How is going to 50% of failure going to increase GDollars’ number of bodyweight pull up reps?
Are you seriously suggesting that if one can only do 4 pullups he should only be doing 2 as many times as he can do per day and that magically he will soon be able to do significantly more than that?
I don’t think so.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
How is going to 50% of failure going to increase GDollars’ number of bodyweight pull up reps?
Are you seriously suggesting that if one can only do 4 pullups he should only be doing 2 as many times as he can do per day and that magically he will soon be able to do significantly more than that?
I don’t think so.[/quote]
if someone can do 4 pullups to start, does 2 every hour 5 days a week for 2-3 weeks, then tests…
yes… he will be able to do more. lets say 6
then for another 2-3 weeks he does three pullups every hour for etc…etc… he will be able to say…8?
rinse and repeat…
guess what. this is a programme to get someone good at pullups NOTHING ELSE.
now, why don’t YOU try.
[quote]alit4 wrote:
GDollars37 wrote:
alit4 wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
Bad idea.
Several people have compared this to Pavel and his “GTG” protocol, but you all failed to mention that in Pavel’s protocol you rarely (only when testing yourself every couple weeks or so) do you ever go to failure.
In fact, if I remember correctly you’re supposed to do only about 1/2 of what you’re capable of (so if you can do 10 pull-ups, you’d do sets of 5 reps).
Going to failure on every set (and doing so every hour on top of that) would very quickly burn you out (as benmoore mentioned above).
GTG can be a good method for someone trying to build up their relative strength (like pull-up numbers), but pretty much sucks when it comes to building muscle. Do it like it’s suggested though, not to failure like you’ve suggested here.
this post is right on the money. GTG should be done every hour and with 50% of max. brilliant way to increase your pullup nos. perfect for people in the military etc. not much of a bodybuilding application though.
add weight to reduce your number of reps.
Good thread, making me rethink things after my pullup thread of a couple weeks ago. How would you (or Sentoguy, or anyone else with GTG experience) recommend programming this in with lifting? Just pullups every hour, 50% of max, and then lift as normal but with no upper back work? BW pullup rep increase is top goal, but would like to keep up strength and small mass gains on other lifts.
i would suggest just trying this alongside your other lifting for a couple of weeks and seeing how you go. will depend very much on what other lifting you do. the fact that you don’t go anywhere near failure is the key to pushing up the high rep count.
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And diet, goals, individual recovery abilities, type of work, stress, etc…
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
How is going to 50% of failure going to increase GDollars’ number of bodyweight pull up reps?
Are you seriously suggesting that if one can only do 4 pullups he should only be doing 2 as many times as he can do per day and that magically he will soon be able to do significantly more than that?
I don’t think so.[/quote]
Think what you want, the principle works and there are plenty of people out there who have had good success with it.
The basic premise is to develop skill/neurological improvements through frequent practice of the movements you wish to improve at. By staying away from failure/fatigue you ensure that your nervous system is as fresh as possible (a key component in motor learning). Bulgarian Olympic lifters use a similar approach to their lifting, and it hasn’t seemed to hurt their strength levels.
Again though, this system pretty much sucks for building muscle (for basically the same reasons why it works so well for developing relative strength), so if that’s a priority you probably want to do a different program.
If relative strength, or pull-up numbers in this case, are your primary goal, then it can work well.