How much do you DL without a belt and suit DW?
I don’t use a belt for DL so I’m just curious as to why you use one.
[quote]muscleshark wrote:
This guy really is me at 14…only at like 25 or w/e.[/quote]
When I was younger and had not accomplished anything in my life, I craved the validation of others. As I grew older and accomplished things, I no longer felt I had anything to prove to anyone. I didn’t demand validation. I became comfortable in my own skin. This is something that should naturally occur with age - as each year is an opportunity for success.
Sadly, you can always spot the guys who haven’t accomplished anything. They are the ones holding a big sign saying, “LOOK AT ME!” When no one does, they screaming louder.
They also never seem to learn that when you accomplish big things, people notice you - without any effort on your own part. When you are as good as Max thinks he is, other people start threads about you. In a word, people come to you.
Max does not know this feeling - in any field or any context. So while his horrible attitude makes him worthy of being mocked, the better part of our souls only feel pity.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
Yeah, but regardless of all the insults that you throw out there, I’m still stronger than you. So in the end, you’re just an anonymous weak bitch.
Speaking of weak… How emotionally weak must one be to keep posting pictures of himself and demanding validation? How insecure must someone be that he cannot be content with his own accomplishments and can’t derive any feelings of self-worth from his accomplishments?
What’s it like to go through life craving the admiration of others - but instead receiving scorn and ridicule?
Do your heart race when you see someone has replied to one of your posts? “Someone has read my post and is about to praise me,” you must tell yourself. Does your stomach drop when you are mocked instead?
Do you live a life of constant desperation and disappointment? Or does hope spring eternal? Do you keep refreshing your browser thinking: “Someone will validate me, I just know it!”[/quote]
You must lead a pathetic existence if you derive joy in attempting to delve so deeply into my psyche. Why do you constantly post in my threads if you think I’m such a loser? Why even waste your time? Surely you must have other means of gaining pleasure… such as… maybe… lifting? No, wait. You probably don’t do that. Nevermind.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
muscleshark wrote:
This guy really is me at 14…only at like 25 or w/e.
When I was younger and had not accomplished anything in my life, I craved the validation of others. As I grew older and accomplished things, I no longer felt I had anything to prove to anyone. I didn’t demand validation. I became comfortable in my own skin. This is something that should naturally occur with age - as each year is an opportunity for success.
Sadly, you can always spot the guys who haven’t accomplished anything. They are the ones holding a big sign saying, “LOOK AT ME!” When no one does, they screaming louder.
They also never seem to learn that when you accomplish big things, people notice you - without any effort on your own part. When you are as good as Max thinks he is, other people start threads about you. In a word, people come to you.
Max does not know this feeling - in any field or any context. So while his horrible attitude makes him worthy of being mocked, the better part of our souls only feel pity.[/quote]
Maybe you should stop preaching and watch more pro wrestling. And stop reading too.
[quote]MetalFuel wrote:
How much do you DL without a belt and suit DW?
I don’t use a belt for DL so I’m just curious as to why you use one.
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I don’t lift with a suit. I pulled 505 raw, using only a belt. I haven’t tried to pull anywhere near that without a belt. That would be reckless. I never sustained a back injury, and don’t intend to ever be put in that situation. Therefore, I use a belt when I pull heavy weight.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
muscleshark wrote:
This guy really is me at 14…only at like 25 or w/e.
When I was younger and had not accomplished anything in my life, I craved the validation of others. As I grew older and accomplished things, I no longer felt I had anything to prove to anyone. I didn’t demand validation. I became comfortable in my own skin. This is something that should naturally occur with age - as each year is an opportunity for success.
Sadly, you can always spot the guys who haven’t accomplished anything. They are the ones holding a big sign saying, “LOOK AT ME!” When no one does, they screaming louder.
They also never seem to learn that when you accomplish big things, people notice you - without any effort on your own part. When you are as good as Max thinks he is, other people start threads about you. In a word, people come to you.
Max does not know this feeling - in any field or any context. So while his horrible attitude makes him worthy of being mocked, the better part of our souls only feel pity.[/quote]
Ha! What have you accomplished, Mr. Anonymity?
