Prof X, What Do You Eat?

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[quote]KyleT wrote:
This really big guy in my gym told me he eats low fat everything, usually no more than 20 fat grams per day. He’s very lean as well. I’ve seen him deadlift 605 and bench 385. I’ve been following his advice for the past few months. Would I get better gains by switching my diet to one similar to yalls? One where I ate lots of beef and fats? Caloric total being the same of course.[/quote]

You have to see what works for you. If you are growing and getting stronger, fine. But I do know, that the body needs fats to function optimally. All this low fat shit came about at about the same time Jim Fixx wrote “The Joy of Running” or whatever that damn book was and people started going away from what had worked for millions of years. I bet you the guy you are referring to still believes that myth of “fat makes you fat”. If you ask him why he eats the way he does, he probably cannot give you an explanation and given the nutritional propaganda that has been put out there I am guessing most people in your gym eat low fat but they are all small and weak, which probably means your buddy who is big and strong is just a freak.

And since we have no idea what you consider “big” without a visual frame of reference really means nothing. I may be jaded, but I really don’t consider someone of average height who is less than 240 all that big and at 240 a 605 deadlift for a single is good but not overly impressive and a 385 max bench is to be expected.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
no fruits or veggies? Or do you just not feel the importance of listing them?

I realize needing as many calories as you do, consuming tons of veggies would be difficult.[/quote]

You just threw “fruits and veggies” out there. Could you tell me what is IN the “fruits and veggies” that would make them necessary and irreplaceable?

There is usually broccoli in the rice if that makes everyone feel better.[/quote]

I’m not playing this game or falling for this trap. You know more about the human body than anyone else on Earth, you tell me what is in them. Have fun, though I know you won’t answer.

Why does everything have to be a riddle with you[/quote]

Because I like riddles?[/quote]

touche

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[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
no fruits or veggies? Or do you just not feel the importance of listing them?

I realize needing as many calories as you do, consuming tons of veggies would be difficult.[/quote]

You just threw “fruits and veggies” out there. Could you tell me what is IN the “fruits and veggies” that would make them necessary and irreplaceable?

There is usually broccoli in the rice if that makes everyone feel better.[/quote]

I’m not playing this game or falling for this trap. You know more about the human body than anyone else on Earth, you tell me what is in them. Have fun, though I know you won’t answer.

Why does everything have to be a riddle with you[/quote]

There isn’t any riddle. Obvious to me and probably most others that he doesn’t see them as a necessity and he is asking you what you think is in them that make them necessary.

People need to do research outside of what is spoon fed them by the government and other parties with an economic interest in getting you to think and do certain things.

I eat vegetables and fruits because I like them, but for me, they have not proven to be a necessity as far as my health is concerned. I have said it countless times before - everyone’s body is different.
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Perhaps you are the one in need of further nutritional info. IF you think there haven’t been studies done on the importance of phytochemicals or polyphenols in the diet.

I get really tired of the “every body is different” argument. Yes, there are some subtle differences among different people, but as humans the vast vast majority of us have the same needs.

Yes, one person may not react well to caffeine, and another benefit from it, but to say we don’t need veggies/fruits for optimal health/performance is a bit narrow minded.

Not all nutritional advice from the gov’t is wrong.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

…and for the record, “phytochemicals” is not an answer.[/quote]

lol, just saw this post.

Why is that not an acceptable answer btw?

how about lycopene in tomatoes? not important for men’s health?

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[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
no fruits or veggies? Or do you just not feel the importance of listing them?

I realize needing as many calories as you do, consuming tons of veggies would be difficult.[/quote]

I can’t speak for X, but there are times when I have gone months eating nothing but basically meat. Everyone’s body/system is different, but people would be surprised by the things that we have been told we “need” that we really don’t.[/quote]

If it means anything, I am like LWH. I can live on beef/pork/milk/eggs, and have zero problems.

I do eat some plants though.

It’s likely some genetic thing, most other men in my family ( Brother, Dad, close relations ) can do, and have done the same.

We don’t have heart problems.

No plants in sight but what is in my yard.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
no fruits or veggies? Or do you just not feel the importance of listing them?

I realize needing as many calories as you do, consuming tons of veggies would be difficult.[/quote]

You just threw “fruits and veggies” out there. Could you tell me what is IN the “fruits and veggies” that would make them necessary and irreplaceable?

There is usually broccoli in the rice if that makes everyone feel better.[/quote]

I’m not playing this game or falling for this trap. You know more about the human body than anyone else on Earth, you tell me what is in them. Have fun, though I know you won’t answer.

Why does everything have to be a riddle with you[/quote]

Because I like riddles?[/quote]

do you look good in green?

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sugar. glorious sugar.

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Surely, no one is saying you can get all your vitamins/minerals from meat, potatoes, rice?

