I call shenanigans. Look at the file name of the avatar.
Big dude?
[quote]adamisabeast wrote:
i only went on here to ask advice
and i didnt know he had this on here
and he does have some definition
no homo
ill be back later to see what you people have to say
im going to the gym and im going to do barbell rows with 5x your weight
and bonez, for as much shit as you talk
your not big at all you look like you havent even lifted before
my little sister is bigger than you, you have a little lat width and thats it from a bodybuilding standpoint i rate you a 1[/quote]
Keep pretending you are natural even though you are taking a designer steroid.
Do you actually think I give a shit about the words that come out of your ignorant mouth?
(Since you probably read at a 4th grade level I guess I have to mention that that was a rhetorical question)
Some basic facts:
If you gain 1 lb of lean mass for every 1 lb of bodyfat you will become leaner.
If you gain significantly more lean mass than bodyfat you will be much leaner.
If your bodyfat % goes up 30%, you gained AT LEAST 30% more bodyfat.(though the actual BF% number doesn’t matter much)
Observations:
You don’t look leaner.
You say you’ve gained 3-4% bodyfat(up from 12)
You say you’ve gained 45 lbs.
Conclusion:
You gained mostly bodyfat.
You gained at least 30% more bodyfat than lean mass.
You gained at most 20 lbs of lean mass and at least 25 lbs of bodyfat.
Other impressions:
Some of your lean mass gains were probably water weight, so
you probably gained 10-15 lbs of “dry” muscle mass in ~25 weeks time.
In my opinion, this is near optimal in terms of muscle gain.
Could you have accomplished this with less bodyfat gain?
Probably.
Will you spend more time trying to retain mass while leaning down latter?
Probably.
Did you fail? Definitely not.
Suggestions:
You should slow down your weight gain by adding additional activity(cardio, walks, etc…) and once you’ve hit a wall with the time you have to train, you should draw down your calories and lean down through diet.
How long before you “Diet down” is going to be entirely dependent on you efforts to slow fat gains(if you decide to do so).
Good job and Good luck.
bonez
i was natural 4 days ago you act like ive taken steroids since i started
now im not technically natural
even when i was, i was still bigger than you will ever dream of being
and bigger than more than 99% of the people on this site no offense to this site
this site is a bunch of bull from what i have seen and you should
get up to 20 inches on your arms and over a 60 inch chest cut and 30 inch quads if you know everything
then
come back to me and i will respect you and i wont talk no more shit or anything about you otherwise NO bodybuilders will give a rats ass about you if you actually think your huge or going to get far in this shit and
i dont have smarts about anything besides this lifting
this is my occupation i do this for a living and i do it pretty damn good at it and
i dont know shit about steroids because i have never taken it before
im only doing the chloro since it wont show up on tests and its not illegal plus as far as my genetics will let me
not many people reach that far but i have
just to let you know
[quote]adamisabeast wrote:
bonez
i was natural 4 days ago you act like ive taken steroids since i started
now im not technically natural
even when i was, i was still bigger than you will ever dream of being
and bigger than more than 99% of the people on this site no offense to this site
this site is a bunch of bull from what i have seen and you should
get up to 20 inches on your arms and over a 60 inch chest cut and 30 inch quads if you know everything
then
come back to me and i will respect you and i wont talk no more shit or anything about you otherwise NO bodybuilders will give a rats ass about you if you actually think your huge or going to get far in this shit and
i dont have smarts about anything besides this lifting
this is my occupation i do this for a living and i do it pretty damn good at it and
i dont know shit about steroids because i have never taken it before
im only doing the chloro since it wont show up on tests and its not illegal plus as far as my genetics will let me
not many people reach that far but i have
just to let you know
[/quote]
You fail at bullying. No one thinks your tough.
You fail at bragging. No one cares about your arms.
You fail at justifying your decisions. No one cares about your life story.
You fail at communicating. Learn some damn grammar.
You fail at trolling. No one believes that pic is actually you.
You fail at training ghettocandyman. He is fat.
