[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
I’ve done this since the days I used to struggle with the 35lbers on the flat DB bench. Works just fine.
So like what, 2… 3 weeks ago?
lol no braw like last Monday.
lol You must do’s the creatinez too…
And to give a meaning to this thread, a picture I saw recently, useful in ramping. Also good for creating pumps, but alas that should get it’s own thread.[/quote]
Who dat is?
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Right now you’re still a complete beginner and very weak (no offsense, of course), so that kind of warm-up works well for you. With the stronger guys, things are usually a little different.
If I wanted to do a heavy squat set with 585 or more, I can’t just start off by doing 5 reps at 295-300 or so if it’s the first exercise of the day… I’d want to warm-up more thoroughly.
[/quote]
Not offended, it’s the truth though i’m coming along quite nicely many thanks to you 
And 585lb Squat good grief 265kgs lol i can do only 100kg for 15 sssooooo far behind !!
[quote]Itchy wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Growing_Boy wrote:
I’ve done this since the days I used to struggle with the 35lbers on the flat DB bench. Works just fine.
So like what, 2… 3 weeks ago?
lol no braw like last Monday.
lol You must do’s the creatinez too…
And to give a meaning to this thread, a picture I saw recently, useful in ramping. Also good for creating pumps, but alas that should get it’s own thread.
Who dat is?[/quote]
No clue man, just saw her pic somewhere randomly. Sorry.
[quote]SmallToBig wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Right now you’re still a complete beginner and very weak (no offsense, of course), so that kind of warm-up works well for you. With the stronger guys, things are usually a little different.
If I wanted to do a heavy squat set with 585 or more, I can’t just start off by doing 5 reps at 295-300 or so if it’s the first exercise of the day… I’d want to warm-up more thoroughly.
Not offended, it’s the truth though i’m coming along quite nicely many thanks to you
And 585lb Squat good grief 265kgs lol i can do only 100kg for 15 sssooooo far behind !!
[/quote]
You’ll get there… I’m not the best squatter either, so yeah. If your goal is to someday be 280-300+ at your height, chances are you’ll end up out-lifting me on a lot of exercises.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
You’ll get there… I’m not the best squatter either, so yeah. If you’re goal is to someday be 280-300+ at your height, chances are you’ll end up out-lifting me on a lot of exercises.
[/quote]
Why is that your 5ft 9" ya 176cm ? Would it not be ALOT better to be smaller than taller it seems smaller you are less Range you have to do !
280kg Squat lol you would want to have some HUGE frame to try support that, is that “big” weight comparable to other people who go to the gym or is it just “big” to me lol
And it will be many YEARS before i come near you i’d say !
[quote]ajweins wrote:
ChristopheD wrote:
I think I got it all wrong too here …
Like tommorow I plan on doing
Squat paused at pins, ATG
Barx10
135x5
From here the rep I use is real near failure
230x12
240x10
250x8
260x6
GHR
Seated Calf Raises
Big Meal
Am I doing too much ? or simply doing it all wrong ? Because for the last months I worked like that and had increase in strength at every single workouts I never have a session without PR in rep or weight.
I bet if you took out the 240 and two sixty sets, and only did 2-4 perfect reps of 250 after your 230 and 135 sets you could get 275 for reps.[/quote]
So basically, I should have done :
barx10
135x5
225x5
250x2
275 (AMAP) ?
GHR
Seated Calf Raises
Home, eat. That seems really not a lot …
I think I’m starting to get the hang of it. Did horizontal back and rear delts today.
T-handle cable rows:
100 x 10; 140 x 5; 170 x 4; 205 x 11 - PR
horizontal machine row to chest:
55 x 8; 130 x 5; 160 x 3; 175 x 10, drop set 130 x 8 - PR, first time using this machine and I liked it, so I’m keeping it in
HS low row:
45/side x 10; 70 x 7; 100 x 14 - PR, then 115 x 6; 135 x 4, drop set 90 x 8, drop set 70 x 8, drop set 55 x 9, drop set 45 x 10 maybe I don’t remember
bent over DB laterals:
10s x 10; 15 x 5; 25 x 11
Felt pretty good.
Then, I did 30 minutes of cardio, heart rate between 120 and 130.
