[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I would imagine most pro’s don’t have problems with not getting growth in their chest because their delts take it over…THAT IS WHY THEY ARE PRO’S.[/quote]
Mentzer? Waller? (going old school with these examples)… just a couple of top Olympia competitors who were pretty damn developed, definitely at the top of their games, yet couldn’t get growth in their chests without their delts taking over and had to rely on pre-exhaust and tons of flye movements.
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Does “most” mean the same to me as to you?
Mentzer also believed in HIT like it was his religion…and I don’t agree with much of his thought process…and neither do many other people.
I am not sure what you were implying. Maybe you could be more clear?
I would guess most here don’t have Mentzer’s genetics.[/quote]
I think MOST Pros figure out what works for them (or at least their trainers do), and I’m willing to bet it’s not what we’re reading in the pages of Flex Magazine. As Pre-Exhaust is such a common training approach that has been documented since the 1970’s, I’m willing to bet that MOST Pros have used and arguably benefited from the technique at some time during their development. No need for them to constantly rehash and publicize it, it’s not a big issue.
Mentzer was certainly troubled, but was also most definitely a very bright guy at the heart of it all. That he undoubtedly developed one of the top physiques in the world relying on this method it’s irrelevant what the rest of his opinions on politics, religion, or which power ranger was the coolest may have been. Yes you’ll find a hell of a lot of people who admit as such in regard to his well documented stay in an institution, but you won’t find so many who will argue that his thinking along the lines of training approaches, and managing volume (something that most people never really thought about) were revolutionary. This was in the 1970’s, so we’ve already had ~40 years of people accepting such practices as standard.
Obviously anyone reaching the level Mentzer did must have serious genetics, but that’s pretty much a moot point as I don’t think we were discussing anyone with Olympia aspirations.
I’m pretty sure we both share the same meaning of ‘Most’, however the actual credibility that you and I have, should our opinions differ, might differ as well. Neither one of us knows for 100% certainty when we throw out blanket statements. Neither one of us has trained along side multiple IFBB Pros. Sure we both grew up reading the muscle rags, sure we were both pre-med (I’m assuming here), we’re both fairly intelligent and well versed in the ways of the weights, but that’s still not real credibility in making such a comment.
If I’m implying anything, and to be honest, I don’t believe that I was, it’s possibly the slight irritation I stifle when you throw such bold blanket statements out about IFBB pros. Argue, discuss, suggest all you want about approaches you like, or have experience with, but just as I would hesitate to issue such comments as fact, perhaps you wouldn’t garner such a polarizing presence on here if you’d hold your tongue at times.
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