Pro Bodybuilding's Other Side?

[quote]windmill85 wrote:
im waiting for bronius’ reply

Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:

I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?

I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?

Ooooh, nice one BRONIUS. Maybe next you should ask him what the hell he knows about being black…

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We’ll, wait no more Bauer! It is not an insult to ask an individual where he got his doctoral degree. If you call yourself professor, and somebody asks you were you earned your degree is a normal everyday question.

[quote]BRONIUS wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:

I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?

I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?

Are you saying that are an MD? Did you go to medical school. What makes me a serious trainer? We’ll I to have done personal training in the past, but the people in these forums seem to talk down on personal trainers. Consistency is what makes me a serious trainer.
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Ahhahahah, you’re a funny guy. Consistency isn’t saying much. I know a guy who has been consistently going to the gym for four years now. He has the exact same build he had then, and still benches and curls. (I’ve never seen him do other lifts, so I can’t comment on those).

[quote]Miserere wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
So therefore, if a person only has a bachelor’s degree, but say they teach elementary ed, they should be referred to as doctor. Thank you, I am being serious not sarcastic. I will reserve the title of doctor for teachers and Medicine men only then.

No, you won’t; because we don’t live in ancient Rome or Greece, and we don’t speak neither Latin nor Greek.

What you should do (as should everyone else) is stop calling MDs “doctors”. The requisite to be called a doctor is to have written a thesis, after extensive, original research; at this point you’re granted a Ph.D., which is (from Wikipedia) an abbreviation for the Latin “Philosophi? Doctor” or alternatively “Doctor philosophi?”, D.Phil. (originally from the Greek, meaning “Teacher of Philosophy”), [it] is a doctoral degree granted at the completion of extensive academic work in a particular field of study. Although originally granted exclusively for work in philosophy, today Ph.D.s are awarded in nearly all fields of the sciences and humanities.

As was pointed out earlier, the title of “doctor” was stolen by the medical profession in recent times. Therefore, you should refer to practitioners of medicine as “medics”, “quacks”, “medicine men”, “yu-yu men”, “aspirin dealers”, “healers”, “white coats”, or whatever your favourite monicker is. “Sawbones”, which you already mentioned, works nicely for surgeons, by the way.

“double bachelor bill”-my point isn’t the fear that some educated idiot will jump in and try to save a life because of the doctor title, my point is that Mr or Ms or Mrs works just as well for educated people, and Doctor is something that should be reserved as a title of respect for medical practitioners.

As you should now know, it is the exact opposite.

No need to thank me for correcting your world view, Barney. I simply do it for the good of all mankind.[/quote]

Don’t lawyers also have doctorates of jurisprudence?

Can we call them doctor?

Blarney, you go and earn yourself a PhD and you’ll have earned the title Doctor, whether you currently like it or not.

Howabout, the entire world really doesn’t care whether you like the way the terms are used today or not, and it’s going to continue on it’s merry way regardless.

The world is full of ways that we like to tag “rank” on ourselves for our accomplishements, which is what you are really railing against. Deal with it, you lowlife no-rank nobody.

Hey, that’s my title too. Join the club and relax man.

[quote]Miserere wrote:
Let’s put the thread back on track. I say there’s nothing gay about bodybuilding.[/quote]

is he waiting for his assistant to rub oil on his glutes?

[quote]BRONIUS wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:

I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?

I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?

Are you saying that are an MD? Did you go to medical school. What makes me a serious trainer? We’ll I to have done personal training in the past, but the people in these forums seem to talk down on personal trainers. Consistency is what makes me a serious trainer.
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I wrote my school down and my title because you pissed me off. I then erased it. You post a picture of yourself, and I will give you those details about my education in this thread. Let’s see how “serious” you are.

I keep my personal info off of this forum for a reason. I told you to pm me for further details as I am also in the military. You didn’t do this. Therefore, if you want my info, you give some info.

[quote]BRONIUS wrote:

We’ll, wait no more Bauer! It is not an insult to ask an individual where he got his doctoral degree. If you call yourself professor, and somebody asks you were you earned your degree is a normal everyday question. [/quote]

Well (not we’ll, genius), I wasn’t really waiting with much anticipation for your response, but I must say, I’m rather let-down.

Since you were ignorant enough to arrogantly ask a Doctor about whether he “even got his doctorate”, I then wanted you to be ignorant enough to ask a black man what he knows about being black, which you haven’t.

You took someone’s online nickname and accusingly asked them about their education, fully expecting for them not to be able to answer.

Now that the person has answered, you look stupid. Stop trying to back out of it by saying it’s an “everyday question”.

Do you walk around all day demanding that people prove their education level to you?