You fail at doing steroids properly. Since you’ve been such an anus, the knowledgeable people here won’t be compelled to help you.
You fail at pretending to not be insecure. Everyone sees right through you.
Fortunately it’s only a matter of time before you stop coming to this site and fade into oblivion. Even though your posts are entertaining because your a complete and total fucking moron and you say epically stupid shit, I will not miss you when your gone.
I hope you drop a barbell on your face.
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
Some basic facts:
If you gain 1 lb of lean mass for every 1 lb of bodyfat you will become leaner.
If you gain significantly more lean mass than bodyfat you will be much leaner.
If your bodyfat % goes up 30%, you gained AT LEAST 30% more bodyfat.(though the actual BF% number doesn’t matter much)
Observations:
You don’t look leaner.
You say you’ve gained 3-4% bodyfat(up from 12)
You say you’ve gained 45 lbs.
Conclusion:
You gained mostly bodyfat.
You gained at least 30% more bodyfat than lean mass.
You gained at most 20 lbs of lean mass and at least 25 lbs of bodyfat.
Other impressions:
Some of your lean mass gains were probably water weight, so
you probably gained 10-15 lbs of “dry” muscle mass in ~25 weeks time.
In my opinion, this is near optimal in terms of muscle gain.
Could you have accomplished this with less bodyfat gain?
Probably.
Will you spend more time trying to retain mass while leaning down latter?
Probably.
Did you fail? Definitely not.
Suggestions:
You should slow down your weight gain by adding additional activity(cardio, walks, etc…) and once you’ve hit a wall with the time you have to train, you should draw down your calories and lean down through diet.
How long before you “Diet down” is going to be entirely dependent on you efforts to slow fat gains(if you decide to do so).
Good job and Good luck.
[/quote]
I see math is not your strong suit. If you gain 1 pound of muscle and 1 pound of fat, you increase your BF% unless you are already over 50% bf.
[quote]dwall33 wrote:
TooHuman wrote:
Some basic facts:
If you gain 1 lb of lean mass for every 1 lb of bodyfat you will become leaner.
If you gain significantly more lean mass than bodyfat you will be much leaner.
If your bodyfat % goes up 30%, you gained AT LEAST 30% more bodyfat.(though the actual BF% number doesn’t matter much)
Observations:
You don’t look leaner.
You say you’ve gained 3-4% bodyfat(up from 12)
You say you’ve gained 45 lbs.
Conclusion:
You gained mostly bodyfat.
You gained at least 30% more bodyfat than lean mass.
You gained at most 20 lbs of lean mass and at least 25 lbs of bodyfat.
Other impressions:
Some of your lean mass gains were probably water weight, so
you probably gained 10-15 lbs of “dry” muscle mass in ~25 weeks time.
In my opinion, this is near optimal in terms of muscle gain.
Could you have accomplished this with less bodyfat gain?
Probably.
Will you spend more time trying to retain mass while leaning down latter?
Probably.
Did you fail? Definitely not.
Suggestions:
You should slow down your weight gain by adding additional activity(cardio, walks, etc…) and once you’ve hit a wall with the time you have to train, you should draw down your calories and lean down through diet.
How long before you “Diet down” is going to be entirely dependent on you efforts to slow fat gains(if you decide to do so).
Good job and Good luck.
I see math is not your strong suit. If you gain 1 pound of muscle and 1 pound of fat, you increase your BF% unless you are already over 50% bf.[/quote]
If you gain fat and muscle at the same rate, your BF% doesn’t change at all. I see you fail at math too.
[quote]adamisabeast wrote:
bonez
i was natural 4 days ago you act like ive taken steroids since i started
now im not technically natural
even when i was, i was still bigger than you will ever dream of being
and bigger than more than 99% of the people on this site no offense to this site
this site is a bunch of bull from what i have seen and you should
get up to 20 inches on your arms and over a 60 inch chest cut and 30 inch quads if you know everything
then
come back to me and i will respect you and i wont talk no more shit or anything about you otherwise NO bodybuilders will give a rats ass about you if you actually think your huge or going to get far in this shit and
i dont have smarts about anything besides this lifting
this is my occupation i do this for a living and i do it pretty damn good at it and
i dont know shit about steroids because i have never taken it before
im only doing the chloro since it wont show up on tests and its not illegal plus as far as my genetics will let me
not many people reach that far but i have
just to let you know
[/quote]
I’m not going to respond to you until you prove that you are a real person.
