Pro-Card Daydreamin. 5'7'' 161 @ Approx 8%

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
spinsykel wrote:
BONEZ217 wrote:
spinsykel wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
Cprimero wrote:
You won’t get anywhere near a procard until you get to 220 pounds fairly lean, and that’s just for the 202 class. Kevin English came down from 270 in the offseason at 5’4".

Time to kiss goodbye to the abz pics and start eating, good luck.

Apparently you have any idea about weight classes and how many different ways you can actually earn a pro card.

Nationals and pro competitions do weight classes much differently.

my plan is a hard 190 in two years…and destroy local with shows with that. id like to keep that 185-190 for a while because its what i feel is gonna be my best aesthetic shape and size… then… if i so choose… kick it up to 210 - 220 to try to go pro if by that time i feel that being recognized as a professional freak is still important.

Do you plan to compete in untested shows?

I ask because if you want to compete at 190 at 5’7 you will have to bulk up well past 225. 60 total pounds seems like an awful lot in 2 years. At least 35 pounds of which will need to be muscle if 190 at 4% is the goal.

at 190… tested. i really dont feel like ill have that much of a hard time gettin to 190 naturally… i hit 178 with sheer maniacal determination and 7,000 lbs of muscle milk… with the more in depth nutritioning knowledge that i have now… an extra 12 lbs is no big stretch…and ill probably save a whole ton of money on food too.

The thing is that you aren’t close to competition shape. You are obviously leaner than most people but you aren’t below 10 % in any of those pictures. Not even close. 190 at 4% (which is good bodyfat percentage for a local show) is not simply 12 pounds away. If you were to start a contest diet in the condition you are in now you’d have at least 10 pounds of fat to lose and another 8+ pounds of water. You are severely underestimating how much more mass you need to be in competition shape at 5’7 190.

Read TheMightyStu’s competition thread. Then look at pics of middle/light heavies competing in tested shows. [/quote]

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[quote]davidcox1 wrote:
pesty4077 wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
pesty4077 wrote:
Give up on being a Pro, you don’t have the genetics. Your symetry is off, front shoulder are weak, upper chest needs work, your lat insertions are not long enough, you have no quad sweep at all.

After 12-13 years, if you had the genetics you would have been a Pro already. At 5’7" and 161 and 8 BF you would have trouble winning a National Qualifer. My suggestion, stick to local shows, were you should do good.

Your Physique looks good, but I seen alot that look like yours. Not trying to disrespect you, just trying to keep it real.

Damn dude, kind of uncalled for dontcha think?

He’s probably got a good 8-10 years left to make his mark, that’s a shit ton of time. No need to call him out like that.

Do you see a Pro in him? I am not calling him out, just being realistic. I believe Jay Cutler is about his height maybe 5’9’, enough said!!

There are before and after photos of many pros on this site, and I have to say, I would never have pegged some of those before photos as pro material (case in point, Dorian Yates). I say this guy could get a pro card if he really wants to. He won’t get one today, or next year, but five years from now, who is to say? I, for one, give props to the guy for his progress and for having the balls to post his photos and take the good, bad and ugly from us.[/quote]

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[quote]davidcox1 wrote:
Even after Dorian started lifting, I wouldn’t have pegged him as a future Mr. O . . .

Get up to a lean 202 in 8-10 years and then we’ll know for sure whether the genetics are there or not. The lack of balance others have pointed out can be corrected over that period of time and certainly the size can be added. Worst case, he’ll be like Dave Palumbo, big and thick, but just not the ideal physique. I have nothing to encouragement to offer.[/quote]

ill take it. many thanks.

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there will be no more complaints about shadows.

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right shoulder area including pecs, arms and seratus area needs to develop in size and definition … my shoulder injury kept me from workin out for a while and the inflamation has affected recovery on that side… so now im spending most of my efforts in evening out the left and right side.

left leg also need to grow a tad more than the right to catch up… i dunno where this asymmetry came from… i just noticed it two weeks ago… its no problem though… the legs grow quickly and easily… two months and they should be even.

the upper body though… that will probably take a good 3-4 months; ill have to take my time… im not testing my luck with really heavy weights… i dont wanna destroy the shoulder all over again trying to get too big too fast. well there it is… the full frontal no bullshit. fire away. (holds on to arm rests)

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you sure your 31?

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[quote]Randiago wrote:
you sure your 31?[/quote]

i guess its possible my parents could have lied to me…but… i kinda trust them…theyre my parents… so yeah im 31.

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[quote]Deorum wrote:
you have a good base to start with and good upperbody proportions but leg pictures would have made a big difference. good luck working to that procard.

edit: i forgot this isnt a modeling agency the black and white shit doesnt get you bonus points.[/quote]

no shadows

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Man, something is wrong with your camera. It keeps putting these white boxes in the most unfortunate of locations…

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[quote]Squiggles wrote:
Man, something is wrong with your camera. It keeps putting these white boxes in the most unfortunate of locations…[/quote]

lol

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[quote]spinsykel wrote:
i dunno where this asymmetry came from… [/quote]

Asymmetry is natural and you can only do so much to balance it out (case in point, Ronnie Coleman’s arms and later his lats). Don’t fret about it so much. In these photos you posted, you look very symmetrical and you have a good balance (calves were the only thing that I notice on the symmetry front).

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[quote]davidcox1 wrote:
spinsykel wrote:
i dunno where this asymmetry came from…

Asymmetry is natural and you can only do so much to balance it out (case in point, Ronnie Coleman’s arms and later his lats). Don’t fret about it so much. In these photos you posted, you look very symmetrical and you have a good balance (calves were the only thing that I notice on the symmetry front).[/quote]

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[quote]Vatic wrote:
HOLY FUCK YOUR 31!!! WIN!!!

I am just going to say you need to work on legs and some back width and thats about it. Nice shape over all.[/quote]

ok!

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[quote]Cprimero wrote:
You won’t get anywhere near a procard until you get to 220 pounds fairly lean, and that’s just for the 202 class. Kevin English came down from 270 in the offseason at 5’4".

Time to kiss goodbye to the abz pics and start eating, good luck.[/quote]

thank you… im eating as i type.

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You have some crazy leg definition. Makes me think about all these poor punks in my gym that have ostrich legs. I can tell you put a lot of work in.

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[quote]andrew_live wrote:
You have some crazy leg definition. Makes me think about all these poor punks in my gym that have ostrich legs. I can tell you put a lot of work in.[/quote]

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Good, motivating post!

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[quote]GodOfSteele wrote:
Good, motivating post! [/quote]

im glad. really.

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Good work “kid” - you look like one which is a good thing at 31!

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[quote]plateau wrote:
Good work “kid” - you look like one which is a good thing at 31![/quote]

yeah its just now starting to pay off… when i was 17 i looked 12…chicks did not flirt with me.