Professor X Ramping Thread?

No,X. You read it. And have nothing to say but alot to think about.

And “seem to love thinking you are above us all” is a strawman. I never called anyone out but YOU. Its your conduct over the last 7 years with numerous well intentioned people on this site that I’m unimpressed with.

The other vets here have something to offer besides a textbook case of adultalescence, thus my comments aren’t directly toward them.

Well, the show’s over. I’ll let you post the last word cuz Ive got other people to help.

DH

[quote]DH wrote:
No,X. You read it. And have nothing to say but alot to think about.

And “seem to love thinking you are above us all” is a strawman. I never called anyone out but YOU. Its your conduct over the last 7 years with numerous well intentioned people on this site that I’m unimpressed with.

The other vets here have something to offer besides a textbook case of adultalescence, thus my comments aren’t directly toward them.

Well, the show’s over. I’ll let you post the last word cuz Ive got other people to help.

DH
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LOL.

7 years? I’ve been here since 2000…and if TC and Tim Patterson have no problem with how I write, then why do you? I already know their opinion of me, and last I checked, they are the only ones whose opinion really matters here.

LOL i haven’t read much but can see DH and X are having an exchange of words.
I think most of Prof X. posts are pretty funny cause I’ve said it before he comes on real hard on people and very in their face with posts. It’s not neccessarily a bad thing, some people need a reality check. I wouldn’t like it though if another person on this site feels as if they are better than me because of some accomplishments. Although I am still young and improving with each workout, so most youngins on this site need some slack cut on them. I remember when I was 16 trying to learn shit and well asking a million questions and reading as much as I can helped quite a bit.

I have to agree that Prof. X seems a little angry/annoyed when he posts something.


okay

Lets try this /thread thing again…

lol good idea countnigbeans…who is she if you know?

[quote]DH wrote:

C_C has done a nice job of being patient and helpful.
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Don’t think as a German he knows how to be any different :stuck_out_tongue:

In Ireland thats how we regard Germans they are 100% effecient !

He has no sense for anything but to write an answer to what was asked and thats it, pure effeciency LOL

And yes without him and Modok i’d still be quite lost !

[quote]SmallToBig wrote:
DH wrote:

C_C has done a nice job of being patient and helpful.

Don’t think as a German he knows how to be any different :stuck_out_tongue: [/quote] Browse my posting history a little and you’ll find that I can be quite abrasive when I’m in the mood lol…
Nowadays I just usually refrain from commenting in threads or on posts that annoy the hell out of me. [quote]

In Ireland thats how we regard Germans they are 100% effecient ! [/quote] 100% efficient at destroying the world’s beer reserves and at making things way more complicated than they need to be maybe… At least most of us are. I don’t think a typical German would recognize me as a fellow German unless I were to throw my passport at him/her.[quote]

He has no sense for anything but to write an answer to what was asked and thats it, pure effeciency LOL
[/quote]
Question: “Anybody like Waterbury programs”?
Answer: “Why are you posting this in the bodybuilding forum?”
For some reason, people reacted very negatively towards that particular answer of mine. I feel so misunderstood. [quote]
And yes without him and Modok i’d still be quite lost !
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Modok’s the real BBB go-to guy though, I’m just voicing my annoying opinion whenever I get the chance to :slight_smile:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
okay

Lets try this /thread thing again…[/quote]

Oh my.

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

100% efficient at destroying the world’s beer reserves and at making things way more complicated than they need to be maybe… At least most of us are. I don’t think a typical German would recognize me as a fellow German unless I were to throw my passport at him/her.
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Now come on Ireland and the Czech Rep. are the biggest beer drinkers at the moment, Germans still getting used to downing more than 1 pint :stuck_out_tongue:

But ya i’m barely recognized either as i don’t drink anymore absolute heresy here !

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
okay

Lets try this /thread thing again…[/quote]

dizaam

ok dont kill me for asking another ramping question. when do you know its time to go up in weight for your work set? i’ll use an example of bench press.

bar x 15
95 x 10
135 x 8
225 x 6
315 x however many you can get

For the last set of 315 do i increase weight for next session when i reach 6 reps, 8 reps or 10 reps? Or does that depend on your goal i.e. strength (4-6) or hypertrophy (8-10)??

