On Don Alessi’s site he says powdered protein needs to be consumed within 5-10 minutes of mixing. i’ve never heard of this and frequently mix Low-Carb Grow! for the road to be consumed hours later. anyone have any knowledge on this one ?
Various people have various opinions.
You know that mixing it and drinking it right away is foolproof, so why not just do that? I mean is it that much more work to bring a bottle of water and just mix it up in your shaker later?
If it is, then take into account that you might be sacrificing something.
RIT Jared
I really hope that is not the csse cus I often make my oats and whey the night before and leae it in the fridge overnight. I would hate to think I am not getting that protein.
[quote]RIT Jared wrote:
Various people have various opinions.
You know that mixing it and drinking it right away is foolproof, so why not just do that? I mean is it that much more work to bring a bottle of water and just mix it up in your shaker later?
If it is, then take into account that you might be sacrificing something.
RIT Jared[/quote]
yeah it’s pretty for me to know for sure -important for my routine. i drive for a living and have a tight schedule to keep. some days i can’t stop for hours. and i mean hours. i used to just cook up lots of chicken and pork. still do but making my super gallon shakes is so much easier all the way around. plus you can imagine the double takes i get when someone glances over in traffic as i’m gnawing on a whole pork tenderloin. somebody must know the
answer …anyone ? …
anyone ?..bueller ?
Are you sure it says that? Is there a reason given as to why?
I mean, what would protein spontaneously break down into in water? Water alone won’t even change the tertiary (or quaternary) structure of a protein, otherwise life wouldn’t be able to exist (remember that our bodies are mostly water and the vast majority of our proteins/amino acids exist within it). Our bodies need specific enzymes and substrate available for any kind of peptide cleavage.
Also we need to use hydrochloric acid to denature proteins in the lab (same reason we have it in our stomachs), and even this doesn’t affect the amino acids.
Cheers
[quote]cokeandtaco wrote:
On Don Alessi’s site he says powdered protein needs to be consumed within 5-10 minutes of mixing.[/quote]
yes that’s what it says. it was derek alessi who wrote the article. here’s the paragraph verbatim :
Do not add the water ahead of time. Protein, in any form, has a limited half-life and breaks down quickly. Once you mix the protein, you have between five to ten minutes to finish. Contact a nutritionist if you have additional questions about protein consumption.
whether correct, incorrect, or partially, i’m curious to know where this idea comes from.
and peptide cleavage ? you mean the girls at clemson games ?
I looked at the actual article and there were a number of statements that were not acurate.
The article did not have any references. None. When you have an article like that it could be true, partly true or pure nonsense…
The best articles are ones that have references to back up their statements and that has other experts in the field that have reviewed it. This helps eliminate bad info…
yes i agree and normally would simply ignore it as fluff but Don Alessi is a kick ass dude and is someone i trust as a source of reliable info -which is the only reason why this has stuck in my craw. Dave Barr’s response was helpful and seems to say don’t worry about it.so i’m not that worried about it. still i’m wondering about the source of such an idea. again correct, incorrect or partially correct i’d like to chase it down…especially if it’s incorrect. there’s alot to be learned from flawed thinking . you know success is a poor teacher and all that. i’ve e-mailed the Alessi site but no response yet…
So then I wonder what they think about casien protein in milk? Surely skim milk is mostly water, eh?
Once you get a response please post it cus I am very interested in the topic. Thanks.
got the response. no fancy chemistry here, just another visit from the universal destroyer: good old oxidation. here it is :
"Tim,
The key is protein oxidation. The amount of time protein is exposed to oxygen correlates to the freshness and bioavailability of the protein. This is true for all proteins, i.e. chicken, fish, meat etc. That is why protein begins to clump when premixed and left to sit. If premixed protein is in a vacuum package, the protein will not be exposed to oxygen and will not begin to breakdown.
Derek Alessi "
so that’s good info for me because i was using larger containers and consuming parts at a time. i’ll transfer my shake into individual screw caps bottles and fill them to the very top so there’s no air. also i keep them inn a cooler when i’m driving. in light of this info i would think the oatmeal in the fridge overnight isn’t the best idea. unless you’ve got those fancy vacuum tupperwares.