Take a picture of yourself holding a sign that says T-Nation and adamisabeast (lol). You can even have your chubby friend make the sign if you cant spell the words properly.
[quote]Makavali wrote:
dwall33 wrote:
TooHuman wrote:
Some basic facts:
If you gain 1 lb of lean mass for every 1 lb of bodyfat you will become leaner.
If you gain significantly more lean mass than bodyfat you will be much leaner.
If your bodyfat % goes up 30%, you gained AT LEAST 30% more bodyfat.(though the actual BF% number doesn’t matter much)
Observations:
You don’t look leaner.
You say you’ve gained 3-4% bodyfat(up from 12)
You say you’ve gained 45 lbs.
Conclusion:
You gained mostly bodyfat.
You gained at least 30% more bodyfat than lean mass.
You gained at most 20 lbs of lean mass and at least 25 lbs of bodyfat.
Other impressions:
Some of your lean mass gains were probably water weight, so
you probably gained 10-15 lbs of “dry” muscle mass in ~25 weeks time.
In my opinion, this is near optimal in terms of muscle gain.
Could you have accomplished this with less bodyfat gain?
Probably.
Will you spend more time trying to retain mass while leaning down latter?
Probably.
Did you fail? Definitely not.
Suggestions:
You should slow down your weight gain by adding additional activity(cardio, walks, etc…) and once you’ve hit a wall with the time you have to train, you should draw down your calories and lean down through diet.
How long before you “Diet down” is going to be entirely dependent on you efforts to slow fat gains(if you decide to do so).
Good job and Good luck.
I see math is not your strong suit. If you gain 1 pound of muscle and 1 pound of fat, you increase your BF% unless you are already over 50% bf.
If you gain fat and muscle at the same rate, your BF% doesn’t change at all. I see you fail at math too.[/quote]
Wrong. If you weigh 180 at 20% bf and you gain 20 lbs, 10 of them are fat, 10 of them muscle. You started out with 36lbs of fat(20% of 180), you now have 46lbs of fat, but you weigh 200lbs. 46/200>36/180, so you increased your BF%.
[quote]dwall33 wrote:
Wrong. If you weigh 180 at 20% bf and you gain 20 lbs, 10 of them are fat, 10 of them muscle. You started out with 36lbs of fat(20% of 180), you now have 46lbs of fat, but you weigh 200lbs. 46/200>36/180, so you increased your BF%.[/quote]
Word. I see sleep deprivation isn’t doing me any favors.
