Rant: Male Body Image and Status in Modern Society

Oh, and by the way, of course I am using bubba derisively.

Probably not in the regionally xenophobic manner you’re thinking of though.
I mean, I realize middle class low cultural capital goons and other bottomfeeders are necessary to keep the wheels running, but it doesn’t make contact any more pleasant.

And it’s cute how this was turned into ‘OP WANTS EVERYONE TO BE TREATED THE SAME’ rant. Of course I don’t expect to be treated the same, and the reason why is what I’m complaining about.

Anyway… go back to being bubbas, bubbas.

Troll?

[quote]SkyzykS wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
OP you sound like a fucking pussy. If you do or don’t do something, including lifting, in an attempt to please others you just need to get on your knees and start sucking dick.

/thread[/quote]

YEZZZUZRRRRR BUBBA

I’m gonna suck hella dick. I’m gonna suck a bag of dicks. I’m gonna go down to the gym, line every Alpha Male up and suck all their dicks.

Then what, bubba?
[/quote]

Then you would be the $400.00/hr CEO of sucking dicks, at which point you could go buy big boy toys, party like a rock star, and comb the pubes out of your man gooch with a platinum plated mustache comb.

Odd choice in life for a seemingly smart guy, but what ever.

[/quote]
Ha

Maybe we can help by suggesting some names for his new company?

Man-Protein

The original idea of the OP was right. People are insecure about themselves, and judging anyone who is different than them. Fat people call us meatheads, normal people basically don’t care, except for those who would like a decent physique but they just lazy to go the gym, and then the guys who think they workoout but never gain a single pound, call us junkies. The bottom line is this OP: Fuck what anyone else thinks. Do whatever you enjoy, be happy and only care about the opinion of people you actually care about.

[quote]Nards wrote:
The OP is sounding like one of those pretty girls that whines about how everyone judges her by her looks and grates on everyone and doesn’t realize that we’re now judging her by her words and actions.[/quote]

There is wisdom here.

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, [/quote]

You just called us “insecure little men” on the previous page. What do you see as “uncivil”?

You appear to be real good at pointing out the faults of everyone else. You appear to be completely unaware of your own landslide of faults.

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
psychologist[/quote]

What’s your deal with psychologists anyway?

Trying to fake your way into being a real doctor by making fun of other fake doctors?

And so the circle of insecure little men goes on![/quote]

This is one of the more ironic statements I’ve seen…

[quote]want2getlean wrote:
I mean, not long ago I was not unlike the same exact people I’m crying about now, but thankfully I matured emotionally, socially and civically. [/quote]

… because unless said maturation occurred within the past month or so, you were trying to legitimize your statements on physiology by disqualifying X’s because he is a ‘fake doctor.’

But as far as your OP goes- people will beg, borrow, and steal to build self-esteem. An easy way to feel valued is to be identified as a member of a group, and an easy way to be identified as a member of a group is to unite against a common ‘enemy’ (invented or otherwise). It’s unfortunate, but I don’t see it changing anytime soon, especially in a society like ours where looking for the easy way out is so common.

The funniest part of this whole thread was in the original post, relative to the rest of his nonsense:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:
but thankfully I matured emotionally, socially and civically.
[/quote]

LOL!

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, [/quote]

You just called us “insecure little men” [/quote]

You ARE insecure. You have spent years here insulting everyone else, you have an absolutely warped idea of what it means to be a man, and some vendetta against psychologists which I can only guess comes from spending your entire childhood in front of them and being diagnosed with aspergers.

I’m willing to bet good money you were some lanky dork with glasses all the way through school, but you never grew out of it.

[quote]overstand wrote:
The only reason you see this is because you’re thinking about it. You’re projecting yourself onto other people, most people don’t give 2 shits about your muscles.[/quote]

I agree with this somewhat, But the part about being in the clubs and having people act extremely weird around you, is 100% true. I was a bouncer for 3 years on weekends, and I noticed this alot. EXcept the part about drunk dudes wanting to fight me. Even drunk, they knew better.

