So I’ve been recently completed the maximum muscle mass program and have been looking for something new. There’s a lot on tnation about this push pull split so I’ve been trying that out but wondering what your thoughts were on it for building mass and strength. I have also been looking at the “Built for Battle” and “Strength and Size” programs but need some direction on where to go.
Which one will help build size and strength better? I understand frequency over volume, but I can’t say I’m seeing the same results from the push-pull as I did with the more conventional “maximum muscle mass” program. Should I just stick it out for a little longer and see what comes of it? I’ve been on this push/pull for about a month now.
Just give each 12 weeks. Worst case scenario is you lift weights and keep getting better.
If you lift for 30 years you will have plenty of time to try out various splits and styles
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Yeah try different things so you’ll know what works best for you
Ppl hit everything 1x weekly and get bigger, ppl hit everything 2x a week and get bigger and so on. Just lift stay cinsistant and figure out what works best for you.
There’s so many free plans on this sight you literally have endless possibilities. If you have a short attention span then do 4-6 week plans. If you don’t have ADD then hit 12 week plans.
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A month isn’t enough time to determine whether or not a program is working or not, IMO. But to add to what everyone else is saying, just do what you enjoy. If you end up getting similar results from PPL but you don’t enjoy it as much, then don’t do it. At the end of the day, (most) of us just lift weights for fun after work or after school. If it’s not enjoyable, it’s more than likely that you’re wasting your time. Find something you like is my only advice.
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Everything works, but differently for different people. Honestly if you are doubting a program I’d do something else. Because doubt in a program is the mother of failure. The most important thing to get gainsis to train really hard. And if you doubt, subconsciously you won’t be training as hard because your motivation will be lower.
Yes, science is important, but motivation and training hard is “importanter”
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I’ve found recently that if I stick with a program for two long I just start sucking. My motivation keeps going down. Recently started doing 4 week programs and I keep improving all the time. Just finished with a 4 week thing where I took my front squat from 135kg to 150kg x2, without much struggle. Probably could have kept going, but the variation keeps me going. The 4 weeks before that was push-pull and I saw some major improvements in delt size and overhead strength.
On the flip side, I seriously want to improve my deadlift, so I keep conventional deadlift in any program I do and just keep changing frequency, volume and intensity. And thats worked too.
I agree with CT. Choose a program you like and train hard, eat well and rest well.
Different studies say one program is better than another so there is no best program.
I’m the same way. That is normally common with what I call the 2A neurotype. Their key variable is variation. And as I said many times, the MOST important thing to get good results is to train hard. And to do that you need motivation. Anything that keeps your motivation high, even if it’s not “optimal” on paper, will give you better results than doing the best program in the world with average/low motivation.
In my life I never really followed a program, at least not for longer than 3 weeks. And I did okay
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