Rant - August 27/04

I think im going to start cutting the rant of the day to rant of the week. I have a feeling people are going to start to get annoyed with this ass who is complaining all the time…

Today’s im sure can relate to everyone here.

During my workout tonight, a guy recognized me as being a friend of his friend. We started chatting a bit and I can already tell he is sizing me up. This schmuk thinks hes better than me and whatnot. Starts asking me crap like “do you take protein?” blah blah blah…

My rest period is over, so I head over to the olympic bar and start doing curls… he comes over to me and says “I dont know exactly what youre doing, but try this”, trying to instruct me on a new way of doing curls with an olympic bar… I’m thinking to myself this guy can’t be for real. Giving me workout advice… I brush him off, telling him im pretty strict with my routine today and he goes away for a bit… He ends up coming back over to me while im doing dips and tries to tell me that tricep kickbacks are a more effective way of building the triceps since they isolate them more…

So here are my options: Should I direct him to this website, tell him he’s a dumbass and to read until his eyes bleed, or should I just let him continue to think he is the king of the weightroom and continue getting all his info from Men’s Health magazine?

Sorry, I shouldnt have asked for opinions on the above, I opted to let him continue to get his info from men’s health. It will make me feel that much better when in a year from now I see him, im 205 and hes still struggling to fill in his medium t shirt…

Rant Over…
Until next week…

A word for you. Bemused.

I don’t know why you guys take this stuff so seriously. If you smile and take the interruption in good humor, you’ll have an ally instead of an enemy. Why burn bridges unnecessarily?

Certainly you can forward him to this site, but I wouldn’t do in such a way to provoke confrontation.

DI

my apologies for not explaining my relationship to this guy a bit better.
He is one of those guys that in whatever he does, he is automatically the best at it. His car, better than your, his girlfriend, hotter than yours, his job, pays better…

I only met him for a brief time before I saw him in the gym and guess what, already telling me what and how to do things…

If there is one thing that im damn good at, its lifting. I can accept the fact that there are many many people better than me at it, but when people like him cross my path while im doing something I KNOW I excel at, I dont have patience to explain why his advice means nothing…

just doing curls with the oly bar? lol…hmmm stress and exhaust your body- not your mind.

Help him, the same way that you would want to be helped if you were in his position.

thanks for the good laugh! triceps kickbacks vs dips… there’s not comparison if you ask me :slight_smile: ask him to demonstrate his infamous triceps kickbacks…

seriously, i know, it’s a little “annoying” when you make friends at the gym… it just slows you down. of course, if you just tell them your situation (rest periods and so forth, pointing to your watch) it should be ok :slight_smile:

i know some of these guys as well… well, do your best to handle the situation… and please, share the wealth, send him over here and ask him to read “until his eyes bleed” :slight_smile:

[quote]jgrn13 wrote:
So here are my options: Should I direct him to this website, tell him he’s a dumbass and to read until his eyes bleed,[/quote]

Please don’t…

[quote]or should I just let him continue to think he is the king of the weightroom and continue getting all his info from Men’s Health magazine?

He is one of those guys that in whatever he does, he is automatically the best at it. His car, better than your, his girlfriend, hotter than yours, his job, pays better…[/quote]

…if that is his bent, then he will probably not be persuaded by you or anyone who posts here. He will need to want change of his own accord before he finds the information here valuable. You can lead a horse to water…

[quote]jgrn13 wrote:
He is one of those guys that in whatever he does, he is automatically the best at it. His car, better than your, his girlfriend, hotter than yours, his job, pays better…[/quote]

Sounds like his dick is probably smaller.

Try this. When he comes up and says that exercise X is better than what you’re doing, ask him why. After he answers, or stammers around a little, explain why the exercise you’re doing is better for your personal goals.

If he’s worthy of your attention, he’ll make some sort of intelligent response. If he’s not, he’ll make some smartass remark.

Give him a few times before you write him off. He might need to do some soul searching before he’s ready to admit you could be better than he is at something. Eventually, he will either stop bothering you, or he will begin conversing intelligently.

HA! Dude with those people you just beat them at their own game.

