[quote]benjihkd wrote:
Hi,
you said your first cycle was when you were 22. What did that cycle look like? I’m 21, turning 22 in a couple of months and I’ve been thinking about trying my first cycle as well. I started lifting 1-1,5 years ago. My height is 183 cm (aprox. 6 feet). I started out weighing 68 kgs (150 lbs), now I’m weighing 75.6 (166 lbs). It was a lot of trial and error, looking up and trying out things. I could say that my first six months of training were not so productive since I didn’t really have an idea what I was doing but at this moment I know quite a bit more about nutrition, exercise and supplementation since I like to research these topics. It’s a wonderful journey and it has become my passion. Since recently I’ve also started reading up on steroids. (My english probably sounds a bit odd here and there but it’s not my native tongue, just so you know!)
(Just to give you an idea and create some context: my deadlift 1RM is 190 kg (418 lbs), 5-7 reps would be somewhere around 170 kg (374 lbs) I believe. squat 1RM: haven’t tried yet, though I do 7 reps with 120 kg (265 lbs) parallel, ass to grass would be a bit less. I have a rather developed chest, although my bench press isn’t where I’d want it to be. I could do 4-5 reps with 80 kg (176 lbs) but not one more. I’m working on this. BF should be somewhere around 12-13%, didn’t start cutting yet though…)
It’s been in my head for a while, and now that my gymbuddy is experimenting with steroids I must admit that taking the step seems a lot easier. Although one question, taking steroids at my age, won’t that have a negative impact on my t-levels later on in life since I’m still young and my body could still be developing?
My lifting partner (who is 24) started his first cycle recently ( I’m seeing him tomorrow so I’ll edit dosages/periods where needed): started with winstrol oral 50 mg a day for (no idea how much) weeks, then he started his injectable which was T-enanthate, 3x 1ml per week, dosage was 250 mg / ml so 750 mg a week. His last bottle is almost empty, after his last shot he’ll wait 10-12 days and use his PCT which is nolvadex (not sure about the dosage and period). Thoughts on his first cycle?
Injecting is something I’d have no problem doing, the only thing is, I still live with my parents and I know that if I leave the house I won’t be at ease because of the bottle and needles that will be there. My gymbuddy suggested that he keeps my gear at his place but this seems a bit tricky, what if for some reason we can’t meet and I miss my shot on the day I need it? So I’m discarding that idea and the more I read about dianabol the more I’m inclined to go for a dbol only cycle. I read that among dbol sides is water retention but that it can be countered using Arimidex while using dbol, and then use a PCT with nolvadex, not waiting with nolvadex for 10-12 days like my gymbuddy but starting right after my dbol runs out since it’s an oral cycle. Next year I should be living alone so having injectables then should be an option. I could wait untill then using gear but the itch is there and not sure if I can still wait another year to scratch.
What do you think about the dbol/arimidex + nolvadex cycle? What dosage should do you recommend for somebody with my stats? From what I’ve read I have the idea that people say if you’re going to do it, do it right from the start and don’t do an oral only cycle because it’s not worth the liver damage. But can the liver damage be “safe” if using a liver detoxifier and having a clean diet + no smoking/drinking/drugs ?
and what about supplementation while using gear? Keep using creatine/beta-alanine/citrulline and having a pre-workout or lay off it for some time?
I still have a lot to learn. Constructive criticism is more than welcome. Thanks in advance! [/quote]
First of all, you’ve only been training a year and a half… I am not your dad but if this is actually your passion and it’s something you want to do long term then you really need to wait for a few for years and save this as a weapon. Your numbers are decent but you can increase these just from longer in the gym and proper supplementation.
I started at 22 but I was training since i was a teenager in various strength sports. I had well over 5 years in the gym before I even considered it.
I really don’t feel like its a good time for you to start from what I’ve read. You are right, it could very well interfere with your natural test levels and progress in the future… It’s not a wise idea at this point in time. You don’t want to be one of those guys who relies on drugs rather than training, you’ll look and feel like a piece of shit as time goes by.
DO NOT do an only dbol cycle, you will only look puffy and arimidex won’t help you here. I understand you’ve read a lot and tried to do some research but it’s not the time to make a decision on a cycle. As I read your post the only thing that comes to mind is that you aren’t ready, give yourself a good 5 years in the gym. You have so much room to advance naturally. It’s not worth losing your home over, trust me!
I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE THE ITCH TO DO THIS, IM ALL ABOUT THE USE OF STEROIDS BUT ONLY ON CASES WHERE IT MAKES SENSE AND TO ME THIS DOESNT.
I can see that you are enthusiastic about this and want to learn, and I do want to help you. Post your current diet and training program here along with pictures(no face) and I’ll help you to reach your potential without using gear. Whatever you do, don’t mimic what your friend is doing its all wrong and will do much more harm than good. Stick around here, you’ll learn a lot more.