[quote]browndisaster wrote:
lol @ prof x’s haters
he’s hammer strength benched 405 for reps and preacher curled over 85 lbs. stfu small guys[/quote]
Fixed.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
oh jesus, please guys just let it die now ok?
No good can come from keeping this going[/quote]
I was going to. But he keeps coming back claiming that he never said the stuff that HE posted.
It’s just ridiculous.[/quote]
LOL
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Sorry, you lose the rights to the internet police accusation when you average more than 10 posts a day on a single forum for a decade. You are the ultimate keyboard warrior.
I should have never started this thread lol. Gave way too many idiots (probably small, poorly developed idiots) a soapbox to vomit out insults and trash talk from.
X gave me his personal advice…something I was looking for. I was NOT looking for advice from people much smaller, less developed, and less knowledgeable than myself…like most of you guys who are still talking shit to X.
Why would I ask the BIGGER guy for advice…? Because obviously he has been doing something correctly now and again. I don’t want/need advice from guys half my size and maybe twice my age lol. You can name drop and quote articles…good for you. I bet that makes you super huge. Also…how many people come asking YOU for advice (in person, not online where you can hide your weak physique)? I know I get asked daily for training/nutrition advice…because of how I look…not because I regurgitate material from online training articles. And I can only imagine how many people bug X for his “secrets”.
Stu gave his advice right off the bat. Obviously he is one jacked dude. I listened to what he had to say and thanked him for his time. Just because his and X’s advice were contradictory to one another’s doesn’t take away either’s merit. I actually found that on my main chest day I like to pre-fatigue with flies primarily, and on my secondary chest day (which is coupled with shoulders) I hit high rep sets of bench after laterals. There is no one method that is THE ONLY way to do things.
Basically…if you are not more developed than me, or hold a degree pertaining to the topic…try your best to watch the conversation from the sidelines, and perhaps even learn something.
[quote]infinite_shore wrote:
LOL
[quote]Fuzzyapple.Train wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
John Meadows:
EZ bar reverse curls �¢?? 5 sets of 10 reps. After a few warm up sets, I want you to hit these hard. Use only a 10 second break between sets. So do 10 reps, set the weight down and count to 10, and repeat. Do 5 sets total. This might sting a bit. Your brachioradialis and brachialis will be crying.
Machine preacher curls �¢?? 3 sets of 12 reps. I want you to do these heavy, and to not lower the weight all the way down. Choose a weight so heavy you can only do about 6 reps, then have your partner assist you with the last 6 reps. Flex the first 6 reps hard at the peak contraction, and then on the last 6, just keep the weight moving.
“Your tired brachialis and brachioradialis will not be engaged much at all in this movement, so your BICEPS will absorb the pounding.”[/quote]
So, if I want to work my brachialis and brachroradialis do I pound my biceps out before I do? [/quote]
LOL
[quote]krillin wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
John Meadows:
EZ bar reverse curls �¢?? 5 sets of 10 reps. After a few warm up sets, I want you to hit these hard. Use only a 10 second break between sets. So do 10 reps, set the weight down and count to 10, and repeat. Do 5 sets total. This might sting a bit. Your brachioradialis and brachialis will be crying.
Machine preacher curls �¢?? 3 sets of 12 reps. I want you to do these heavy, and to not lower the weight all the way down. Choose a weight so heavy you can only do about 6 reps, then have your partner assist you with the last 6 reps. Flex the first 6 reps hard at the peak contraction, and then on the last 6, just keep the weight moving.
“Your tired brachialis and brachioradialis will not be engaged much at all in this movement, so your BICEPS will absorb the pounding.” [/quote]
Interesting, I am doing a John Meadows program from an e-book and I didn’t find this in there. Normally it’s biceps first and then the Hammer/reverse curls. One more tool in the toolbox to switch things up I suppose, I’ll try it sometime.[/quote]
It’s from one of his articles here for arms. I’ve never done John’ programs. Just posting it because so many people have a problem grasping this simple logic 
Think this is the article you meant
I don’t have as much experience as some of the guys here but this technique has certainly helped me.
so the moral of the story is: try stuff, keep doing what works.
If pre-exhausting your chest with flyes or whatever before pressing helps you build thick, meaty pecs, then keep doing it. If working your tri’s with extensions before pressing helps you use your chest when benching, that’s fine too. By all means listen to gurus but don’t just mindlessly parrot them, try the shit for yourself. There’s no harm in passing on guru’s advice even if you’ve never tried it, but you should at least admit to never having tried it…
We’re all trying to get to the same place, there’s just different ways to get there.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Think FOR YOURSELVES sometimes. [/quote]
This.
[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:
I should have never started this thread lol. Gave way too many idiots (probably small, poorly developed idiots) a soapbox to vomit out insults and trash talk from.
X gave me his personal advice…something I was looking for. I was NOT looking for advice from people much smaller, less developed, and less knowledgeable than myself…like most of you guys who are still talking shit to X.
Why would I ask the BIGGER guy for advice…? Because obviously he has been doing something correctly now and again. I don’t want/need advice from guys half my size and maybe twice my age lol. You can name drop and quote articles…good for you. I bet that makes you super huge. Also…how many people come asking YOU for advice (in person, not online where you can hide your weak physique)? I know I get asked daily for training/nutrition advice…because of how I look…not because I regurgitate material from online training articles. And I can only imagine how many people bug X for his “secrets”.
Stu gave his advice right off the bat. Obviously he is one jacked dude. I listened to what he had to say and thanked him for his time. Just because his and X’s advice were contradictory to one another’s doesn’t take away either’s merit. I actually found that on my main chest day I like to pre-fatigue with flies primarily, and on my secondary chest day (which is coupled with shoulders) I hit high rep sets of bench after laterals. There is no one method that is THE ONLY way to do things.
