Q & A, PW Style

yeah, very cool before and after pic indeed.

when i said i am too fat i meant that i am too fat to know which part of my body is going to prove the most stubborn at dropping fat. right now there are so many candidates… upper arms… belly… hips… ass… not quite sure what the winner will be :slight_smile:

or maybe some women don’t have any area in particular and they find themselves dropping it more uniformly? don’t know. pretty sure i could see (only just) two abs and my upper arms were still pretty flabby… damn upper arms :frowning:

[quote]buckeye girl wrote:

And for the record, I also have saddle bags and cellulite. Its only a little lump at the top of my hips and a slight ripple just below my glutes. SH claims he can’t see what I’m talking about, but I know its there and it drives me nuts. Gaining muscle and losing fat (surprise!) has helped with both issues though.

Cal, I don’t really have anything to add since all the ass building advice has been covered, but I really don’t think yours looks nearly as bad as you think. You’ve created a very nice hourglass silhouette. [/quote]

ditto.

I also have fucking cellulite and large varicose veins on the back of my thighs - all of that flys under the webcam radar, but in sunlight looks like “complete shit”. - i actually think lifting has made the veins a lot worse/darker, but maybe I just notice it more cuz im looking. oh and I also notice what I think is cellulite on my triceps for the first time.

but all of this is just part of being a woman too-we have a higher body fat content cuz we are human incubators. and thinking it’s bad is just buying into good marketing by companies that invent insecurities for you to spend money on ‘correcting’ all the imaginary things wrong with you…end rant.

but all of this is just part of being a woman too-we have a higher body fat content cuz we are human incubators. and thinking it’s bad is just buying into good marketing by companies that invent insecurities for you to spend money on ‘correcting’ all the imaginary things wrong with you…

sigh. so true.

it is really good to talk frankly about this stuff instead of only getting the airbrushed totally unrealistic image. i mean… if fitness / figure / bodybuilding competitors have cellulite in their off season then, well, i’m not so concerned about myself having cellulite anymore.

[quote]alexus wrote:

but all of this is just part of being a woman too-we have a higher body fat content cuz we are human incubators. and thinking it’s bad is just buying into good marketing by companies that invent insecurities for you to spend money on ‘correcting’ all the imaginary things wrong with you…

sigh. so true.

it is really good to talk frankly about this stuff instead of only getting the airbrushed totally unrealistic image. i mean… if fitness / figure / bodybuilding competitors have cellulite in their off season then, well, i’m not so concerned about myself having cellulite anymore.[/quote]

this is why I think it’s so important to have a performance based program/motivation style - if you’re going by looks, you’re never going to weightlift yourself into looking like an airbrushed fitness model, cuz it’s not fucking real.

this is why i think it’s good you do power lifting/ o-lifting over fucking figure.

even though I like to look at figure model pictures, I know it’s a temp state of extreme diet/spray tan.

[quote]Hallowed wrote:
It is possible go make strength gains while on a deficit for a period of time but not indefinately.

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I agree. Once your glycogen stores are used up, its really hard to get your regular weights in motion, never mind PR weights. One thing that you could try is a trick to get your GH up via insulin manipulation. Don’t eat any carbs until about 30 minutes before your workout, then eat about 30 grams of high glycemic. Right after your workout, eat another round of high glycemic carbs along with your protein shake.

I debate whether to do another bodybuilding show or not. I did really well at the amateur level and earned a pro card. I did my first pro show a couple months back and didn’t place. I asked what I could do to improve and the first thing out of one of the judges’ mouths was, “get breast implants”. Yeah, I would love implants, but I don’t have 6-8 grand lying around. Powerlifting, especially raw is pretty cut and dry.

And yeah, during the off season I hate my body and have cellulite. While in season, I hate my body less, don’t have cellulite, instead its loose skin from loosing the cellulite. Thats why a lot of girls use hemoroid cream on their ass and thighs, to tighten up, dehydration, tanner helps, and of course moving and posing in such a way where the loose skin tightens up (i.e. the back relaxed pose in bodybuilding and figure…why do you think we arch our backs and stick our butts out, its to tighten up the loose skin or defy butt gravity)

[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
GO HALL!!!

Maym- I’m interested in this NOS stuff. Probably best to let the whores moaning settle down first, ya?(hormones)
:)[/quote]

NOS or nitric oxide stimulation causes the blood vessels to swell, thus allowing more ATP to get to the muscle. Its in most pre-workout drinks or you can take beta alanine which does basically the same thing.

Maym- that makes sense. Will have to try the 30g high glycemic carbs before and after. Plus, when you’re dieting, that’s encouragement to lift.

Theperfectdrug and Alexus- I read once that lifting increases the appearance of cellulite. Basically, we have cellulite because our skin has differing levels of thickness, allowing the fat to poke through like playdo through a cheese cloth. When you have no muscle, it’s like pressing the playdo cheese cloth against a pillow; whereas when you have muscle it’s like pressing it against a steel bar.