Also when you increase the weight for the last rep should the warm up weights also be increased?

[quote]Dule wrote:
ok dont kill me for asking another ramping question. when do you know its time to go up in weight for your work set? i’ll use an example of bench press.

bar x 15
95 x 10
135 x 8
225 x 6
315 x however many you can get

For the last set of 315 do i increase weight for next session when i reach 6 reps, 8 reps or 10 reps? Or does that depend on your goal i.e. strength (4-6) or hypertrophy (8-10)??

Also when you increase the weight for the last rep should the warm up weights also be increased?[/quote]

It doesn’t matter. Just pick a rep range and work within it. The important thing is progression. As long as you’re progressing either rep wise or weight wise in whatever rep range you choose, it’s all good.

You can increase the warm-up weights if you want. Or not if you don’t. Again, it doesn’t matter. A warm-up is just a warm-up. Just play around with it and find out what works for you.

Don’t over think this. The amount of time you spend worrying about this can be better spent worrying about whether you’re eating enough to grow.

Seeing as pyramid style loading patterns have been used for years, i am honestly surprised that so many people here were lifting with straight sets and that it takes so much explaining.

As has been said, this is being thought about far too much.

Too many of you spend FAR too much time studying the theory, and all it ultimately does is lead to confusion.
I am all for theory, and part of my job is to be as thorough as humanly possible when it comes to such things - but that is not needed when designing a program for oneself as it is significantly easier to train yourself than it is someone else.

I have not read the thread in question, and i do not know how Mr. X does his sessions, but in case it is of interest i do the following:

On any exercise i will have a pre-determined range that i want to train within; 6-12 or 8-15 are the two i use currently.
So assuming i am lifting 8-15 reps for an exercise, i will choose a weight that will allow me to lift upto 15 reps, so i will fail before or at the 15 repetition mark (if i can complete more i do so and then i increase the weight next time).

Then for the second set i will increase the load somewhat and after my rest period (1-2 mins ATM) i will complete another set… usually failing somewhere around 12 reps.

For the third i will increase the weight again and repeat the sequence, often employing pulses, cheats, forced reps etc for as many as possible… but ideally around the 8 mark for this range.

I may add a 4th set where i will drop the weight again and go for reps again - but this depends.

I also reverse that doing a reverse pyramid starting (after a warm up) with a max weight and dropping it as i increase repetitions.
I also so straight sets - but this is quite rare, as i didn’t even do these when i first started training with free weights way back when.

OP - as per progression, it is simple. As with straight sets you add a rep or a couple pounds each session or whenever possible and… well, progress.

You do seem to follow a very linear progression where you add 1 rep each time, but unless this is relative to a weight decrease or because you weren’t lifting with maximum intensity in the first place, then you wouldn’t be ABLE to lift another rep every session.

I prefer a more instinctive approach to training than that myself, when training myself at least. That way i know i always do as much as my body will allow on that day - unless i am doing a planned lower intensity day/whatever.

hope this helps… and i think that simple loading patterns like pyramids will be covered in beginners.

Brook

[quote] Brook wrote:

On any exercise i will have a pre-determined range that i want to train within; 6-12 or 8-15 are the two i use currently.
So assuming i am lifting 8-15 reps for an exercise, i will choose a weight that will allow me to lift upto 15 reps, so i will fail before or at the 15 repetition mark (if i can complete more i do so and then i increase the weight next time).

Then for the second set i will increase the load somewhat and after my rest period (1-2 mins ATM) i will complete another set… usually failing somewhere around 12 reps.

For the third i will increase the weight again and repeat the sequence, often employing pulses, cheats, forced reps etc for as many as possible… but ideally around the 8 mark for this range.

I may add a 4th set where i will drop the weight again and go for reps again - but this depends.

I also reverse that doing a reverse pyramid starting (after a warm up) with a max weight and dropping it as i increase repetitions.
I also so straight sets - but this is quite rare, as i didn’t even do these when i first started training with free weights way back when.

Brook[/quote]

The difference here is that your not ramping up to a max set in the sense most here have talked about. Your doing multiple (3-4) sets as hard as you can, rather than ramping up to one max set as heavy as you can and then doing a different exercise.

Ah i see, thanks mate :wink: