[quote]cueball wrote:
Oh, my bad. I must have misread your post where you said you had only done it for biceps. Sorry.[/quote]
NOW. That must have been over a decade ago when I needed to do that. It did the job and I felt the muscle working more.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]cueball wrote:
Oh, my bad. I must have misread your post where you said you had only done it for biceps. Sorry.[/quote]
NOW. That must have been over a decade ago when I needed to do that. It did the job and I felt the muscle working more.[/quote]
LOL
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]cueball wrote:
Oh, my bad. I must have misread your post where you said you had only done it for biceps. Sorry.[/quote]
NOW. That must have been over a decade ago when I needed to do that. It did the job and I felt the muscle working more.[/quote]
And now moving forwardā¦
thread just went into double OT
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
You are making up things I never said and trying to put words in my mouth.
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I am.
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Edited out the fluff.
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]MattyXL wrote:
I would think since you are pre-fatiguing your triās your chest is taking on more of the load, thus making it stronger as your tris are less involved[/quote]
If your chest and triās are dominant throughout bench that would mean on a max effort set that your chest shoulders and triās are already working at max capacity to get the weight up right? (hence, max effort set)
By pre fatiguing your shoulders and triās you would HAVE to bench less weight (obviously) and would be lowering the weight to a number that your chest could handle as the primary moverā¦ Yet the decreased amount of weight wouldnāt place MORE stress on your chest because in both scenarios your chest is working at max capacity.
In scenario A. Youāre fresh and benching 315x8 but when you pre fatigue your shoulders youāre only benching 245x6 (arbitrary numbers, I know) so what logic says that your chest is getting more stimulation from putting up 245x6 as the primary muscle vs 315x8 as a āsecondaryā muscle?
Donāt you think Matty?[/quote]
Excellent points Gregā¦and I will defer to you guys ultimately. However I still believe X and my approach deserve its merit, as since your tris and shoulders are weakened most of the stress will go onto your pecs. I can liken it to a Hammer Strength machine, I would think you are taking stabilizing muscles out of the picture to a degree so the chest gets better stimulation, in the same sense this is how I think of fatiguing your tris and shoulders so your chest gets the brunt of the action, as it really doesnt know how much weight its lifting.
Just more than one way to skin a cat.
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I see what youāre saying but I think the difference between pre fatiguing your stabilizers on bench and just doing HS machines is pretty big.
When doing HS machines you are taking some of the stabilizers out of the lift to a certain extent and, I agree, can out more stress on the target muscle. That is why they are a valuable tool for a BBerā¦
BUT the difference with regards to pre fatiguing is that you arenāt taking those stabilizers out of the lift you are just making them weaker/more tired. They are still needed for a free weights exercise like BB.
Definitely more than one way to skin a cat.[/quote]
I understand, comprehension fail on my part.[/quote]
Ahhhh no worries man. Just discussing opinions and ideas. Itās all good.
[quote]cueball wrote:
Oh, my bad. I must have misread your post where you said you had only done it for biceps. Sorry.[/quote]
Hahaha perfect.
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
The video above depicts Kai Greene, an unknown bodybuilder with no credentials or results to speak of, doinitwrong.[/quote]
Literally says āPre-exhaustā at 1:13, just so thereās no confusion, that even Kai is ādoing it wrongā.
This thread is almost as sad as some OHP video I saw once
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[quote]zraw wrote:
This thread is almost as sad as some OHP video I saw once[/quote]
you look like a fucking cartoon in your avi lol. random
[quote]zraw wrote:
This thread is almost as sad as some OHP video I saw once[/quote]
Sadder than walking lunges?
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Oh, look PX caused yet another retarded shit thread. What a shocker.
I think we should all put him on ignore for the sake of improving the quality of the forum. Who is with me? Even making fun of him is getting oldā¦
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Yates prefatiguinrong
I really liked his posts about bodyweight and lateral raise strength in the powerlifting forum, but Iāll agree that playing poke the bear has gotten old.
Iāll also miss his posts justifying heavier bodyweights in threads that make no mention of bodyweight.
but most of all Iāll miss his posts telling people theyāre developing mental problems
#doinitrong
this thread is ridiculous, lol.
for the record, Iāve been prefatiguing pretty much every muscle group before trying to do any exercise that requires āheavy weightā for the past year+ and it has been working out pretty well.
X 2 with Bug. Ridiculous thread.
I pre-exhaust many bodyparts with success. Utilizing a technique that drives blood into the muscles prior to doing heavy work has done more for me in the hypertrophy department than any other style.
<<<<Loves these threads. <3 <3 <3
2/3 shitstorm 1/3 good info. Perfect mixture.
As someone who has never used pre-exhaust(fatigue) Iāve learned a thing or two. Iāve always known how to perform the technique but never really understood the āwhyā behind it. Good stuff.
[quote]detazathoth wrote:
5 star thread. Would read again.[/quote]
x2
Can there ever be a thread in the BB section that doesnāt turn into a shitstorm? I guess thatās too much to ask.
But yea, weed thru the crap and there is some good info to be had here.