How long until the Taliban or some such starts planting Anadrol seeds instead of opium… hopefully this blows over after Beijing. Now you all know how an Aussie feels.
[quote]conceit13 wrote:
i will begin a new thread as my findings for what we can do to fight this. it may be a while, as i want to be thorough and accurate. but we will fight this and we will be successful.[/quote]
Didn’t anyone read my post? Jeezus, no one listens to Momma.
You can email the contact in my first link if you want to fight the power.
[quote]huz wrote:
How long until the Taliban or some such starts planting Anadrol seeds instead of opium… hopefully this blows over after Beijing. Now you all know how an Aussie feels.[/quote]
Funny, but some good things don’t grow on trees.
In case anyone has missed what’s going on, this is bad. 44 major domestic sources have been popped, including the biggest ones that I know of. If you had placed orders through any of these guys, you may want to have someone else hold your shit for a while.
I personally doubt they will go after the end user, as one of the labs alone had a client list of over 14,000. However, the feds seem to have a hard on for this shit right now, so you never know.
I am in the process of getting a script for test, and am beyond thankfull I found a doc that was willing to work with me.
On the flip side, I no longer have any contacts and have to start all over. This sucks moose cock.
Monopoly
You have to wonder if they kept the sites up and running to intercept any new orders. Instead of a letter you get a Man in Blue at your door with hand cuffs.
Good sources will be hard to come by. Unless you know someone.
Unfortunately, there is almost now impossible to have a rational discussion about this with most. I tell my patients that the side effects and such are often exaggerated, but that’s a small scale thing.
Steroid use to an average joe is somewhere between molesting kids and taking crack. If i told the average person on the street I wise a recovering addict i would get more sympathy than a steroid user would.
There is some hope medically with hormone replacement once the powers that be see the market for it, ie money. I personally find it ironic that people can get big ole boobies, lengthen their willies, suck out fat or get a face lift, but someone can’t get a 300-500 pound bench if they want the risk.
But that’s the way it is.
[quote]dirtbag wrote:
You have to wonder if they kept the sites up and running to intercept any new orders. Instead of a letter you get a Man in Blue at your door with hand cuffs.
Good sources will be hard to come by. Unless you know someone.[/quote]
Sounds like the feds took over some operations and continued running them as though nothing happened. I had been in touch with someone, but thankfully nothing transpired.
Monopoly
[quote]tom63 wrote:
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Steroid use to an average joe is somewhere between molesting kids and taking crack. …
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I like to molest crack.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
Didn’t anyone read my post? Jeezus, no one listens to Momma.
You can email the contact in my first link if you want to fight the power.[/quote]
I’m listening, Mom – I’m just in another country. 
It did, however, get me to look up the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, wondering if there’s wiggle room in there for a legal hotshot to point at this legal practice as being a violation. I think it would take one Hell of a lawyer, both in terms of skill and guts, to carry this this task.
Hey folks, I’m personally responsible for maintaining the security of all our information resources here at Biotest. I’ve been security conscious (paranoid) since before I can remember dialing into BBS’s in the early 90’s.
I assure you that our servers are protected by the best possible security. Our firewalls are rock solid. I take any attempts at compromising our security very seriously, and execute all possible actions to dissuade further mischief.
That said, your data on our servers is as private as possible. It is, however, unencrypted when you read it.
When you view a PM, because our site is unencrypted, anyone who has access to the lines between you and our datacenter (which is in Virginia, and fully under US authority) could potentially view that same information. The number of people we’re talking about is very low, but with FBI projects like Carnivore out there, it is possible that some automated system is watching what you say. The only way to protect you against this is if we used SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) all the time, but that would drastically slow down your experience of the site.
If you are concerned about your privacy, we do offer a SSL encrypted view of the site: just go to https://www.t-nation.com . SSL is a very strong encryption protocol and takes a great deal of time and computing power to circumvent. Our cert isn’t up to date on that url, so go ahead an accept it if you get a popup. Your data is still fully encrypted.
Again, I assure you we care very much about your privacy and do all that we can to ensure it. Using the SSL encrypted site for sensitive data will help you protect your data as well.
I hope this helps, if you have any questions about this all, I’m happy to help.
[quote]Northcott wrote:
Yo Momma wrote:
Didn’t anyone read my post? Jeezus, no one listens to Momma.
You can email the contact in my first link if you want to fight the power.
I’m listening, Mom – I’m just in another country.
It did, however, get me to look up the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, wondering if there’s wiggle room in there for a legal hotshot to point at this legal practice as being a violation. I think it would take one Hell of a lawyer, both in terms of skill and guts, to carry this this task.
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You’re a good boy.
We can blow off steam forever, but there’s work to be done if we want to change the law.
[quote]Josh wrote:
Hey folks, I’m personally responsible for maintaining the security of all our information resources here at Biotest. I’ve been security conscious (paranoid) since before I can remember dialing into BBS’s in the early 90’s.
I assure you that our servers are protected by the best possible security. Our firewalls are rock solid. I take any attempts at compromising our security very seriously, and execute all possible actions to dissuade further mischief.
That said, your data on our servers is as private as possible. It is, however, unencrypted when you read it.
When you view a PM, because our site is unencrypted, anyone who has access to the lines between you and our datacenter (which is in Virginia, and fully under US authority) could potentially view that same information. The number of people we’re talking about is very low, but with FBI projects like Carnivore out there, it is possible that some automated system is watching what you say. The only way to protect you against this is if we used SSL (Secure Sockets Layer) all the time, but that would drastically slow down your experience of the site.
If you are concerned about your privacy, we do offer a SSL encrypted view of the site: just go to https://www.T-Nation.com . SSL is a very strong encryption protocol and takes a great deal of time and computing power to circumvent. Our cert isn’t up to date on that url, so go ahead an accept it if you get a popup. Your data is still fully encrypted.
Again, I assure you we care very much about your privacy and do all that we can to ensure it. Using the SSL encrypted site for sensitive data will help you protect your data as well.
I hope this helps, if you have any questions about this all, I’m happy to help.[/quote]
That is excellent, I’ll be browsing in SSL now just because I can.
I noticed they went after IGF also. Is IGF a controlled substance like AAS??
[quote]DMMOAB wrote:
I noticed they went after IGF also. Is IGF a controlled substance like AAS??[/quote]
They didn’t go after IGF - they just found it in the raids. None of the indictments mentions anything about IGF - only AAS and hgh.
From what I’ve heard, the guy busted who owned Research Lab Supply was eventually released because they didn’t have anything on him and his PCs were returned… He apparently had a good lawyer too though. This is just what I’ve heard from an owner of multiple boards.
Everyone needs to go to an anti aging doc.
[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
We can blow off steam forever, but there’s work to be done if we want to change the law.
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Not to be negative but the odds of that happening are about as good as my odds of getting to bang Jessica Simpson.
99.999% of all people believe that shit that media constantly spews out about the negative effects of steroid use. No politicians or lawmakers would ever go along with it because it would be political suicide.
Don’t get me wrong, i’m all for whatever ideas anyone has to fight this and will do all I can to help, I just don’t ever see it happening.
Does anyone know the specific UG labs that got busted? If you don’t want to post them on here in the open. PM me please.
[quote]EastCoaster wrote:
Does anyone know the specific UG labs that got busted? If you don’t want to post them on here in the open. PM me please. [/quote]
X2
I know of one, but please pass the 411 if you can.