I feel like utter shit right now. My head hurts, I’m nauseous, and I don’t want to move. Maybe I’m finally going into ketosis. I’m zero carb right now. This was also my first time doing 30 minutes cardio.
I’ve read the updates in this thread I don’t know how many times, but every time I see the title, I read it as “Professor X RAPPING Thread”, and I always think PX is gonna bust out some rhymes.
[quote]Artem wrote:
I think I’m starting to get the hang of it. Did horizontal back and rear delts today.
T-handle cable rows:
100 x 10; 140 x 5; 170 x 4; 205 x 11 - PR
horizontal machine row to chest:
55 x 8; 130 x 5; 160 x 3; 175 x 10, drop set 130 x 8 - PR, first time using this machine and I liked it, so I’m keeping it in
HS low row:
45/side x 10; 70 x 7; 100 x 14 - PR, then 115 x 6; 135 x 4, drop set 90 x 8, drop set 70 x 8, drop set 55 x 9, drop set 45 x 10 maybe I don’t remember
bent over DB laterals:
10s x 10; 15 x 5; 25 x 11
Felt pretty good.
Then, I did 30 minutes of cardio, heart rate between 120 and 130.
I feel like utter shit right now. My head hurts, I’m nauseous, and I don’t want to move. Maybe I’m finally going into ketosis. I’m zero carb right now. This was also my first time doing 30 minutes cardio.[/quote]
It looks like you are starting to get the jist of it.
And yes, feelings of nauseousness (no idea how to spell that) are very common when you switch to a very low carb diet. They go away within a week, many times sooner.
[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
Artem wrote:
I think I’m starting to get the hang of it. Did horizontal back and rear delts today.
T-handle cable rows:
100 x 10; 140 x 5; 170 x 4; 205 x 11 - PR
horizontal machine row to chest:
55 x 8; 130 x 5; 160 x 3; 175 x 10, drop set 130 x 8 - PR, first time using this machine and I liked it, so I’m keeping it in
HS low row:
45/side x 10; 70 x 7; 100 x 14 - PR, then 115 x 6; 135 x 4, drop set 90 x 8, drop set 70 x 8, drop set 55 x 9, drop set 45 x 10 maybe I don’t remember
bent over DB laterals:
10s x 10; 15 x 5; 25 x 11
Felt pretty good.
Then, I did 30 minutes of cardio, heart rate between 120 and 130.
I feel like utter shit right now. My head hurts, I’m nauseous, and I don’t want to move. Maybe I’m finally going into ketosis. I’m zero carb right now. This was also my first time doing 30 minutes cardio.
It looks like you are starting to get the jist of it.
And yes, feelings of nauseousness (no idea how to spell that) are very common when you switch to a very low carb diet. They go away within a week, many times sooner. [/quote]
I just puked up my spinach from breakfast. I thought I was done with puking… dammit.
[quote]ChristopheD wrote:
ajweins wrote:
ChristopheD wrote:
I think I got it all wrong too here …
Like tommorow I plan on doing
Squat paused at pins, ATG
Barx10
135x5
From here the rep I use is real near failure
230x12
240x10
250x8
260x6
GHR
Seated Calf Raises
Big Meal
Am I doing too much ? or simply doing it all wrong ? Because for the last months I worked like that and had increase in strength at every single workouts I never have a session without PR in rep or weight.
I bet if you took out the 240 and two sixty sets, and only did 2-4 perfect reps of 250 after your 230 and 135 sets you could get 275 for reps.
So basically, I should have done :
barx10
135x5
225x5
250x2
275 (AMAP) ?
GHR
Seated Calf Raises
Home, eat. That seems really not a lot …
[/quote]
If you think doing all those extra sets for reps will make you huge then keep it up…but if you want to be squatting over 400 for reps in the next year or two I think your method is not optimal.
[quote]SmallToBig wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
You’ll get there… I’m not the best squatter either, so yeah. If you’re goal is to someday be 280-300+ at your height, chances are you’ll end up out-lifting me on a lot of exercises.
Why is that your 5ft 9" ya 176cm [/quote] I’m 5’10, actually. Those 176 cm were just me guessing my height back when I made my account. Simply haven’t corrected that number [quote] ? Would it not be ALOT better to be smaller than taller it seems smaller you are less Range you have to do !