wait dwall… so your saying my bodyfat has went up 25 pounds…
that doesnt make any sense. that means i have 43 pounds of fat and its over 20 percent…i started with 18 pounds of fat…if i still have strides in my shoulders and you can see stuff in my back and i usually have veins coming out of my traps…and sometimes my delts going down my arms
i definetly do not have over 20% as you would not see any vascularity of any kind not even in my forearms
which i have… ive been at 26% or more the last time i weighed 175…no vascularity huge nipples that weird fat shit that i dont really have…the
water test thing said i have 16% im going with that since its supposably very accurate… i know its not over 20 or 18%
all the fat likes my chest and stomach so i look obese in pictures, cant change the fact all the fat goes in one place its genetics…but anyways
wth are you on buddy lol
and adam is a real guy in chicago illinois…i dont even know why dudes on here tell you the truth
and i dont get how anyone has failed to train me…just read that…he really hasnt…but anyways…ive gotten fat, but who the hell cares. everyone who actually bulks up gets fat
idc who you are…
ive gotten a hell of alot bigger…shoulders from 45-53…my arms will be around 15-15.5 cut…there 16.5 right now
i started with 13 or 12.5 not cut still flab on them…and im closing in on deadlifting 500 pounds…i did 485x2 today…a few weeks ago i did 420 or 430 x1 idr…ive more than doubled my deads in 4 months naturally
i dont get how thats bad progress in size or anything… squats to
i did 345 for reps 2 days ago, when i couldnt even get 185x2 in august…
when i havent seen people do that…or deadlift 500 pounds that have been deadlifting 4 months…or even a year…i dunno
i only know this dude from my brother… who gave up this shit he stopped cuz he wasnt getting bigger
i dont know the point of that at all…but whatever…also so he could train people i got pictures of him…not adam…
he looks fat, but hes strong as fuck i saw him bench 555 when he hasnt worked out in like 7 months…idfk wth he did b4 that…
itd be really fucked up if i got 600 on deads by february or january…not braggin
or lyin
this shit is actually true
even though you cant tell anything on the internet
when i cut in march imma come back
and post that shit and be like HA MOTHER FUCKERS wtf now
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
adamisabeast wrote:
bonez
i was natural 4 days ago you act like ive taken steroids since i started
now im not technically natural
even when i was, i was still bigger than you will ever dream of being
and bigger than more than 99% of the people on this site no offense to this site
this site is a bunch of bull from what i have seen and you should
get up to 20 inches on your arms and over a 60 inch chest cut and 30 inch quads if you know everything
then
come back to me and i will respect you and i wont talk no more shit or anything about you otherwise NO bodybuilders will give a rats ass about you if you actually think your huge or going to get far in this shit and
i dont have smarts about anything besides this lifting
this is my occupation i do this for a living and i do it pretty damn good at it and
i dont know shit about steroids because i have never taken it before
im only doing the chloro since it wont show up on tests and its not illegal plus as far as my genetics will let me
not many people reach that far but i have
just to let you know
I’m not going to respond to you until you prove that you are a real person.
Take a picture of yourself holding a sign that says T-Nation and adamisabeast (lol). You can even have your chubby friend make the sign if you cant spell the words properly. [/quote]
THE CHALLENGE
edit:
-and yes, this is all i have to contribute to this failure of a thread.
[quote]dwall33 wrote:
Makavali wrote:
dwall33 wrote:
TooHuman wrote:
Some basic facts:
If you gain 1 lb of lean mass for every 1 lb of bodyfat you will become leaner.
If you gain significantly more lean mass than bodyfat you will be much leaner.
If your bodyfat % goes up 30%, you gained AT LEAST 30% more bodyfat.(though the actual BF% number doesn’t matter much)
Observations:
You don’t look leaner.
You say you’ve gained 3-4% bodyfat(up from 12)
You say you’ve gained 45 lbs.
Conclusion:
You gained mostly bodyfat.
You gained at least 30% more bodyfat than lean mass.
You gained at most 20 lbs of lean mass and at least 25 lbs of bodyfat.
Other impressions:
Some of your lean mass gains were probably water weight, so
you probably gained 10-15 lbs of “dry” muscle mass in ~25 weeks time.
In my opinion, this is near optimal in terms of muscle gain.
Could you have accomplished this with less bodyfat gain?
Probably.
Will you spend more time trying to retain mass while leaning down latter?
Probably.
Did you fail? Definitely not.
Suggestions:
You should slow down your weight gain by adding additional activity(cardio, walks, etc…) and once you’ve hit a wall with the time you have to train, you should draw down your calories and lean down through diet.
How long before you “Diet down” is going to be entirely dependent on you efforts to slow fat gains(if you decide to do so).
Good job and Good luck.
I see math is not your strong suit. If you gain 1 pound of muscle and 1 pound of fat, you increase your BF% unless you are already over 50% bf.
If you gain fat and muscle at the same rate, your BF% doesn’t change at all. I see you fail at math too.
Wrong. If you weigh 180 at 20% bf and you gain 20 lbs, 10 of them are fat, 10 of them muscle. You started out with 36lbs of fat(20% of 180), you now have 46lbs of fat, but you weigh 200lbs. 46/200>36/180, so you increased your BF%.