I don’t know the feeling of accomplishment?
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I served my country in a combat zone (Operation Iraqi Freedom - Ba’Qubah, Iraq - 2003) when I was 20 years old.
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I went from ~100lbs to 170lbs, gaining mostly muscle, since high school.
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I recently did a 505 raw deadlift @ 168lbs which is slightly over triple bodyweight.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m obviously devoid of that feeling.
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
MetalFuel wrote:
How much do you DL without a belt and suit DW?
I don’t use a belt for DL so I’m just curious as to why you use one.
I don’t lift with a suit. I pulled 505 raw, using only a belt. I haven’t tried to pull anywhere near that without a belt. That would be reckless. I never sustained a back injury, and don’t intend to ever be put in that situation. Therefore, I use a belt when I pull heavy weight.[/quote]
I don’t see anything reckless about deadlifting without a belt.
I attempt new 1rm without one and if my form starts to break down, I stop.
Using a belt with loads a great deal heavier than you’re capable of without one seems more like a crutch used to justify/improve poor form than a precaution used to avoid injury.
The belt may protect from injury during max attempts, but it may also be lead to mechanical instability and possibly injury in its absence.
This is just my opinion as someone who deadlifts heavy without need for belt(so far).
I’m not attempting to disqualify your methods as “the wrong way”, I’m just offering some insight.
[quote]Ha! What have you accomplished, Mr. Anonymity?
I don’t know the feeling of accomplishment?
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I served my country in a combat zone (Operation Iraqi Freedom - Ba’Qubah, Iraq - 2003) when I was 20 years old.
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I went from ~100lbs to 170lbs, gaining mostly muscle, since high school.
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I recently did a 505 raw deadlift @ 168lbs which is slightly over triple bodyweight.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m obviously devoid of that feeling.[/quote]
The fact that you felt it necessary to respond to his post with a list of your “accomplishments” only signifies that he’s probably right.
If you were really comfortable with what you’ve accomplished, you wouldn’t need to immediately rebut when challenged.
[quote]Travacolypse wrote:
Ha! What have you accomplished, Mr. Anonymity?
I don’t know the feeling of accomplishment?
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I served my country in a combat zone (Operation Iraqi Freedom - Ba’Qubah, Iraq - 2003) when I was 20 years old.
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I went from ~100lbs to 170lbs, gaining mostly muscle, since high school.
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I recently did a 505 raw deadlift @ 168lbs which is slightly over triple bodyweight.
Yeah, you’re right. I’m obviously devoid of that feeling.
The fact that you felt it necessary to respond to his post with a list of your “accomplishments” only signifies that he’s probably right.
If you were really comfortable with what you’ve accomplished, you wouldn’t need to immediately rebut when challenged.
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Agreed. I personally enjoyed, going from 100 pounds to 170 pounds as a major life accomplishment. Can you imagine? So, what did you accomplish in your lifetime son…?, well I went from 100 to 170 pounds! hahahaha. I think that’s called puberty!,
I don’t know many grown men that weight 100 pounds, I think 170 is pretty standard for a grown human. Mine as well throw growing that facial hair by yourself as a major life accomplishment as well. Too funny.
[quote]muscleshark wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
muscleshark wrote:
Anyways, DW, you’ve stated numerous times that you weight train for strength and not aesthetic purposes. Why then would you ask us to rate your phisique and then get upset when we let you know you’re not that aesthetic?
You are wasting your time using logic with DW. Really.
Anyhow, I was feeling a little down today - body is fighting a cold. Then I open up this thread and laugh so hard I almost spit up the string cheese I was eating.
Once you really that DW is a fool to be mocked, and not someone you should seek to persuade or otherwise engage, you recognize his value to this site. The guy is hilarious. You can’t pay for entertainment like this.
DW is truly the only legitimate ass clown I’ve ever encountered. Savor it.
That’s exactly what I was thinking when I read the post above your’s!
This guy really is me at 14…only at like 25 or w/e.[/quote]
If you say so, but remember I know who you are and what you look like, you were enemy number one over on another fitness board with similar threads like this. Maybe you’ve matured I dunno excellence, but be smart about your posts.