[/quote] ROM isn’t everything, really. It plays an important role, sure, but it’s not the end-all, be-all of strength. And even though you’re tall, the length of your upper vs lower legs vs torso etc may still be good for squatting… Not that it really matters. There’s just one way to find out whether you can get there, and that is to actually try and work your way up. [quote]
280kg Squat lol you would want to have some HUGE frame to try support that[/quote] Well, if you weigh in at around 300 lbs (or more, in the case of your possible future self), you better be putting up some big numbers… [quote], is that “big” weight comparable to other people who go to the gym or is it just “big” to me lol [/quote] There are powerlifters in the 181 class who can easily squat roughly the same (probably more) as me while weighing 100+ lbs less than I do 
All PL weight-classes above that one leave me lying in the dust for sure when it comes to squatting strength, and there’s probably some 170 lb bulgarian who can do 50 lbs more than the U.S. record in the 181 while going ass to grass lol
[quote]
And it will be many YEARS before i come near you i’d say ![/quote]
Sure. So what. We all started somewhere and none of us ended up at such weight for reps after just a year or two of training(if anyone in here did, please don’t mention it. Mind other people’s feelings. Ok?).
You have plenty of time to get there (provided that is your goal, of course… And you may end up ditching back squats in favor of the hack machine, front-squats and leg-presses as a tall guy… But potentially, you may very well be squatting more some day)[quote]
[quote]ajweins wrote:
ChristopheD wrote:
ajweins wrote:
ChristopheD wrote:
I think I got it all wrong too here …
Like tommorow I plan on doing
Squat paused at pins, ATG
Barx10
135x5
From here the rep I use is real near failure
230x12
240x10
250x8
260x6
GHR
Seated Calf Raises
Big Meal
Am I doing too much ? or simply doing it all wrong ? Because for the last months I worked like that and had increase in strength at every single workouts I never have a session without PR in rep or weight.
I bet if you took out the 240 and two sixty sets, and only did 2-4 perfect reps of 250 after your 230 and 135 sets you could get 275 for reps.
So basically, I should have done :
barx10
135x5
225x5
250x2
275 (AMAP) ?
GHR
Seated Calf Raises
Home, eat. That seems really not a lot …
If you think doing all those extra sets for reps will make you huge then keep it up…but if you want to be squatting over 400 for reps in the next year or two I think your method is not optimal.[/quote]
Hey I’m here for advices, I’m an average week and semi-fat beginner so I won’t spit on your advices. I will up from here try that way. If I start a log book on this website can you please come once in a while to set me back on track if I do many mistakes ?
Thanks for your time !
Nah i like Squatting alot maybe not on the 13-15 reps days LOL but the 8-10 day is nice.
My 1st time on Leg Press 2 days ago did 135kg for 10 reps so think my legs are my strongest bodypart LOL
Max weight is 207.5kg so ill be looking to max that out by end of the 18 weeks end, ambitious i know but hey gotta aim high
[quote]ChristopheD wrote:
ajweins wrote:
ChristopheD wrote:
ajweins wrote:
ChristopheD wrote:
I think I got it all wrong too here …
Like tommorow I plan on doing
Squat paused at pins, ATG
Barx10
135x5
From here the rep I use is real near failure
230x12
240x10
250x8
260x6
GHR
Seated Calf Raises
Big Meal
Am I doing too much ? or simply doing it all wrong ? Because for the last months I worked like that and had increase in strength at every single workouts I never have a session without PR in rep or weight.
I bet if you took out the 240 and two sixty sets, and only did 2-4 perfect reps of 250 after your 230 and 135 sets you could get 275 for reps.
So basically, I should have done :
barx10
135x5
225x5
250x2
275 (AMAP) ?
GHR
Seated Calf Raises
Home, eat. That seems really not a lot …
If you think doing all those extra sets for reps will make you huge then keep it up…but if you want to be squatting over 400 for reps in the next year or two I think your method is not optimal.
Hey I’m here for advices, I’m an average week and semi-fat beginner so I won’t spit on your advices. I will up from here try that way. If I start a log book on this website can you please come once in a while to set me back on track if I do many mistakes ?
Thanks for your time !
[/quote]
If you a beginner then the best advice I can give you is what C_C has preached from day 1. Get as strong as possible in a moderate rep range on the key exercises for each bodypart. Ramping is a great way to do this.
I will try to check out your log but if I forget just pm me.