He tells you isolation is better. Counter with its been proven that compound movments involving more muscles develop mass better as the synergists have to work in concert and by being overloaded are forced to grow quicker. Plus it won’t cause imbalances like isolation movements are prone to do.

he says his car is better. Counter with yours is paid for, still has 4 wheels and an engine and gets you around just as well. AND your insurance is cheaper.

his job pays more. You’re happy and feel fulfilled after a long day at work.

His girl is better. Well fyi she’s a slore (thats a slut and a whore) that you teabagged 2 yrs before they met. She won’t tell him but thats mostly cause she averts her eyes when she sees you.

yes I’m a proponent for lying.

Also you could critique him by mockin his form.

What you do is go to the hottest girl working for your gym and ask her if she knows this guy and what his deal is? Tell her that he keeps following you around and hitting on you and that you’re getting annoyed and if she could say something to him.

But seriously, just say to him, “you know, I do like tricep kickbacks too, but I’m taking a little break from them right now - something I learned from t-nation. You should check out their site, because there is a wealth of knowledge and its helped me out a lot.” That way, you’re polite, you’ve acknowledged him without patronizing him, and you might actually get him to check out t-nation. Then, he will learn a little bit and leave you alone.

Or, you could just hit him in the nads.

DB

Tell him about the awesome qualities of drinking beer postworkout.

do you think a frequent reader of t-nation would waste his/her time with curls using ONLY the olympic bar? I was just trying to paint a picture…

that would be the funniest thing ever. In the middle of my set, drop the weights, stand up, knee the guy in the nuts, watch him cringe and fall to the ground, pick up my weights again and finish my set, pretending nothing ever happened…

Im still laughing!!

[quote]CoachMorris wrote:
Tell him about the awesome qualities of drinking beer postworkout.
[/quote]

HAHHA not this again!! beer has already been proven 100x more effective than a “protein shake” … whatever that is

[quote]alfuh wrote:
CoachMorris wrote:
Tell him about the awesome qualities of drinking beer postworkout.

HAHHA not this again!! beer has already been proven 100x more effective than a “protein shake” … whatever that is
[/quote]

Thank you, I now everyone will see that it has been scientifically proven. :O)

[quote]CoachMorris wrote:
alfuh wrote:
CoachMorris wrote:
Tell him about the awesome qualities of drinking beer postworkout.

HAHHA not this again!! beer has already been proven 100x more effective than a “protein shake” … whatever that is

Thank you, I now everyone will see that it has been scientifically proven. :O)

[/quote]

mwuhahahaha. damn Coach! just can’t let this one go huh? I saw some funny shit here, but yours took the cake. Speaking of which, I highly recommend a post WO meal of cake washed down with aforementioned beer.

But seriously, with this guy, here’s my advice. First, keep this in mind: those that talk don’t know and those that know don’t talk. YOU have the advantage - YOU have the knowledge - YOU have the power. Instead of getting upset, KNOW that you have the upperhand, and let him know that. Nonconfrontational? Bullshit - he is confrontational - give him a dose of his own and perhaps he’ll STFU. Just be direct, brief, and confident to the border of arrogance.

My $.02,
Bastard F*ck Guy

Keep in mind, as was openly requested awhile ago… please do not send everyone and their grandmother here. Sounds like the guy is a douche, whatever. Everyone does different things. The other day a guy walked up to me, asked me if I was someone I wasn’t. I answered no, and then he based our new friendship off of that, the fact that I look someone he used to know but hasn’t seen in four years. Oh, and I don’t look exactly like him, I am a little leaner, taller… etc. Whatever.

Anyway, if your friend wants to spend his time working his pretty muscles and harassing you, I don’t think he’ll add much here. Yeah, the reading can be great, and typically I like to “test” people out before I forward them. Damn near everyone who has approached me for advice or accepted my help and shows up to the gym another time gets an invite, and anyone at school who has a real interest in it gets an “invite”, but this site isn’t a general purpose facility where you can send people at whim because you don’t want to spend time with them. Keep that in mind.

He is confrontational. Either tell him to beat it or smile and go about your work.

[quote]BFG wrote:

I highly recommend a post WO meal of cake washed down with aforementioned beer.
[/quote]

Damn. I’ve been using Ding Dongs and Strawberry Quik.

Just say, “Thanks for the tip.” Then ignore him and go back to what you were doing. That way he can feel smug and hopefully you’ll be rid of him. If he doesn’t go away, keep repeating, “Thanks, I’ll have to try that some day.”