[quote]EastCoaster wrote:
Does anyone know the specific UG labs that got busted? If you don’t want to post them on here in the open. PM me please. [/quote]
There were something like a 124 of them, I doubt you will find a comprehensive list. Just know that many of the biggest and best are gone.
When did all this go down? I haven’t been online in a week or so. This sucks.
[quote]firestanggt wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
We can blow off steam forever, but there’s work to be done if we want to change the law.
Not to be negative but the odds of that happening are about as good as my odds of getting to bang Jessica Simpson.
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Good news, my friend.
With as much as she’s been putting out lately, it shouldn’t be any harder than melting butter.
[quote]GluteActivation wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
I’m really surprised there is no organization working to get steroids legalized.
I may just start one.
It’ll be hard. One important thing you have to think about while pushing for legalization is what to do with people who are currently serving time for violating the act. Do you just let them out and say “oh, we’ve changed our mind - you’re no longer a criminal”? It’s a tough call.
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didn’t we do that during prohibition???
[quote]Contrl wrote:
Good news, my friend.
With as much as she’s been putting out lately, it shouldn’t be any harder than melting butter.
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Heh!
As for the difficulty of changing the law: who said it would be easy? And when has anything worthwhile ever been easy? Damn, man. If lifting weights has taught any of us anything, it should be that.
It only takes one successful legal challenge. I know your Declaration of Independence has mention of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” – but what rights does your constitution enshrine? Is there grounds to challenge the laws in higher courts based on the government enforcing policies that could detrimentally affect your health?
If so – with the body of evidence displaying the advantages of responsible steroid use and the decline in natural testosterone levels in North American males over the last 50 years – there might be grounds to challenge.
There was a link earlier in this thread to a news story that took a look at the positive effects of steroids and poked holes in the notion of how harmful they are. Obviously somebody in the media is willing to listen.
Who’d have thought the “save the whales” campaign would have the wheels that it did? With the number of libertarians, pro-legalization organizations, and steroid-curious athletes out there, is there really any doubt that a sufficiently organized person couldn’t mobilize a campaign to re-legalize steroids?
Politicians are Pavlovian animals. You just need to ring the voter bell.
[quote]stumpy wrote:
When did all this go down? I haven’t been online in a week or so. This sucks.[/quote]
Monday (24 Sep). It was all over the regular news; here’s a link to one article.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Northcott wrote:
Contrl wrote:
Good news, my friend.
With as much as she’s been putting out lately, it shouldn’t be any harder than melting butter.
Heh!
As for the difficulty of changing the law: who said it would be easy? And when has anything worthwhile ever been easy? Damn, man. If lifting weights has taught any of us anything, it should be that.
It only takes one successful legal challenge. I know your Declaration of Independence has mention of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” – but what rights does your constitution enshrine? Is there grounds to challenge the laws in higher courts based on the government enforcing policies that could detrimentally affect your health?
If so – with the body of evidence displaying the advantages of responsible steroid use and the decline in natural testosterone levels in North American males over the last 50 years – there might be grounds to challenge.
There was a link earlier in this thread to a news story that took a look at the positive effects of steroids and poked holes in the notion of how harmful they are. Obviously somebody in the media is willing to listen.
Who’d have thought the “save the whales” campaign would have the wheels that it did? With the number of libertarians, pro-legalization organizations, and steroid-curious athletes out there, is there really any doubt that a sufficiently organized person couldn’t mobilize a campaign to re-legalize steroids?
Politicians are Pavlovian animals. You just need to ring the voter bell.
Good post.
It’s been said on this site and many other venues and I have repeated it often myself - “Those that would give up freedom in exchange for safety deserve neither”. Ben Franklin
This is just another arena where “safety” trumps freedom in the minds of the modern day Safety Nazi.
Leviathan just grows and grows and grows. As it gets larger it must consume more. As is consumes more it gets larger.
If you’re pro gun control then keep your mouth shut when it comes to the topic of this thread.
If you’re pro tax-everything-in-site you don’t agree with then keep your mouth shut when it comes to the topic of this thread.
If you’re pro seat belt law then keep your mouth shut when it comes to the topic of this thread.
If you’re pro cradle-to-grave government then keep your motherfuckin’ mouth shut when it comes to the topic of this thread.
The list goes on and on and on…[/quote]
Here here!
[quote]EastCoaster wrote:
Does anyone know the specific UG labs that got busted? If you don’t want to post them on here in the open. PM me please. [/quote]
Why not post them if they have been busted? The feds already know.
[quote]Northcott wrote:
As for the difficulty of changing the law: who said it would be easy? And when has anything worthwhile ever been easy? Damn, man. If lifting weights has taught any of us anything, it should be that.
It only takes one successful legal challenge. I know your Declaration of Independence has mention of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” – but what rights does your constitution enshrine? Is there grounds to challenge the laws in higher courts based on the government enforcing policies that could detrimentally affect your health?
