“JWright, Akheron, Goldberg, Poohbaya, what is it that really offends you about this guy?”
Offend is a very strong word. Nothing he said has offended me in anyway. He went on and on about how bad his diet was. To me, if i know what is wrong with something, I know enough to change it. common sense to me. I thought he just wasnt using his common sense.
DocT, I’d bet you that 4realyo’s response was based on the tone and words of the prior message. He actually got some good advice from Whetu and Iron Maiden and thanked them.
I do passionately agree that the forum is for the benefit of all, and I very much wanted others to stop by and comment. This one just went from bad to worse.
JWright, you and DocT came to the same conclusion. You probably posted your messages at the same time.
Akheron, honestly, I didn’t read it the same way as you did. 4realyo had PM’d me, and I asked him to post on the forum. He already knew I was willing to share my thoughts and critique his diet. It was probably more a case of his feeling safe or comfortable with me, rather than being lazy. Things like a good attitude (or a bad one) are more easily read when two people are face to face. 'Net and forum communications are imperfect/incomplete at best.
He’s disappeared, of course, but I can assure you, his reading and research are well under way. He’s just another guy that stumbled onto a huge resource and needed to be pointed in the right direction. A year ago, I was that “guy.”
I’m not telling anyone how to spend their time. But someone as smart as Terry shouldn’t be wasting their time helping someone who isn’t willing to help themself.
Terry’s time would be much better spent discussing topics a bit more informative than telling you not to eat pizza and ice cream. But that’s just my opinion. Obviously I’m not nearly and generous and friendly.
Akheron, I’m 44. In other words, I’m no kid. I had two grandmothers die from complications related to diabetes. My mother was OVER 300 pounds all of her life. I SWORE I would never get fat. We’re talking core value, here. Nonetheless, losing weight hasn’t been easy for me, which prompted my study of metabolism, endocrinology, macronutrient manipulation, biochemistry, physiology and supplements. I’ve learned a lot, thanks to my very stubborn metabolism.
I’m here (on T-Mag) because I want to be. When it comes to losing weight and manipulating body composition, I don’t think there’s any such thing as a dumb question or one that isn’t worth answering. The limiting factor in my life and in what I contribute is time.
I know you have things you care about and things you contribute. Helping people take control, helping them improve their health and self esteem is what I care about. I promise you, I’m not wasting my time. It’s a case of caring and giving back what has been given to me. Maybe even paying it forward a bit?
It was quite funny watching this thing unfold. Did anyone expect 4realyo not to get flamed?, Akheron too maybe. The thing I found really funny was the quoting of the MA/Boxing record shades of Bigconan. How do internet tough guys differ from internet boxers/MAists. I have never seen Boxer_al quote his record. No offense intended here.
Some people are too lazy, but I do think people here are too quick to start flaming. Every day we got new people on the web and reading this forum. Considering there is over 5 years of weekly articles, that is a lot of information, and can be very overwhelming for many people. Plus when people get here they often want results today. It might be better to ease most people in, and push people in the right direction. If we flame too soon, we might just scare off newbies.
I won’t say that a flame is undeserved from time to time, (“I’m sixteen and have never worked out before in my life, and will not diet, how much Mag-10 should I take?”) and giving people crap is half of what this forum is about.
We don’t want this forum turning into a clique now do we?
I totally agree with you pjfan. When venturing into uncharted areas it is nice to know that someone with experience give you a yay or nay on what you are doing. . . . you should come on and do your research before posting something like that. This guys PLANNED diet included pizza and chicken fingers. and he wants to lose fat. I dont need much background to know that golden fried chix fingers, possibly dipped in ranch suace isnt going to make me lean up. Also, the grease on the bottom of the pizza box may be an indication that it might not help your leaning up endeavors.
If you look at the forum, everyday you will find the same post about not eating well and wanting to lose weight and not lose lbm. No search needed, just scroll through the forum. You will find links, advice, no-nos, you will find P+F, P+C all over the place.
BTW, 4realyo, I have a spreadsheet that helps you plan your diet. it has helped about 10 others, myself included. If you would like, PM me your email address and I will email it to you.