Psychopathic Features and Fighters

Tito Ortiz arrested for domestic violence

Quinton Rampage Jackson arrested for reckless driving,hit-and-run charges and after high-speed pursuit in 2008.

Aleksandar Emilianenko have put a tattoo out of pride for committing armed robbery

http://wiki.cagepotato.com/index.php/Aleksander_Emelianenko

Anderson Silva arrested for drug trafficing

http://forums.ufc.production.sparkart.net/showthread.php?t=26523

http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=1242

Mayhem Miller going Mayhem.

Mild-mannered Kevin Randleman=2007. driving under influence,destroying public property and intimidating police officer

Chuck Liddell arrested for cocaine possession

http://ninjashoes.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-51332.html

Kimo Leopoldo arrested for drug possession

Antics of higly narcisstic Floyd Mayweather

http://basicstory.com/floyd-mayweather-arrested-for-assaulting-his-ex-partner-and-threatening-children/133754/
beating up woman

On non-criminal psychopaths

So you’ve demonstrated evidence of substance abuse and violent tendencies, not psychopathy. Nothing there indicates that these things occur in fighters at anything higher than the rate among the general population. Further, once a fighter becomes a celebrity the reporting rate goes way up, so your rates are going to be skewed regardless. How many of those domestic violence and assault claims are money-seekers, looking to play on stereotypes?

Psychopathy is a clinical diagnosis. There is no “non-clinical psychopathy,” and you can not diagnose it from media reports or even criminal records. Even the articles you posted on the subject pointed out that the presence of one, or even several, of the traits listed is not itself indicative of psychopathic personality disorder.

Perform your analysis (and I use the term VERY loosely) on the NBA, the NFL, the NHL, or Hollywood celebrities. You’ll come out about the same. Unless you’re attempting to allege that all successful people have a personality disorder, your theory is bunk.

PS: The plural of anecdote is not data, so please stop with the single-link posts.

Well, a certain someone here DOES seem to have quite a narcissistic neurosis.

Hahah, check out the Anderson Silva one. The K-9 found 23 KILOS of cocaine in his car. Nice one Andy.

Seriously though, like any vocation (Army, marines, police, firemen) the people who pick “cage fighter” as a job probably share many characteristics, or sets of characteristics. On that point I agree with the OP. What I do not agree with is linking this to motherfucking psychopathy.

I don’t consider myself an unstable person. I’m a boring engineering student without much of a social life, who lifts weights and does BJJ. However, come ME squat day, I put my headphones on, put the loudest, angriest music I can find on my MP3 player, and bring out some real scary personal demons to help me lift the weight.

I imagine a good portion of the people on these boards do the same. Is this really special? Is developing a masochistic taste for training really that extraordinary? Should I get my melon checked out?

you guys realize he loves this attention, right? he doesnt really have a point so much as a need for people to interact with him

I think your right something about lunchox hands turns this place into a brotard fest.
sooooo good for the block list

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
So you’ve demonstrated evidence of substance abuse and violent tendencies, not psychopathy. Nothing there indicates that these things occur in fighters at anything higher than the rate among the general population. Further, once a fighter becomes a celebrity the reporting rate goes way up, so your rates are going to be skewed regardless. How many of those domestic violence and assault claims are money-seekers, looking to play on stereotypes?

Psychopathy is a clinical diagnosis. There is no “non-clinical psychopathy,” and you can not diagnose it from media reports or even criminal records. Even the articles you posted on the subject pointed out that the presence of one, or even several, of the traits listed is not itself indicative of psychopathic personality disorder.

Perform your analysis (and I use the term VERY loosely) on the NBA, the NFL, the NHL, or Hollywood celebrities. You’ll come out about the same. Unless you’re attempting to allege that all successful people have a personality disorder, your theory is bunk.

PS: The plural of anecdote is not data, so please stop with the single-link posts.[/quote]

good post.

[quote]devildog_jim wrote:
So you’ve demonstrated evidence of substance abuse and violent tendencies, not psychopathy. Nothing there indicates that these things occur in fighters at anything higher than the rate among the general population. Further, once a fighter becomes a celebrity the reporting rate goes way up, so your rates are going to be skewed regardless. How many of those domestic violence and assault claims are money-seekers, looking to play on stereotypes?

Psychopathy is a clinical diagnosis. There is no “non-clinical psychopathy,” and you can not diagnose it from media reports or even criminal records. Even the articles you posted on the subject pointed out that the presence of one, or even several, of the traits listed is not itself indicative of psychopathic personality disorder.

Perform your analysis (and I use the term VERY loosely) on the NBA, the NFL, the NHL, or Hollywood celebrities. You’ll come out about the same. Unless you’re attempting to allege that all successful people have a personality disorder, your theory is bunk.

PS: The plural of anecdote is not data, so please stop with the single-link posts.[/quote]

Please dont tell me that punching a cop is normal! Thats more than a violent tendency…more like psychopathic aggression.
Trafficking drugs while being wealthy and famous is something done for thrill-seeking.
I am not claiming that these athletes are psychopaths,but they certainly show psychopathic symptoms.They may be moderately psychopathic.

Experts claim that 1% of population are full psychopaths.80 % of psychopaths are men.
About 20 % of inmates in North America are psychopaths.
Average inmate on testing proved to be moderately psychopathic= 20 points out of 4o possible.

The question is where are those people? They must be somewhere!

[quote]rundymc wrote:
Hahah, check out the Anderson Silva one. The K-9 found 23 KILOS of cocaine in his car. Nice one Andy.

Seriously though, like any vocation (Army, marines, police, firemen) the people who pick “cage fighter” as a job probably share many characteristics, or sets of characteristics. On that point I agree with the OP. What I do not agree with is linking this to motherfucking psychopathy.

I don’t consider myself an unstable person. I’m a boring engineering student without much of a social life, who lifts weights and does BJJ. However, come ME squat day, I put my headphones on, put the loudest, angriest music I can find on my MP3 player, and bring out some real scary personal demons to help me lift the weight.

I imagine a good portion of the people on these boards do the same. Is this really special? Is developing a masochistic taste for training really that extraordinary? Should I get my melon checked out?[/quote]

1 % of population is made of psychopaths (experts data).
They are not only serial killers,mad men,etc. They are people with low empathy,egocentric,narcistic individuals,thrill-seekers,greed for power & money,they break the law and social rules,are bullies and substance abusers,etc.
Most psychopaths are not even criminals in the classical sense.

I think most posters on this thread dont actually EVEN KNOW what psychopathy really is.Here is the clip of the world leading psychoopathy researcher Dr. Robert Hare about features of psychopathy.

Good explanation of psychopathic features