[/quote]
Common sense will draw you to this conclusion.
However, your REASONING is flawed.
Although, I’ll admit that the facts I used were probably not as simple as I intended and probably can’t be proven concisely in the scope of this thread.
BTW, I graduated from The University of Texas with a BS in Pure Mathematics…summa cum laude…at the age of 19.
I’m pursuing Mechanical Engineering now.
Thanks.
[quote]ghettocandyman wrote:
im closing in on deadlifting 500 pounds…i did 485x2 today…a few weeks ago i did 420 or 430 x1 idr…ive more than doubled my deads in 4 months naturally i dont get how thats bad progress in size or anything… squats to i did 345 for reps 2 days ago, when i couldnt even get 185x2 in august… when i havent seen people do that…or deadlift 500 pounds that have been deadlifting 4 months…or even a year…i dunno i only know this dude from my brother… who gave up this shit he stopped cuz he wasnt getting bigger i dont know the point of that at all…but whatever…also so he could train people i got pictures of him…not adam… [Blah, blah, blah]
[/quote]
It’s not a rate my strength increase forum and we’re still waiting for that picture.
[quote]ghettocandyman wrote:
but anyways…ive gotten fat, but who the hell cares.
[/quote]
Anyone who rates you on this forum should care, so should your trainer Adam.
[quote]ghettocandyman wrote:
when i cut in march imma come back
and post that shit and be like HA MOTHER FUCKERS wtf now[/quote]
Looking forward to it.
It sure looks that way. Everything about you screams BS.
[quote]TooHuman wrote:
BTW, I graduated from The University of Texas with a BS
[/quote]
ghttocandyman, the response of this site to your progress and spirit was very very encouraging, considering your lofty goals and somewhat-decent-but-not-great-progress.
You ruined that with your “adamisabeast” shenanigans and I don’t even know why. LEt this thread end, you know what you need to do from this point. Just WAIT till you post pictures to be RATED. Post on the physique and performnace forum instead.
im looking forward to it to. you have to wait though…im not cutting till i reach about 19% bodyfat, february
or a 46 inch chest
whichever comes first
and…if you dont believe me that i have a decent physique hiding under all of this
this picture i have was 1.5 months into training my bf went up i think it was like 1.5% or something idk…the traps look bigger
the delts look bigger
for some odd reason my arms look bigger that was
13.5% bf at 145 pounds…14 inch arms or 13.75 cant remember and 36 inch chest(i know it sucked that was what i was lacking and still am) and 47 inch shoulders from what it says on my paper
i know its not that great or anything, but looks better than what i have shown here the fat covers it all and besides that the pictures suck ass…
my lats will look godly also…and
lower bodyfat is more pleasing to the eye and makes you look bigger reguardless of what you look like
as you can see here scroll down the page to see “transformations” when dude lost a bunch of fat
http://www.T-Nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1268956
i aint gunna look like him…but yeah just an example
or this dude who won something on this site
he looks 10x bigger than before
and im going to stop posting now, unless im really that bored
and i sware the adam dude aint me lol i can show you pics of what my brother has created (he made adam huge)
oh yeah i just have 1 question though that aint got shit to do wit this
are squats better in a narrow or in a wider stance?
wider i get more power…but im looking for size idc about power
Switch in cycles of wide stance squats if you feel your legs aren;t big enough or your squat poundages aren’t high enough. They will let your body adjust to higher loads and when you return to shoulder width stance, your back will be able to handle heavier weights.
Too much wide stance squatting MAY widen your hips more than a bit, and at your height you need as slim a waist as possible to maximie your V taper…but I wouldn;t worry about it tbh. If it becomes an issue later on, you can avoid it altogether.
[quote]ghettocandyman wrote:
oh yeah i just have 1 question though that aint got shit to do wit this
are squats better in a narrow or in a wider stance?
wider i get more power…but im looking for size idc about power[/quote]