Basically…if you are not more developed than me, or hold a degree pertaining to the topic…try your best to watch the conversation from the sidelines, and perhaps even learn something.[/quote]
That’s a little much, don’t you think? Honestly, and I think you can probably see it, the current conversation isn’t actually about the question you asked.
Most of the people posting at this point weren’t the ones saying X’s method didn’t have merit. Again, he is the one that shat on the opposite method on the first page. It’s been quoted ad nauseum. He whines that everybody is shitting on his method, then ignores the fact he did the exact same thing, diverting the conversation in any way possible, like this supposed “popularity contest”. Whatever that is, I have no clue.
He has no problem using Tate’s words as ammunition, but the first time someone else uses a high profile person’s name, he accuses them of “name dropping” and just parroting someone else’s words. If you don’t see the obvious and blatant hypocrisy here, well, whatever.
I’m all for differing views and methods. And I have not once posted anything about my opinions one way or the other. But a grown ass man plugging his ears and saying “nananananana, can’t hear you and nothing you say matters cause I’m bigger!” is more childish than anything he’s accused others of being childish about. Even if it was intentional to get people riled up, it’s still pretty pathetic for someone his age.
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[quote]ironmanzvw wrote:
I should have never started this thread lol. Gave way too many idiots (probably small, poorly developed idiots) a soapbox to vomit out insults and trash talk from.
X gave me his personal advice…something I was looking for. I was NOT looking for advice from people much smaller, less developed, and less knowledgeable than myself…like most of you guys who are still talking shit to X.
Why would I ask the BIGGER guy for advice…? Because obviously he has been doing something correctly now and again. I don’t want/need advice from guys half my size and maybe twice my age lol. You can name drop and quote articles…good for you. I bet that makes you super huge. Also…how many people come asking YOU for advice (in person, not online where you can hide your weak physique)? I know I get asked daily for training/nutrition advice…because of how I look…not because I regurgitate material from online training articles. And I can only imagine how many people bug X for his “secrets”.
Stu gave his advice right off the bat. Obviously he is one jacked dude. I listened to what he had to say and thanked him for his time. Just because his and X’s advice were contradictory to one another’s doesn’t take away either’s merit. I actually found that on my main chest day I like to pre-fatigue with flies primarily, and on my secondary chest day (which is coupled with shoulders) I hit high rep sets of bench after laterals. There is no one method that is THE ONLY way to do things.
Basically…if you are not more developed than me, or hold a degree pertaining to the topic…try your best to watch the conversation from the sidelines, and perhaps even learn something.[/quote]
best post…and once again, from someone more developed than most of the people still talking shit.
The goal of all of us should be to get really muscular…not try this freaking hard to win a debate on the internet. I haven’t even logged in since yesterday afternoon. I spent my time doing things that helped my progress.
The bottom line is, ignoring the advice of people who got big because it doesn’t match what you read on line or in a book exactly is a little naive…and most often what you see from people who stay small.
Either way, with this many reads, the message got to more people than it would otherwise.
You can’t change stupid people. There are too many of them.
You can just work on reaching your own goals and ignoring the people who keep you from that.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I haven’t even logged in since yesterday afternoon.
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Yet here you are again, saying the same thing you’ve said in who know how many posts, continuing to divert to something nobody is talking about anymore but you.
[quote]cueball wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I haven’t even logged in since yesterday afternoon.
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Yet here you are again, saying the same thing you’ve said in who know how many posts, continuing to divert to something nobody is talking about anymore but you.
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Cue, spend more time working on that back than you do in this thread…please. I mean, I’m just looking out for you here, dude. I care.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]cueball wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I haven’t even logged in since yesterday afternoon.
[/quote]
Yet here you are again, saying the same thing you’ve said in who know how many posts, continuing to divert to something nobody is talking about anymore but you.
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Cue, spend more time working on that back than you do in this thread…please. I mean, I’m just looking out for you here, dude. I care.
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And again, resorting to the personal to avoid addressing anything that might make you admit you were wrong.
I tell you what, X, I’ll continue working on my back if you continue working on your maturity, deal? I mean, I’m just looking out for you, dude. We can grow together. It’ll be fun.
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
so the moral of the story is: try stuff, keep doing what works.
If pre-exhausting your chest with flyes or whatever before pressing helps you build thick, meaty pecs, then keep doing it. If working your tri’s with extensions before pressing helps you use your chest when benching, that’s fine too. By all means listen to gurus but don’t just mindlessly parrot them, try the shit for yourself. There’s no harm in passing on guru’s advice even if you’ve never tried it, but you should at least admit to never having tried it…
We’re all trying to get to the same place, there’s just different ways to get there.[/quote]
Arguably the most reasonable and to the point post of this entire thread.
Yeah, Cue, maybe if you start pre-fatiguing those biceps before hitting back, you too can have a better back than Ronnie Rockel.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Yeah, Cue, maybe if you start pre-fatiguing those biceps before hitting back, you too can have a better back than Ronnie Rockel.[/quote]
What about doing leg curls, stiff legged deadlifts or hyperextensions or good mornings, bicep curls, forearm curls, and calf raises before bent over rows to prioritize the upper back and lats? You think it will work?
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Yeah, Cue, maybe if you start pre-fatiguing those biceps before hitting back, you too can have a better back than Ronnie Rockel.[/quote]
What about doing leg curls, stiff legged deadlifts or hyperextensions or good mornings, bicep curls, forearm curls, and calf raises before bent over rows to prioritize the upper back and lats? You think it will work?[/quote]
As long as you NEVER EVER do rack pulls!