem ridiculous.

exactly.
Last year there was a crash a few towns over from me that killed 6 people. An underage kid came from a party where he had been drinking. He crossed into the other lane and hit another car head on. Killed him, his 3 friends in the car and the 2 people in the other car.
Now that sounds like a problem to me.
Some kid does a few weeks of dbol. That doesn’t seem like such a big problem.
[/quote]

In the past year, there have been three drunk driving accidents in my town (which has less than 1000 people in it) resulting in 6 casualties, not to mention all accidents by high school students (kids). That should be a larger priority.

Instead of banning the problem, why not try to educate on how to make it not a problem. Perhaps for new users there should be a manditory “steroid safety” course, where to use them legally you would need a license. This way there isnt as many idiots running around using orals and lessens the chances of any adverse problems that may occur from abusing.

Steroid rights movement anyone?

Just give it time to blow over. There are plenty of laws “on the books” that the Federal Government doesn’t enforce (immigration, etc.). It still depends on prosecutor case load, amount of controlled substance, prior criminal activity, etc.

They have much more to worry about than a little juice(meth,coke,X,etc.). This was simply a political/publicity stunt to show that the “fat cats” are doing something about steroid use in the U.S. after that dumbass wrestler killed his family. I would be more worried about specific State laws that are more often enforced.

If you are a personal user I doubt you have much to worry about. I you are a large supplier or distributor I would make sure you are taking the appropriate steps to insure safety.

[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
firestanggt wrote:
Schwarzenegger wrote:

Well what’s the breaking point here and why can’t we elect to impeach the president or congress? Clearly this government no longer represents the people as the majority is dissatisfied with the government as a whole. (Not calling for a revolt just kicking their old white asses out of office and re-electing the whole lot of them!)

[/quote]

Get together 100 dedicated individuals and it can be done. That breaking point is arriving soon, if you find 99 ill be the 100th.

From the general reasoning concerning the kids, which is always what they fall back on, you’d think that tobacco and alcohol would be illegal by now.

I’d imagine alcohol abuse is primarily by underage users–high school and early college. The funny thing is that AAS can be prescribed by doctors for legitimate reasons. You’ll never see tobacco or alcohol prescribed.

I’m not saying either of those should be banned, it’s just that for comparison it makes the legal issues of AAS seem ridiculous.[/quote]

Right on - I’m sure you recall alcohol once was prohibited, and of course that abolition was repealed. After all, you can’t have all your politician’s getting arrested. So get your local legislators pumping iron with the great gains of responsible anabolics, and we’ll get some laws changed!! Hmmm, now to find one with a liver in working order…

[quote]Schwarzenegger wrote:
fiveoh01 wrote:
The unfortunate truth is when kids turn to steroids, not having a clue what they are getting into. Uninformed, misuse and abuse leads to them to getting hurt - and the cases that make national media - when they kill themselves because of their lack of appropriate use and recovery. Their parents appear before the senate and congress lobbying for stiffer penalties and laws, thinking it will be the fix-all. The same with gun control regs, where the most affected are the law abiding people!

I myself, being an adult, had not a clue what a successful cycle would involve until joining this site.

Once again, as in most instances, one can thank a handful of misinformed, ignorant people for legislature that doesn’t make sense or fix a problem.

From the general reasoning concerning the kids, which is always what they fall back on, you’d think that tobacco and alcohol would be illegal by now. I’d imagine alcohol abuse is primarily by underage users–high school and early college. The funny thing is that AAS can be prescribed by doctors for legitimate reasons. You’ll never see tobacco or alcohol prescribed.

I’m not saying either of those should be banned, it’s just that for comparison it makes the legal issues of AAS seem ridiculous.[/quote]

It’s just another transparent attempt by capitol hill to divert attention away from the fact that they don’t do nearly as much as they say they were going to do. What American uninformed about AAS is going to argue with saving the children and fair play? None, it makes Congress look united at least one topic, that spans party lines.

Never mind that we are at war in 2 nations no less, that China has threatened to destroy the US dollar, that Russia has staked claim to the north pole, or any of the other myriad of issues that could plummet the world into another globe spanning war.

No it’s much more important that a bunch of non-athletes look down their noses at AAS users and scold them for being cheaters, and for destroying young athletes, because maybe just maybe had these same non-athletes “cheated” also they would have been great athletes. Well it’s utter nonsense.

The idea that AAS users are cheaters when they want to train above and beyond their own bodies recover capabilities when the average American can’t even be bothered to go to the gym once in their life strikes me as odd. Work hard but don’t work too hard cause you will make the lazy look bad is what it feels like to me.

Hey Five, all of them could use some HRT!! Then maybe they wouldn’t be such pansies about not passing laws they should and maybe act like they have a spine!

American’s tend to be fat, lazy, and have no self-control… So the folks that go to the gym, work hard, and want to enhance their physical and mental being are outcasts and freaks. Go figure… I’ll take two double bacon cheesburgers, biggie fries, and a DIET COKE cause i’m working on my figure!!!

[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
Hey Five, all of them could use some HRT!! Then maybe they wouldn’t be such pansies about not passing laws they should and maybe act like they have a spine![/quote]

Or - during HRT, they find the benefit is so great, they keep it illegal in order to keep it for themselves! Bastards!!

Haha I could see them doing that!! Man that wuold bring about a whole new scandel of kick backs from the pharm companies! Damn I would totally do that if I worked on captial hill. “Huh you want the FDA to approve that drug? OK but it will cost you some test and Dbol”