Q&A with Shadow Pro

Pharma
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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:
Possibly a ridiculous question, but you might have an answer since you’re a long-time experienced user and actual bodybuilder.
Is there actually a way to tell if someone’s natural or on something? Any tell-tale signs or patterns that you yourself have noticed at all? [/quote]

Absolutely, I can tell from a mile away. The look that you get is a harder, fuller & grainier look even when the bodyfat isn’t very low. Often a bloated face and everything else from water retention as well.

Long term use of GH will change the appearance of finger and toenails… Hard to explain, it’s like short and wide nails, perhaps from overall increase in the size of hands.

So many people claim to be natural, and it’s always funny how that’s the same natty guy that’s going around asking for juice for his “friend”

I can guarantee you 110% that none of the top Olympic athletes are natural… I know a lot of them personally and there is very sophisticated ways to pass drug test. The human body is not supposed to run 100m in 9.5s, lift thousands of pounds, or pack around muscle like Ronnie Coleman. If only Marvel was reality… Until then we’ll have to keep using performance enhancing drugs to keep up.
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Interesting, so that would mean that there’s no way in hell that folks like John Cena are natural?

guy swears up and down that he’s never touched anything, but then again, they all do that

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What do you think about guys like Steve cook? Good for the sport? Is he natural? General thoughts

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[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:
Possibly a ridiculous question, but you might have an answer since you’re a long-time experienced user and actual bodybuilder.
Is there actually a way to tell if someone’s natural or on something? Any tell-tale signs or patterns that you yourself have noticed at all? [/quote]

Absolutely, I can tell from a mile away. The look that you get is a harder, fuller & grainier look even when the bodyfat isn’t very low. Often a bloated face and everything else from water retention as well.

Long term use of GH will change the appearance of finger and toenails… Hard to explain, it’s like short and wide nails, perhaps from overall increase in the size of hands.

So many people claim to be natural, and it’s always funny how that’s the same natty guy that’s going around asking for juice for his “friend”

I can guarantee you 110% that none of the top Olympic athletes are natural… I know a lot of them personally and there is very sophisticated ways to pass drug test. The human body is not supposed to run 100m in 9.5s, lift thousands of pounds, or pack around muscle like Ronnie Coleman. If only Marvel was reality… Until then we’ll have to keep using performance enhancing drugs to keep up.
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Interesting, so that would mean that there’s no way in hell that folks like John Cena are natural?

guy swears up and down that he’s never touched anything, but then again, they all do that [/quote]

Have you ever seen Cena before he got into wrestling? He was absolutely a fucking freak a good 20lbs of lean mass bigger than he is now. He,may not be on much now but he used to be with out a doubt.

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Can we please not turn this into a is he natural or not thread, who gives a shit

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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

  1. How does one go about testing the waters with tren? Just running it at a low dose?

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Okay thanks.

Question: How did you stay on when you traveled internationally? How did you fly with gear?

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[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
When did you first notice that you had the genetic potential to become a pro? Were you always naturally well-built? Did you respond to training better than others? Did you respond to drugs better than others? Or was it a combination?

What is synthol use among the pros like?

Thanks[/quote]

I don’t think I am any kind of genetic freak, I don’t consider that I’m any kind of superior being by any means(I’m not lucky enough to be a Phil Heath or Dexter Jackson). As a kid I was always competing in explosive sports (track and field, soccer, football, mma) I’m a mix between an ectomorph/mesomorph (leaning more to the ecto) so with saying that I’m not naturally built.

I Respond very well to drugs, like I said before my dosages are very moderate in comparison to others at my level and I experience the same results with little or no side effects.

One of my good traits would be that I am able to respond so well to the drugs without the side effects and since my genetics aren’t the best out there I consider myself very lucky for this.

Synthol use amongst the pros is definitely existing… I have never used it personally. Some do a very good job at hiding it and others not so much. I think you would be surprised to know the guys who are actually doing this and if I had to put a percentage on it I’d say 65% yes and 35% no (don’t quote me on this) after I learned that it is used by so many guys I think it’s not necessarily a bad thing if done correctly but it’s not for me… I prefer to have real muscle and not oil filled muscle bellies.

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[quote]DoctorJekyll wrote:
Shadow what do you think of pros such as Ben Pakulski who favour a scientific and very accurate approach when it comes to training and nutrition, as opposed to those who grind it out with sheer work such as Branch Warren or Dorian Yates? Do you think that a guy like Ben is the future where everything is done “optimally” in terms of science?[/quote]

I know both of them very well ( Branch & Ben) and before science Ben trains and has always trained his ass off, he squats and dead lifts close to 700lbs for reps so he’s a very hard worker. I’ve trained legs with him before and he’s moving very fast and still keeping heavy weight, he works his ass off and has added a scientific approach to it.

