[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
What is your cycle history? how lean you are right now? Yes therre is a lot of logic in what your coach gave you but it’s really depends on your cycle history in order to know if this will work for you or not.[/quote]
First Cycle.[/quote]
If that’s the case, go with the lowest dosages possible…you will see great gains.
I would do tren-a, mast-p and test-p at 300mg a week (200 might be a bit on the low side). I would change the compounds over a longer period of time and start at lower dosages.
Only when you stop gaining (get opinions from others) then it’s time to start uping the dosage very slowly. Your coach seems like he knows his shit if this is what he gave you, so listen to him. The longer you can keep the dosages low and keep improving you will be saving weapons for later because you have no where to go but up.
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Thats the plan we’ve been working with. Started with 200mg week then upped to 300 and gains started coming. Appreciate your time.
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
What is your cycle history? how lean you are right now? Yes therre is a lot of logic in what your coach gave you but it’s really depends on your cycle history in order to know if this will work for you or not.[/quote]
First Cycle.[/quote]
If that’s the case, go with the lowest dosages possible…you will see great gains.
I would do tren-a, mast-p and test-p at 300mg a week (200 might be a bit on the low side). I would change the compounds over a longer period of time and start at lower dosages.
Only when you stop gaining (get opinions from others) then it’s time to start uping the dosage very slowly. Your coach seems like he knows his shit if this is what he gave you, so listen to him. The longer you can keep the dosages low and keep improving you will be saving weapons for later because you have no where to go but up.
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Thats the plan we’ve been working with. Started with 200mg week then upped to 300 and gains started coming. Appreciate your time.
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That’s why I’m here for.
keep me posted on how things are going. good luck!
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
Most sponsored athletes are paid to give you a load of BS about their supplement companies(as if m-tech built Phil Heath, HA!)
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I’ve heard a lot of sponsored athletes will take the free supplments from their sponsors then turn a profit on it by throwing it on eBay.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
Thanks for verifying his authenticity Chris.
How does one go about testing the waters with tren? Just running it at a low dose?
I’m assuming you blast and cruise? Do you ever cruise with anything other than test?
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1.Just use tren-a and start with about 50mg every other day, if you are ok with that and you have enough experience then you could bump it up to 50mg everyday and then go up from there. While using short esters never go more than 1 day between shots, or else it’s not as stable in your blood.
If you look at my post about PCT you will what I use. I gave a detailed answer about how i do this.
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
Most sponsored athletes are paid to give you a load of BS about their supplement companies(as if m-tech built Phil Heath, HA!)
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I’ve heard a lot of sponsored athletes will take the free supplments from their sponsors then turn a profit on it by throwing it on eBay.
Never actually using their stuff to begin with.[/quote]
I’ve heard these stories as well and this is why I decided to post here because I’ve always willingly used Biotest products throughout my career regardless of my current sponsors.
I’ve found that the combo of gear with Biotest products is insane, they enhance each other… Here are a few examples that I use on the regular
10iu of Humalog pre workout and 3 servings of Plazma intraworkout… Gave me the best pump and gains to date. I’ve used all other intraworkout and nothing else came close without making me sick or wanting to shit my pants in a workout, lol. (Karobolyn, glycofuse, true nutrition and so on)
Earlier this year I tried the Micro-PA because I read so much hype on here and when I combined it with halotestin in my prep and it made me harder and my strength didn’t go down until 2 weeks prior to my show.
I can’t speak for others but I’ve alwAys been a big believer in quality supplementation and the trick is to find a company that offers supplements that include quality ingredients that aren’t packed full of crap. A good quality supplement can enhance your gear use in unimaginable ways. I’m guessing the guys sell their product so they can actually buy more juice or quality supps.
Just wanted to say thanks for doing this, I have a million more questions so don’t go anywhere lol, here’s one…
What is your opinion on ‘burning out receptors’ and ‘oversaturated receptors’. Is that the reason for rotating compounds or is it just a myth in your opinion?
And one more I just thought of, are there any myostatin reducing supplements or perhaps peptides that you know of that are worth looking into?
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
Just wanted to say thanks for doing this, I have a million more questions so don’t go anywhere lol, here’s one…
What is your opinion on ‘burning out receptors’ and ‘oversaturated receptors’. Is that the reason for rotating compounds or is it just a myth in your opinion?
And one more I just thought of, are there any myostatin reducing supplements or perhaps peptides that you know of that are worth looking into?[/quote]
I don’t plan on going anywhere anytime soon… So ask away! I am here to share knowledge of what pros are doing and what others “should” be doing rather than mimicking cycles that are of no benefit to them.
It’s hard to give a straight answer as there’s no evidence and actually research on any side of these ideas. But from experience of mine and others I have found that with short esters you want to switch them around every 6-10weeks (10 would be pushing it) and with long esters every 12-16 weeks. I feel like when I get to the end of these time frames I need to up the dose to get the same effects and then after years and years of doing cycles the dosages kept having to be increased in order to see the same results. I’m talking both mentally and physically.