Oh and btw, you look nothing like this DW character, ur much smaller than he is.
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
I went from ~100lbs to 170lbs, gaining mostly muscle, since high school.
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You weighed 100 pounds in high school???..is…that…possible. Anyone else wanna call bullshit on that.
[quote]MetalFuel wrote:
This is just my opinion as someone who deadlifts heavy without need for belt(so far).
I’m not attempting to disqualify your methods as “the wrong way”, I’m just offering some insight.
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I’m actually curious, MetalFuel. How much do you deadlift? I’m only asking because I want to know if it is possible to deadlift triple bodyweight (like D.W.) WITHOUT a belt WITHOUT injuring yourself.
I had the same mentality as you and paid for it with a back that stayed injured for a year. I don’t know anybody and have never seen anybody who doesn’t deadlift around that much weight without a belt. Thanks.
[quote]DieselWeasel wrote:
20 pounds? I added 10-15 since last September. If I added 20 more pounds, I’d be 5’5" and 190lbs. Most people who lift weights aren’t even 190lbs when they’re half a foot taller than me, unless they have a lot of extra bodyfat.[/quote]
Most people. You want to be like most people? I’m just saying that if put on 20 lean pounds you’d probably fill out.
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Really? I actually think my package looks entirely too big in those pics. Anyway, why are you concerned with my crotch if you’re straight?[/quote]
It was a joke because so many people are concerned about the trunks and not how you looked posing in the pic.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
MetalFuel wrote:
This is just my opinion as someone who deadlifts heavy without need for belt(so far).
I’m not attempting to disqualify your methods as “the wrong way”, I’m just offering some insight.
I’m actually curious, MetalFuel. How much do you deadlift? I’m only asking because I want to know if it is possible to deadlift triple bodyweight (like D.W.) WITHOUT a belt WITHOUT injuring yourself.
I had the same mentality as you and paid for it with a back that stayed injured for a year. I don’t know anybody and have never seen anybody who doesn’t deadlift around that much weight without a belt. Thanks.[/quote]
I think it’s possible and reasonable.
My best DL is 480# last thursday.
I’ll be going for a double in 3-4 weeks. 480 is all the weight I can afford to buy until the end of my fall semester. The bar says it supports up to 500 so i’ll need to find a better one soon.
Not quite 3x bodyweight, but I’m not too concerned about numbers as long as I’m improving.
I weigh about 80 kg and am 18 y/o.
[quote]BF Bullpup wrote:
I had the same mentality as you and paid for it with a back that stayed injured for a year. I don’t know anybody and have never seen anybody who doesn’t deadlift around that much weight without a belt. Thanks.[/quote]
I’m sure there are plenty of people that do it. It’s not really that unheard of. I’m not at triple bodyweight, but I pull in the mid-500 without a belt.
I have lifted with many other people who pull in the 500-600’s, and very few of us ever use a belt in training. I’m sure a few of them have hit triple bodyweight. I just don’t know because I don’t know what each of them actually weigh.
In fact here is a video clip of a 625 lb pull. (I hope he doesn’t mind me posting it here.) I realize it’s probably not 3x bw – I would guess he weighs somewhere around 250 or so – but it is a 600+ deadlift with no belt.
http://media.putfile.com/Chubby-Viking-625-DL-at-WI-State-Fair-Age-46
[quote]PF_88 wrote:
DieselWeasel wrote:
I went from ~100lbs to 170lbs, gaining mostly muscle, since high school.
You weighed 100 pounds in high school???..is…that…possible. Anyone else wanna call bullshit on that.[/quote]
Believe it or not, it’s true. I have a pic of me in high school, but it was after I started lifting, I think. I need to scan it. I probably weighed ~115lbs in that pic.
BTW, do you have pics of muscleshark? I need a good laugh.
[quote]n3wb wrote:
Man, don’t link to stuff like that. I was laughing out loud - literally and very loudly. I almost spit a Spike Shooter on my computer screen.
[quote]n3wb wrote:
LMFAO!!! That’s classic
Why would you post those pictures on the internet? That thread over at bodybuilding.com is even more comical. Your such a clown man, I don’t get it. Your one messed up dude.