I think the golden rule would be to take a combination of hard training and science together. The science has A LOT to offer bodybuilders and strength athletes in general and there’s a lot of great researchers out there that create studies that you are able to take valuable information from. But as good as science is, without putting everything into your training then no research will help you get huge… It’s the base of bodybuilding(or any other competitive sport) always has been and always will be.

The way Branch is training at this point of his career is due to injuries, just because you see him doing partial ranges movements doesn’t mean it’s always been like that. When you’re doing sports at this level, injuries aren’t a question of “If” but a question of “when”. He’s had many reconstructive surgeries that interfere with his training now but he did train much “cleaner” before the injuries and now he’s working around them and doing a great job.

I don’t know whether Ben is the future of the sport because I’ve seen a lot of people with better genetics doing things that are far less optimal and getting better results. For me, the optimal approach is to read the science and consider what it has to offer and then take it to the gym and try it (without forgetting about hard training and relying solely on this)

The problem with relying on science is that I see kids in the gym doing “fancy” things such as wrapping their quads and do occlusion training as their main part of the workout and completely neglecting squats and other basics. Always remember that without the hard work and dedication in the gym, no science will help you.

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What is your opinion on politics in bodybuilding competitions? Is it over exaggerated or ruining the sport in your opinion?

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[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:
Possibly a ridiculous question, but you might have an answer since you’re a long-time experienced user and actual bodybuilder.
Is there actually a way to tell if someone’s natural or on something? Any tell-tale signs or patterns that you yourself have noticed at all? [/quote]

Absolutely, I can tell from a mile away. The look that you get is a harder, fuller & grainier look even when the bodyfat isn’t very low. Often a bloated face and everything else from water retention as well.

Long term use of GH will change the appearance of finger and toenails… Hard to explain, it’s like short and wide nails, perhaps from overall increase in the size of hands.

So many people claim to be natural, and it’s always funny how that’s the same natty guy that’s going around asking for juice for his “friend”

I can guarantee you 110% that none of the top Olympic athletes are natural… I know a lot of them personally and there is very sophisticated ways to pass drug test. The human body is not supposed to run 100m in 9.5s, lift thousands of pounds, or pack around muscle like Ronnie Coleman. If only Marvel was reality… Until then we’ll have to keep using performance enhancing drugs to keep up.
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Interesting, so that would mean that there’s no way in hell that folks like John Cena are natural?

guy swears up and down that he’s never touched anything, but then again, they all do that [/quote]

If he admitted it in public, he wouldn’t have a job.

I post under this name, if it was my real name I would probably be banned or place last in every show.

Think about Ben Johnson, Carl Lewis, Lance Armstrong, a whole national weightlifting team in the Olympics. If the guys who are already at the top are getting caught then of course any of the athletes trying to catch up will use anything they can to get there as well.

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[quote]steegerson wrote:
What do you think about guys like Steve cook? Good for the sport? Is he natural? General thoughts [/quote]

I have no idea who that is…

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[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Can we please not turn this into a is he natural or not thread, who gives a shit[/quote]

I agree! In a world that men’s physique competitors are using ridiculous amounts, I think it’s a pretty irrelevant questions these days.

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[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:

  1. How does one go about testing the waters with tren? Just running it at a low dose?

[/quote]

Okay thanks.

Question: How did you stay on when you traveled internationally? How did you fly with gear?[/quote]

After doing it for so many years, I have connections worldwide… There’s ways to travel with it, but it’s too risky for me nowadays.

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[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
What is your opinion on politics in bodybuilding competitions? Is it over exaggerated or ruining the sport in your opinion?[/quote]

I’ll be getting into this very soon. I have a lot to say about this subject, far too much for one post. Keep following and you’ll see what I have to say about the subject.

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which is your opinion about the high frequency in training?

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[quote]Steve Rogers wrote:
This is so stupid[/quote]

you of ALL people should be ok with this, Rogers…

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What is your view on oral only cycles for people looking to lean out for summer? (non competing) I have run Var only and been fine that kept most of my gains as well with clomid/Hcgenerate PCT. But is it something I can do every summer? or should add to it with an injectable/test base?

Thanks!

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Great to read this, I have a Q, i used insulin all ready, i can say is the best anabolic hormone, with amaizng fullnes of muscle and you really look great if you have a low % of body fat, but what if i use it and i have a % around 12? wouldnt it make me fatter?
The other q is i can use it only on weekends (fr to sunday) because is the day of the week i train in the morning, is this ok? or wont get any benefits,
regards

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What would be your honest reccommendation to someone wanting to be on his/her best achievable physique regarding using (a little or a lot) but not really interested in competing? To use or not to use, that is the question.

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You mentioned doing regular blood tests. Where do you go for the blood tests and what kind of blood tests do you run? Is there a specialized panel for steroid users?

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I am a 45 yo getting back into shape. I’ve been doing Crossfit type training for the past 7 months. Can you recommend the best way to lose fat while preserving muscle? Also what would be the best non Rx method?