I’ll tell you this… Every year I’m taking 2-3 months off each year I feel that when I come back on the effects are much more noticeable and profound. I have a client who was just off for 8 months and finally came back on and he’s much better than ever… Bigger, better skin, leaner and the highest bodyweight ever. Nothing else changed besides this time off. I tend to believe there is something in the assumption that you can over saturate your receptors so switching the compounds in the time frames I gave you is a good ideas. Also, taking time off is highly recommended(not necessarily a long time, even 6-8 weeks can do the trick… You won’t lose gains and will come back stronger)
I honestly believe that it’s better to put your money into GH, quality oils and orals. It’s probably not worth your time because the chance that you are finding something good is rare because there’s a lot of shit out there. I’ve tried a lot of peptides and such and whenever my colleagues have tested anything in the university research labs, it’s always something else. (One time I had igf that was actually sucralose… From one of these so called reputable sites). There is science behind raw cocoa powder reducing myostatin inhibitor(obviously very minimal) but anything is better than nothing!
[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
There is science behind raw cocoa powder reducing myostatin inhibitor(obviously very minimal) but anything is better than nothing!
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[quote]Shadow Pro wrote:
There is science behind raw cocoa powder reducing myostatin inhibitor(obviously very minimal) but anything is better than nothing!
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Possibly a ridiculous question, but you might have an answer since you’re a long-time experienced user and actual bodybuilder.
Is there actually a way to tell if someone’s natural or on something? Any tell-tale signs or patterns that you yourself have noticed at all?
What are your thoughts on AI use for a beginner on 500 mg or less of test E per week? Some say not to use one, some say to use it… I am using 0.5 adex every three days just to be safe. Also have aromasin. I noticed when I was taking EOD, I felt like I needed a wheelchair my knees hurt so bad. I know everyone is different, just wondering what your thoughts were.
[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:
Possibly a ridiculous question, but you might have an answer since you’re a long-time experienced user and actual bodybuilder.
Is there actually a way to tell if someone’s natural or on something? Any tell-tale signs or patterns that you yourself have noticed at all? [/quote]
The muscle mania guys to me seem like they’re on something, i know MM is tested but im unsure of to what/how they test for. Ulysis, Simeon Panda, Chul Soon. Thoughts?
When did you first notice that you had the genetic potential to become a pro? Were you always naturally well-built? Did you respond to training better than others? Did you respond to drugs better than others? Or was it a combination?
[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:
Possibly a ridiculous question, but you might have an answer since you’re a long-time experienced user and actual bodybuilder.
Is there actually a way to tell if someone’s natural or on something? Any tell-tale signs or patterns that you yourself have noticed at all? [/quote]
Absolutely, I can tell from a mile away. The look that you get is a harder, fuller & grainier look even when the bodyfat isn’t very low. Often a bloated face and everything else from water retention as well.
Long term use of GH will change the appearance of finger and toenails… Hard to explain, it’s like short and wide nails, perhaps from overall increase in the size of hands.
So many people claim to be natural, and it’s always funny how that’s the same natty guy that’s going around asking for juice for his “friend”
I can guarantee you 110% that none of the top Olympic athletes are natural… I know a lot of them personally and there is very sophisticated ways to pass drug test. The human body is not supposed to run 100m in 9.5s, lift thousands of pounds, or pack around muscle like Ronnie Coleman. If only Marvel was reality… Until then we’ll have to keep using performance enhancing drugs to keep up.
[quote]MalignantTyrant wrote:
Possibly a ridiculous question, but you might have an answer since you’re a long-time experienced user and actual bodybuilder.
Is there actually a way to tell if someone’s natural or on something? Any tell-tale signs or patterns that you yourself have noticed at all? [/quote]
The muscle mania guys to me seem like they’re on something, i know MM is tested but im unsure of to what/how they test for. Ulysis, Simeon Panda, Chul Soon. Thoughts?[/quote]
Most of them are getting a very high HRT dose from a doctor and those who don’t go that route they just know how to pass drug tests. Athletes are doing this every year in all sports, I’ve seen it with my own eyes. Also, like anything that involves money it also involves dirty politics so if they really want to catch you, they will! But of you are a wwe superstar making them lots of money then it’s likely they’d turn a blind eye to it.
They test for whatever they want… It’s a private company but they always test for recreational drugs and random steroid tests. Most of these guys are using GH, they get a lot more injuries than you think and they need it for recovery
[quote]Mc777 wrote:
What are your thoughts on AI use for a beginner on 500 mg or less of test E per week? Some say not to use one, some say to use it… I am using 0.5 adex every three days just to be safe. Also have aromasin. I noticed when I was taking EOD, I felt like I needed a wheelchair my knees hurt so bad. I know everyone is different, just wondering what your thoughts were. [/quote]
It really depends on the person, but for a beginner I would usually suggest 10mg of nolvadex everyday. Honestly, if you’re not prone to gyno with this kind of dosage you probably won’t need it at all.
Arimidex isn’t a bad choice either… What you are doing will also work well.
Shadow what do you think of pros such as Ben Pakulski who favour a scientific and very accurate approach when it comes to training and nutrition, as opposed to those who grind it out with sheer work such as Branch Warren or Dorian Yates? Do you think that a guy like Ben is the future where everything is done “optimally” in terms of science?