Good observation, bad conclusion. The issue is often more of a genuine lack of understanding of APPLICATION of basic principles of training. Often not the fault of the poster. When inundated with information, much of which appears conflicting, its easy for well intentioned and intelligent people to be at a loss.
Some here are confusing information with wisdom. Folks here have lots of information but they do not have the understanding to apply it and then interpret the results thereafter. Last I checked that is these are the exact criterion that make them “non-vets”. Lo and behold.
So berating everyone who asks a “stupid” question is a bit nonsensical itself. In a way, it too is “stupid”. Its just as ignorant to not see that the problem is not a lack of information or effort on peoples behalf (most of the time) but rather an experiential understanding of how to put the pieces together.
That’s why there are coaches. They train many smart and capable athletes who need the expertise of how to put all these variables together. And they probably don’t get talked down to with profanity, either.
I would like to think that as “vets”, we are here to add that element to the younger guys. They’re not here to be verbally b**tch slapped by some self-aggrandizing internet pseudo identities.
C_C has done a nice job of being patient and helpful. Well done. Respecting others shows you respect yourself.
DH
These questions are a clear sign of people not lifting but wanting to TALK about it like that makes up for lack of experience.
[/quote]
[quote]DH wrote:
Good observation, bad conclusion. The issue is often more of a genuine lack of understanding of APPLICATION of basic principles of training. Often not the fault of the poster. When inundated with information, much of which appears conflicting, its easy for well intentioned and intelligent people to be at a loss.
Some here are confusing information with wisdom. Folks here have lots of information but they do not have the understanding to apply it and then interpret the results thereafter. Last I checked that is these are the exact criterion that make them “non-vets”. Lo and behold.
So berating everyone who asks a “stupid” question is a bit nonsensical itself. In a way, it too is “stupid”. Its just as ignorant to not see that the problem is not a lack of information or effort on peoples behalf (most of the time) but rather an experiential understanding of how to put the pieces together.
That’s why there are coaches. They train many smart and capable athletes who need the expertise of how to put all these variables together. And they probably don’t get talked down to with profanity, either.
I would like to think that as “vets”, we are here to add that element to the younger guys. They’re not here to be verbally b**tch slapped by some self-aggrandizing internet pseudo identities.
C_C has done a nice job of being patient and helpful. Well done. Respecting others shows you respect yourself.
DH
These questions are a clear sign of people not lifting but wanting to TALK about it like that makes up for lack of experience.
[/quote]
Please. No one needs your clearly self righteous attempt to explain why so many people lately are getting nowhere near the results that serious lifters got even 10 years ago. The real problem is there is now a HUGE population of people really not that serious yet typing more and more (and talking) to be heard basing their content ONLY on what they read somewhere. If you sit at home and your only source of knowledge is the internet, you WILL fuck up. That has been the message from the beginning…that people need to stop expecting info to jump in their lap. They need to get out, go TO a gym and observe what the really developed people are actually doing.
Another issue that confuses the masses is authors acting like the bigger someone is, the LESS they must know because clearly genetics/drugs are the ONLY reason they made any progress. Let’s not forget that nearly ALL big guys you see don’t know how they got that way…right?
When you teach people to avoid going to the ones who actually saw success, you are setting them up to be loyal little followers…who will doubtfully reach their own full potential.
Another issue is the belief that when we are discussing these issues…that we need to include those who really “don’t want to get too big”. This is a bodybuilding forum. If your goal isn’t big muscles, you are in the wrong forum.
Expecting people to stop majoring in the minors and to just do it isn’t ignorant or stupid.
Has anyone been following Levrone’s blog? He posts every single workout he does-- weight/sets/reps.
Mostly he ramps up the weight in his chosen rep range, does a few straight sets here and there, repeats top set sometimes.
Simple, effective workouts. Sure, he’s Kevin Levrone with the genetics of Kevin Levrone, but he’s not doing anything complicated. Looks like he’s doing some pretty standard, tried-and-true stuff.
I wonder how many people in these forums would make some gains just following his template (adjusting the weights for themselves) and eating enough to gain?
X, when you berate a 16yo old kid for not ramping correctly, you show yourself to be an awfully “little” man.
My comments would be self-righteous if I didn’t follow the advice I’m giving you. But since I conduct my life that way, its more of a little thing called being an adult. I was a foul-mouthed self absorbed know-it-all when I was a teen. Real life and real tragedy slapped that taste out of my mouth hard and fast.