If so – with the body of evidence displaying the advantages of responsible steroid use and the decline in natural testosterone levels in North American males over the last 50 years – there might be grounds to challenge.
There was a link earlier in this thread to a news story that took a look at the positive effects of steroids and poked holes in the notion of how harmful they are. Obviously somebody in the media is willing to listen.
Who’d have thought the “save the whales” campaign would have the wheels that it did? With the number of libertarians, pro-legalization organizations, and steroid-curious athletes out there, is there really any doubt that a sufficiently organized person couldn’t mobilize a campaign to re-legalize steroids?
Politicians are Pavlovian animals. You just need to ring the voter bell.
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Animals for sure, but more like eels. Here’s the slippery part: Anablic steroids are not illegal, therefore any attempts to legalize them will be in vain. Their use and distribution is tightly regulated, but not illegal.
De-regulation would be the key, and marijuana would be the model to follow.
Since marijuana has been designated as medicaly usefull and necessary for a very broad number of conditions its application has taken off.
It would be a good idea to broaden the base of anabolics necessity of use. Since ani-aging specailists have laid a good foundation of acceptable use, maybe broadening the definition of aging, or preventing the deleterious effects of aging would be a good route.
All of the information pertinent to this already exists. Now we would need it to be gathered and presented as a compelling arguement for de-regulation.
Public demand would also have to exist. Along the lines of "If people only knew what they were missing out on, ".
Anabolics need a new image. Not one of roid rage, pro wrestlers and bodybuilding freak shows. The average american needs to see it as a revitalizing quality of life enhancer, like Viagra, which believe it or not, Is a controlled substance too.
Just brain storming a bit.
Anybody else?
[quote]SkyzykS wrote:
De-regulation would be the key, and marijuana would be the model to follow.
Since marijuana has been designated as medicaly usefull and necessary for a very broad number of conditions its application has taken off.
It would be a good idea to broaden the base of anabolics necessity of use. Since ani-aging specailists have laid a good foundation of acceptable use, maybe broadening the definition of aging, or preventing the deleterious effects of aging would be a good route.
All of the information pertinent to this already exists. Now we would need it to be gathered and presented as a compelling arguement for de-regulation.
Public demand would also have to exist. Along the lines of "If people only knew what they were missing out on, ".
Anabolics need a new image. Not one of roid rage, pro wrestlers and bodybuilding freak shows. The average american needs to see it as a revitalizing quality of life enhancer, like Viagra, which believe it or not, Is a controlled substance too.
Just brain storming a bit.
Anybody else?
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You are on target. Precisely.
AAS need to be assigned to a broader “medical use”, including quality of life issues. And not just for older people, but perhaps cops, firefighters, or other job performance issues. This could be legally extrapolated into personal use.
The anti-aging community is already pushing for this. The aging baby boomers (myself included) are the largest voting bloc in the US.
But these things DO take time and effort. Hope comes in small increments. I’ve been working to legalize marijuana and free all non-violent drug prisoners since 1972. I am on several FBI lists, and have been taken into custody on two occasions, but no trial and no prison time…yet.
As said above, nothing good comes easy. But we all lift, and we already know that. This is really a good fight. Don’t give it up.
please tell me that API is still up and running
[quote]jb99 wrote:
please tell me that API is still up and running[/quote]
Ummm…sorry bro, there gone
From what I have seen/heard, it looks like API was among the victims.
Genera Pharms
huma labs
API
the professor
Vizion Pharms
rugio
Genescience
Pro Pharm
Osoca
Bodyz
SIUG
Leo
Titan supply
anabolic-superstore
Southern Labs
spyder
AML
Rugio
PowerLine
US Pharma
usp pharma
Tweak
aka pitbull
gym ace aka Supersteroid Board
GALABS
SAMAR
BTLabs
savannah
(promethus)
GasMAN
Joe Gold
Couture
Gymvet
Gavin Kane
Mamta
Anabolic-superstore
Titan Med Supply
Bodyz by Desgin
SAVANAH
vision aka phoenix pharm
GYMVet
RLS
Propeptides
I’m pretty sure I have seen a bigger list than this, but alot of them are coming down for whatever reason. It’s not like you could order through any of these regardless?
Monopoly
Anyone remember the “missile gap” in the late 1950s? I’m sure we can find some evidence that al-Qaeda is using AAS.
If we don’t use AAS, the terrorists will win. Say it with me.
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Jake
I really don’t understand why our tax dollars fund this kind of crap. If someone wants to take steroids, let them. No one is out on the street selling handjobs to support their steroid habit. It doesn’t make someone a danger to society. Such a stupid way to spend our tax dollars.
[quote]ryanjm wrote:
I really don’t understand why our tax dollars fund this kind of crap. If someone wants to take steroids, let them. No one is out on the street selling handjobs to support their steroid habit. It doesn’t make someone a danger to society. Such a stupid way to spend our tax dollars.[/quote]
Speak for yourself, " 250ml make me so horny, me love you long time"