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
OP, serious question. Which do you dislike most: people judging you on your looks? Or that you know what their judgements are?[/quote]

Both, since I also dislike positive discrimination, because more than anything it just shows faults and vicarious emotions in the other person.[/quote]

Him like big words. Me don’t understand why him can’t speak normally, as if speaking in person. Not a dig, just curious.

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, [/quote]

You just called us “insecure little men” [/quote]

You ARE insecure. You have spent years here insulting everyone else, you have an absolutely warped idea of what it means to be a man, and some vendetta against psychologists which I can only guess comes from spending your entire childhood in front of them and being diagnosed with aspergers.

I’m willing to bet good money you were some lanky dork with glasses all the way through school, but you never grew out of it.
[/quote]

The asperger’s thing is getting old. Wasn’t particularly poignant or entertaining the first time you went for it, and (possibly) unlike you it hasn’t matured into anything better since. Making fun of people for having a brand of autism doesn’t bespeak much maturity.

Every insult you drop in here undermines the message of your OP significantly. Your bipolar posting really makes it difficult to put a lot of credence in even the relevant or intelligent things that you discuss.

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, [/quote]

You just called us “insecure little men” [/quote]

You ARE insecure. You have spent years here insulting everyone else, you have an absolutely warped idea of what it means to be a man, and some vendetta against psychologists which I can only guess comes from spending your entire childhood in front of them and being diagnosed with aspergers.

I’m willing to bet good money you were some lanky dork with glasses all the way through school, but you never grew out of it.
[/quote]

The asperger’s thing is getting old. Wasn’t particularly poignant or entertaining the first time you went for it, and (possibly) unlike you it hasn’t matured into anything better since. Making fun of people for having a brand of autism doesn’t bespeak much maturity.

Every insult you drop in here undermines the message of your OP significantly. Your bipolar posting really makes it difficult to put a lot of credence in even the relevant or intelligent things that you discuss.[/quote]

Ahhhhhh, autism and bi-polar. 2 modern day made up disorders that simply do not exist.

‘I can’t stand people treating my any differently because of my size’

Meh…in time, hopefully, you’ll learn to enjoy being different + instead of being anatgonized by imbeciles who treat you differently, eventually, you’ll just find yourself chuckling at them to yourself.

Their are times (albeit very rarely) that I’d kinda like to not be nearly 6ft 6 & 270+LBS…then again… I know in truth, however advantageous it may be to be normal sized (in certain situations)…I know overall I’d miss the thrill of pretty much always being the biggest dude in the room among other things.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, [/quote]

You just called us “insecure little men” [/quote]

You ARE insecure. You have spent years here insulting everyone else, you have an absolutely warped idea of what it means to be a man, and some vendetta against psychologists which I can only guess comes from spending your entire childhood in front of them and being diagnosed with aspergers.

I’m willing to bet good money you were some lanky dork with glasses all the way through school, but you never grew out of it.
[/quote]

The asperger’s thing is getting old. Wasn’t particularly poignant or entertaining the first time you went for it, and (possibly) unlike you it hasn’t matured into anything better since. Making fun of people for having a brand of autism doesn’t bespeak much maturity.

Every insult you drop in here undermines the message of your OP significantly. Your bipolar posting really makes it difficult to put a lot of credence in even the relevant or intelligent things that you discuss.[/quote]

Ahhhhhh, autism and bi-polar. 2 modern day made up disorders that simply do not exist. [/quote]

I wasn’t using bipolar in the sense of a disorder.

Have you ever actually interacted with someone diagnosed with aspergers or another variety of autism?

EDIT: NVM, I’m sure you’ve seen elderly people around, yet you still deny aging.

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, [/quote]

You just called us “insecure little men” [/quote]

You ARE insecure. You have spent years here insulting everyone else, you have an absolutely warped idea of what it means to be a man, and some vendetta against psychologists which I can only guess comes from spending your entire childhood in front of them and being diagnosed with aspergers.