You get a bit frustrated with the questions do ya? I was the primary vet on the biggest longest thread on this site (my experience on the Anabolic Diet) and walked the walk on how to be a man instead of a boy with a big mouth. Did I get frustrated? Sure. Did I get asked “stupid” questions? Most would say so. Did I treat people in a demeaning fashion and try to be a cyber-bully? No.
And sometimes you don’t either. But sometimes you’re a real tool. Maybe life hasn’t taught you that yet. Or maybe online is where you can let some of your repressed inferiority out on people who are of lesser accomplishments. Who knows?
But you need to check how you come across to people OR DONT ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, man. Its that simple. Noboody needs anything else from you.
Pitching profanity like a high school kid and stroking your ego by being king in your kingdom is pathetic for a man of your age and profession.
Do you talk to your patients with such contempt and disdain? Doubt it, they’re giving you the bucks AND you actually have to make eye contact.
I like much of what you can contribute when you want to be civil. You’re smart and experienced I can see. Use it to benefit others or don’t contribute at all. Be an asset in life.
What I’m saying is this. Help or DONT. But drop the need to be everybody’s daddy. Answer like a professional or don’t waste your time. These are human beings with lives, families, and are just looking for someone to give a hand up. Either pay if forward on move on.
DH
NOTE: And just for the record, ramping is fine as a techinique. But Im 264 at 5’9" and arms well over 20". I never ramp anything. Its a techinique not the Gospel of Jesus Christ, guys. Don’t sweat it.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
DH wrote:
Good observation, bad conclusion. The issue is often more of a genuine lack of understanding of APPLICATION of basic principles of training. Often not the fault of the poster. When inundated with information, much of which appears conflicting, its easy for well intentioned and intelligent people to be at a loss.
Some here are confusing information with wisdom. Folks here have lots of information but they do not have the understanding to apply it and then interpret the results thereafter. Last I checked that is these are the exact criterion that make them “non-vets”. Lo and behold.
So berating everyone who asks a “stupid” question is a bit nonsensical itself. In a way, it too is “stupid”. Its just as ignorant to not see that the problem is not a lack of information or effort on peoples behalf (most of the time) but rather an experiential understanding of how to put the pieces together.
That’s why there are coaches. They train many smart and capable athletes who need the expertise of how to put all these variables together. And they probably don’t get talked down to with profanity, either.
I would like to think that as “vets”, we are here to add that element to the younger guys. They’re not here to be verbally b**tch slapped by some self-aggrandizing internet pseudo identities.
C_C has done a nice job of being patient and helpful. Well done. Respecting others shows you respect yourself.
DH
These questions are a clear sign of people not lifting but wanting to TALK about it like that makes up for lack of experience.
Please. No one needs your clearly self righteous attempt to explain why so many people lately are getting nowhere near the results that serious lifters got even 10 years ago. The real problem is there is now a HUGE population of people really not that serious yet typing more and more (and talking) to be heard basing their content ONLY on what they read somewhere. If you sit at home and your only source of knowledge is the internet, you WILL fuck up. That has been the message from the beginning…that people need to stop expecting info to jump in their lap. They need to get out, go TO a gym and observe what the really developed people are actually doing.
Another issue that confuses the masses is authors acting like the bigger someone is, the LESS they must know because clearly genetics/drugs are the ONLY reason they made any progress. Let’s not forget that nearly ALL big guys you see don’t know how they got that way…right?
When you teach people to avoid going to the ones who actually saw success, you are setting them up to be loyal little followers…who will doubtfully reach their own full potential.
Another issue is the belief that when we are discussing these issues…that we need to include those who really “don’t want to get too big”. This is a bodybuilding forum. If your goal isn’t big muscles, you are in the wrong forum.
Expecting people to stop majoring in the minors and to just do it isn’t ignorant or stupid. [/quote]
[quote]DH wrote:
X, when you berate a 16yo old kid for not ramping correctly, you show yourself to be an awfully “little” man. [/quote]
You’re a fool. Artem was chosen by me for the T-Cell for a reason. You don’t even know the history here yet seem to love thinking you are above us all.
You aren’t.
I doubt the rest of what you wrote is worth the effort to read.