Thanks for the help you guys. My BB row form is solid (I think). But I kinda cheat a little bit on the dbs.
[quote]dan81 wrote:
Zep,
That’s a decent BB row and DB row compared to your bench (assuming good form).
Tom63,
Just wanted to make sure there weren’t any glaring differences between his bench and rowing strength. If he had said 135lb bb row for 3 reps - then there is an issue.
BTW, do you think that one’s BB row and DB row strength should be greater than your BB bench and DB bench strength? (raw) Intuitively, my guess is that rowing should be greater provided you have a strong enough lower back. I know personally, my DB row strength has increased quite fast after really concentrating on it. A few years ago, I could DB bench substantially more than I could DB row.[/quote]
I think the bench would be ahead of the game. I can pendlay row in good form app 265 x 6. I could raw bench more than that easily. Dumbell rows I can’t say because I can only get up to 125 on my powerblocks and I could do 12 or so easily.
I don’t do dumbell presses because of a torn labrum, but balance becomes an issue there.
You can’t really compare them to well do to leverages, other muscle groups that come into play such as the lower back on barbell rows. I can do more on dumbell rows than dumbell ebnches and more on regular benches than regular rows.
My strength is fairly well balanced, with just shy of a 600 pounds deadlift, so I really don’t lack back strength. I can 2 board raw app 320 or so for 6 ( torn labrum again). It’s not feeling bad, but i try hard to prevent reaggravation.
UPDATE:
I really hurt myself worse today: No benching for the rest of this week and next. I might do some DB inclines. The pain happens when I do overheads now too. It hurt to pick up 10 pound plates
My upper body days will look like:
Tuesday:
DB row
facepulls
chins
tri extentions
Friday:
BB row
facepulls
chins
Tricep extentions
I was benching today and I stalled out on 215 in the middle of the lift, got a spot and felt the most pain in my delt I’v ever had. The entire ball of the delt was spazzing. Argh.
Yes you need to stop benching for a while. Depending on how much damage you did today, you might need to go see a doctor.
Taking two weeks off will not hurt your max, if anything it might go up. Check out the article “8 weeks to monster shoulders” If you have to keep pressing do Db floor press with a neutral grip.
Also, you might want to think about whether your deadlift is affecting it at all. People always assume the problem is pressing movements, but I tend to notice some of my shoulder problems after heavy DL days.
Hope its nothing serious, and if all else fails, go see a good doc.
[quote]dankid wrote:
Yes you need to stop benching for a while. Depending on how much damage you did today, you might need to go see a doctor.
Taking two weeks off will not hurt your max, if anything it might go up. Check out the article “8 weeks to monster shoulders” If you have to keep pressing do Db floor press with a neutral grip.
Also, you might want to think about whether your deadlift is affecting it at all. People always assume the problem is pressing movements, but I tend to notice some of my shoulder problems after heavy DL days.
Hope its nothing serious, and if all else fails, go see a good doc.[/quote]
Thanks, I’ll give it these next 2 weeks and we’ll see what happens.
Good luck, im having similar problems too, but no pain. I really think mine might be bicep tendonitis or impingement from deadlifting and snatching a lot. Hope it gets better, let us know.
I’m sure you’ve heard this a million times, but for now:
-Don’t do anything that hurts.
-Ice your shoulders at least twice a day for 20 mins everyday and take a shitload of Advil to reduce inflammation.
-Try neutral grip DB pressing or pushups for horizontal pressing movements.
-Lay off all overhead work for now.
-Stretch the pecs, lats, anterior delts, levator scapulae.
-Use dynamic warmups from Inside-Out.
-Do lots of rowing, scap pushups, and face pulls to strengthen your scapula retraction.
-Strengthen the serratus anterior and the external rotators (teres minor and infraspinatus).
-Improve soft tissue quality by doing foam rolling and GET ART!! It really works. It’s saved my shoulders.