I’m willing to bet good money you were some lanky dork with glasses all the way through school, but you never grew out of it.
[/quote]

The asperger’s thing is getting old. Wasn’t particularly poignant or entertaining the first time you went for it, and (possibly) unlike you it hasn’t matured into anything better since. Making fun of people for having a brand of autism doesn’t bespeak much maturity.

Every insult you drop in here undermines the message of your OP significantly. Your bipolar posting really makes it difficult to put a lot of credence in even the relevant or intelligent things that you discuss.[/quote]

Ahhhhhh, autism and bi-polar. 2 modern day made up disorders that simply do not exist. [/quote]

I wasn’t using bipolar in the sense of a disorder.

Have you ever actually interacted with someone diagnosed with aspergers or another variety of autism?

EDIT: NVM, I’m sure you’ve seen elderly people around, yet you still deny aging.[/quote]

People age cause they have been told from birth that age is inevitable(form of brainwashing). If people were raised in a society were age was believed to be totally mind related. Meaning, we age only if we allow ourselves to age. Do you think people would live a hell of alot longer than they do now. I’d bet anything, they would.

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]roguevampire wrote:

[quote]bigmac73nh wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, [/quote]

You just called us “insecure little men” [/quote]

You ARE insecure. You have spent years here insulting everyone else, you have an absolutely warped idea of what it means to be a man, and some vendetta against psychologists which I can only guess comes from spending your entire childhood in front of them and being diagnosed with aspergers.

I’m willing to bet good money you were some lanky dork with glasses all the way through school, but you never grew out of it.
[/quote]

The asperger’s thing is getting old. Wasn’t particularly poignant or entertaining the first time you went for it, and (possibly) unlike you it hasn’t matured into anything better since. Making fun of people for having a brand of autism doesn’t bespeak much maturity.

Every insult you drop in here undermines the message of your OP significantly. Your bipolar posting really makes it difficult to put a lot of credence in even the relevant or intelligent things that you discuss.[/quote]

Ahhhhhh, autism and bi-polar. 2 modern day made up disorders that simply do not exist. [/quote]

I wasn’t using bipolar in the sense of a disorder.

Have you ever actually interacted with someone diagnosed with aspergers or another variety of autism?

EDIT: NVM, I’m sure you’ve seen elderly people around, yet you still deny aging.[/quote]

People age cause they have been told from birth that age is inevitable(form of brainwashing). If people were raised in a society were age was believed to be totally mind related. Meaning, we age only if we allow ourselves to age. Do you think people would live a hell of alot longer than they do now. I’d bet anything, they would. [/quote]

Maybe.

I think the mentality of treating the illness rather than the cause of the illness is more to blame for aging in our society though. Working on general health rather than just throwing band-aids on whatever ailments arise as a result of shitty living probably has more to do with aging then acceptance of aging and death does.

If a mental rejection of aging/maturity is the cure for aging, the cast of Jersey Shore is on track for immortality.

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
I suggest in the future if you want a civil conversation you treat the other posters with the same respect you wish the topic treated.[/quote]

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, the typical homophobic wannabe macho middle class white guys came running guns ablazing right out of the gate.

But that’s what I get for being a thinking man amongst a sea of manchild goons, sigh[/quote]
Here, have a cookie and some lemonade, everything is going to be oooooo-kaaaaay.

Did you want a hug? A booji boo boo! Booji booji boo boo! A biiiig hug for you!

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]Tex Ag wrote:
I suggest in the future if you want a civil conversation you treat the other posters with the same respect you wish the topic treated.[/quote]

I wasn’t uncivil to anyone, the typical homophobic wannabe macho middle class white guys came running guns ablazing right out of the gate.

But that’s what I get for being a thinking man amongst a sea of manchild goons, sigh[/quote]
Here, have a cookie and some lemonade, everything is going to be oooooo-kaaaaay.

Did you want a hug? A booji boo boo! Booji booji boo boo! A biiiig hug for you![/quote]

Lol.

Oh, the occupational hazards of being the tragic intellectual among the beefcake bourgeoisie.

P.S. I don’t know how homophobia really figures into this in such a significant way.