[quote]Cal Jones wrote:
She has a fantastic arse in the second picture. Would she care to share how she got it into that shape? I’d be really grateful if you could find out and post or PM the details.[/quote]

Well, we met through body-for-life - that is where she first lost the chub from that initial picture. After that, however, she hooked up with trainers and so her specific workouts are secret. I know she does a lot of stepups, step mill, and lunges, but I couldn’t tell you the specifics and she’s not allowed to. She was originally with Carla Sanchez out of Boulder, and now I believe she’s with Tony something from Dreambodies consulting (online).

I tried a month with Tony and it was all bb-centric (like, high rep deadlifts) and didn’t really work with my PLing. Of course, if I’d stuck with him and not decided to stay squishy (and decided to stay married)… :wink:

ironcross - is it going to mess with your head when I say I do most of my workouts fasted? Heh. I do have glutamine in water first thing, though.
I think I will start using my Beta Alanine again, though. I have some sitting there - the problem is it makes me itch like a crack whore.

PMPM - no worries. I’m not planning on competing; I was just interested. I’ve seen some of the pre-contenst workouts figure girls do and I don’t quite hate my arse enough to do two hours of cardio a day, heh.

PerfectDrug - yeah I have a slight cellulite thing going on on my triceps too. Noticed it a couple of years ago. I put it down to the fact I’m over 40. It is only visible if I stand under an overhead light and do the side triceps pose, which isn’t something that happens in public so I’m not going to sweat it. I’m sure it’s getting better with the diet anyway.

Maym - I was thinking your avatar looked nice simply because you don’t have the implants. I am not keen on implants to begin with but when bodyfat levels are low and you can see the outline of them, it looks disgusting.

Cal- lol. I don’t think my head couold get any more messed with regarding your diet and workouts.

Also, I should amend what I wrote above by adding that if you lose the fat, obviously the problem goes away. It seemed so obvious when I wrote above that I didn’t mention it, but looking back, it kind of seems like I’m saying that lifting creates cellulite.

I tend to think that cellulite is a skin problem rather than a fat problem and is largely genetic. Some fat people don’t have any and plenty of thin people do. I have some on my outer thighs but if I pull the skin upwards (as if I’m giving myself a temporary thigh lift) it goes away. Obviously, losing fat helps a lot but it doesn’t fix it for everyone. Nor does liposuction, from what I’ve heard.

completely agree Cal. A friend sent me a picture of a biopsy of cellulite once a couple of years back (don’t know who they took a chunk out of but it was interesting), alot of pockets of fat were between various fibrous connective tissues, that pulled down on the skin. And of course we females are so lucky to have connective tissue patterns that lean more towards the lovely cellulite look.

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:

[quote]Cal Jones wrote:

Of course, if I’d stuck with him and not decided to stay squishy (and decided to stay married)… ;-)[/quote]

Wut?

what about rolling?? can you roll cellulite with a lacrosse ball or something?

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:

[quote]Cal Jones wrote:

Of course, if I’d stuck with him and not decided to stay squishy (and decided to stay married)… ;-)[/quote]

Wut?[/quote]

Yeah, that phrasing didn’t work right. PMPM on a bb diet = raging bitch and very unhappy husband. Shredded abs were not worth it!

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:

[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:

[quote]Cal Jones wrote:

Of course, if I’d stuck with him and not decided to stay squishy (and decided to stay married)… ;-)[/quote]

Wut?[/quote]

Yeah, that phrasing didn’t work right. PMPM on a bb diet = raging bitch and very unhappy husband. Shredded abs were not worth it![/quote]

Okay thank you. That clears it up. I’m glad I read it wrong :slight_smile:

x seventeen what PMPM says. I’m not married but fuck being super cut all the time. Its a full time job and turns very easily into an obsession for me at least.

very limiting too if you don’t hang out with others who are in on the lean team too. people get turned off and sometimes really hurt when you avoid social stuff that involves food which is a vast majority of regular social gatherings. Moms hate it.

OH and as for what Bre says–varicose veins for me have popped up much much more with lifting etc. so much of it is genetic though, so who knows if its progression of time or from lifting. i kinda think its kinda badass to have spider veins on my ribs and chest :slight_smile: legs…no much. but they can fix them if you ever want to get rid of them.

i think cellulite is kinda a gentic thing too. I got it and have had it throughout various wt’s and bf %. whateve and strech marks since i was fifteen.

I tend to think that problems resulting from certain foods are only an issue when you eat the same thing everyday. If you buy different veggies every time you go to the market and don’t have thyroid issues, I really doubt any are going to pop up from not cooking them.

here are some not really important questions/observations:

  1. I notice that as of 4-5 months ago, (correllating to increase in strength gains) I SMELL LIKE ASS! When I used to sweat, it was largely inert… but now i fucking stink like a gypsy.

  2. I feel like shit at the end of the day - headache, like I have a cold, nasty. Then I go to the gym, and it’s a fucking miracle, i feel 100% better, it’s really crazy.

  • anyone have the same experience?
  • any nerds have a biochemical explanation for this shit?

tpd