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I’m guessing you take some form of multi-vitamin, X as it appears from your pictures that you don’t currently have scurvy. Maybe I missed it in this thread, but do you just take a basic multi-vitamin or do you get your essential nutrients elsewhere?

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Didnt Prof X say he eats the souls of fallen warrios ala Shang Tsung?

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“Your soul is mine”

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X must take a multi and or Superfood? (thats a question)

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

…and for the record, “phytochemicals” is not an answer.[/quote]

lol, just saw this post.

Why is that not an acceptable answer btw?

how about lycopene in tomatoes? not important for men’s health?[/quote]

I’m sorry, but when did lycopene become a vital nutrient?

I said it is not an answer because it is some broad generalized term that seems to be overused by those who can’t explain how the hell this DIRECTLY relates to everyday health or is NEEDED by the human body.

We are NOT discussing life extension theory crap right now.

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Really? Phytochemicals is not an answer?

Ok - then specifically Lycopene - Lycopenes are bioflavonoids that are closely related to beta carotene. In human blood serum, lycopene is the dominant carotenoid and constitutes approximately 50 percent of all carotenoids found in the serum. Lycopene appears in slightly higher concentrations in the prostate. As you grow older, the lycopene serum values are found to decrease as the risk of prostate cancer increases.

Lycopene is present in tomatoes and several other red fruits. Lycopenes give tomatoes its red color. Tomatoes are one of the best sources for lycopene.

Lycopene has been found to reduce the risk of prostate and lung cancer. The incidence of digestive cancers, such as those of the mouth, esophagus, stomach, colon, intestines, and rectum, may also be lowered with correct dosages of lycopene.

So, that’s a specific compound present only in fruits and vegetables that I would consider an important one for your health.

Anyway, any rebuttal is fruitless (ha ha - get it? FRUITless?) because I know you always have to be right, so I will once again simply bow out of the thread.

It’s no wonder I hardly post here anymore. If it’s not trolls and noob assholes acting like tools, it’s some of the senior members ridiculing about 90 % of what I (and others) have to say…lol…

Carry on.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
what is in fruit that you think can NOT be gotten from other sources?

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Deliciousness. Other than that, I agree. Veggies, on the other hand, dont get to make that arguement with me and I do source out nutrients elsewhere.

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[quote]The other Rob wrote:
I’m guessing you take some form of multi-vitamin, X as it appears from your pictures that you don’t currently have scurvy. Maybe I missed it in this thread, but do you just take a basic multi-vitamin or do you get your essential nutrients elsewhere?[/quote]

I used to but don’t now…and no, I do not have scurvy. I am also not just eating steaks all day. At my peak weight, I was going through about a gallon of green tea a day…but none of this answers why people think you can’t replace whatever they think is the key ingredient in fruit that we will all perish without with any other sources.

Many multi-vitamins (especially the cheaper affordable ones) are likely mostly pissed out or poorly absorbed. I did like Men’s Health vitamins from GNC though.

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[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Surely, no one is saying you can get all your vitamins/minerals from meat, potatoes, rice?

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Who is only eating meat, potatoes and rice? I am DIETING which means my food intake is restricted during those specific times. My diet is usually nowhere near that restrictive.

Why the hell would someone on a low carb diet load up on fruit?

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Wouldn’t a good multivitamin or Biotest’s Superfood give you everything you would get from fruits and veggies? The reason I avoid them at times is because I need foods that are more calorically dense to ensure I surpass my caloric expenditure. I have a hard time eating enough to gain mass. I think I will start eating a steak before bed. Right now I eat cottage cheese with some flax (don’t be too hard on this comment X).

I go months without taking multivitamins or the FDA “recommended” amount of fruits and veggies without noticing any fluctuation in mood, strength, endurance, etc. Costco is great btw. I just don’t have enough freezer space to fully utilize the discounts.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

…and for the record, “phytochemicals” is not an answer.[/quote]

lol, just saw this post.

Why is that not an acceptable answer btw?

how about lycopene in tomatoes? not important for men’s health?[/quote]

I’m sorry, but when did lycopene become a vital nutrient?

I said it is not an answer because it is some broad generalized term that seems to be overused by those who can’t explain how the hell this DIRECTLY relates to everyday health or is NEEDED by the human body.

We are NOT discussing life extension theory crap right now.[/quote]

Fair enough. However, everyday health is one thing, health 20 yrs from now is another.

Again, please don’t think as a total sidetrack of the BB forum, I was just curious if you don’t eat that many veggies per day or you simply didn’t feel like writing them out, Seeing as how in the past you haven’t mentioned them either.

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[quote]Kerley wrote:
X must take a multi and or Superfood? (thats a question)[/quote]

I will likely phase one in if I feel rundown or “half strength” at some point if I choose to restrict my food intake further. My cheat days at this point seem to cover me.