Look you just have to break down the words

bodybuilding

body = the physical part of a being
build = to increase, add to
-ing = has intimate relations with same gender

Therefore bodybuilding means increasing sexual bodily relations with the same gender

Although similar could be said for powerlifting, weightlifting, or investing for that matter. Or arguing.

I don’t mind the small pants They have great glutes and have worked hard. I am not gay in the least. I can see how it would be embaressing for some though. Similarly I don’t mind if the women comp. wear bigger costumes, not so skimpy.

I think the big guts are a bigger issue.

[quote]Omnivore wrote:
OK, now I get it!! Up till now we’ve been discussing butts and here the discussion has come around to Bodybuilding’s “Other” side meaning the FRONT or the “weiner” side. All this time I thought we were talking about some weird, erotic, underground, homosexual fixation in the sport. Now I see that we were just talking about the difference between their front and their back sides. I feel silly!![/quote]

The two sides are interrelated. It’s usually someone’s front or “weiner” side that results in a ripped backside.

Ironically, it is usually NOT the frontside of one BB that rips the backside of another BB, due to steroidal shriveling.

I’m going to be serious for a minute. Prof. X is, by far, the best poster to this message board. If you can’t see that, then you are either very stupid or emotionally weak.

Most folks (like you) don’t like him because he has a bad “bedside manner.” He tells people what the truth is, rather than what they want to here. In fact, I bet that a lot of things he says are things T-Nation contributors think - but can’t say because it would offend customers.

[quote]BRONIUS wrote:
I notice that you [Prof. X] call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?[/quote]

A medicine-man is one of most important professions of all societies, and requires quite an effort to become one. However the people going for a PhD, certainly deserve a well sounding title too. A century ago, many M.Sc Engineers wore white coats too. I wonder where everybody started to think of Dr as exclusivly medicine-men.

A bigger issue is the Bachelor degree. Now that’s a bad title if I ever heard one.

Girl: “Hey handsome, I like. Are you a bachelor?”
Guy: “Sure, but I’m married”

Proud dad: “Yes, my son studied hard 3 years in engineering school, and finally he became a batchelor!”

[quote]BigPaul wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom.

Not to split hairs, but they do call people with masters degrees “Master _____” in Europe. But I think that is mostly due to the fact that it is much harder to get a masters degree in Europe than it is in North America.[/quote]

Ooooooooh, I like this idea. Since I have a Masters degree and am a Master Gardener, you may all refer to me now as “Mistress Gojira”.

starts rummaging around for thigh high black leather boots

[quote]BigPaul wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom.

Not to split hairs, but they do call people with masters degrees “Master _____” in Europe. But I think that is mostly due to the fact that it is much harder to get a masters degree in Europe than it is in North America.[/quote]

one of my friends is named Jeff Baiter…I really want him to get an ms after reading that.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:

I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?

I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?

Are you saying that are an MD? Did you go to medical school. What makes me a serious trainer? We’ll I to have done personal training in the past, but the people in these forums seem to talk down on personal trainers. Consistency is what makes me a serious trainer.

I wrote my school down and my title because you pissed me off. I then erased it. You post a picture of yourself, and I will give you those details about my education in this thread. Let’s see how “serious” you are.

I keep my personal info off of this forum for a reason. I told you to pm me for further details as I am also in the military. You didn’t do this. Therefore, if you want my info, you give some info. [/quote]

This seems a bit ass-backwards to me…you don’t show up in a forum and start questioning someone’s credentials having proven nothing about yourself.

Anyone who has hung around T-Nation over the past few years knows who the hell Prof X is, he doesn’t have to prove shit about himself to some johnny-come-lately who just showed up one day.

[quote]Ooooooooh, I like this idea. Since I have a Masters degree and am a Master Gardener, you may all refer to me now as “Mistress Gojira”.

starts rummaging around for thigh high black leather boots[/quote]

Would it be rude to ask for a photo?? Please, please, please :wink:

With all this changing of titles, maybe I should change ny nick to Dalai Lama! Dalai Lama means ocean teacher and that’s what I am, a scubadiving instructor!

Ps. A funny thread but a waste of time, really!

[quote]BRONIUS wrote:
Are you saying that are an MD? Did you go to medical school. What makes me a serious trainer? We’ll I to have done personal training in the past, but the people in these forums seem to talk down on personal trainers. Consistency is what makes me a serious trainer.
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How about posting a pic of yourself?

Really, your physique should speak volumes about being a “serious trainer”. The Prof has pics in his profile.

Where are yours?

[quote]gojira wrote:
BigPaul wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom.

Not to split hairs, but they do call people with masters degrees “Master _____” in Europe. But I think that is mostly due to the fact that it is much harder to get a masters degree in Europe than it is in North America.

Ooooooooh, I like this idea. Since I have a Masters degree and am a Master Gardener, you may all refer to me now as “Mistress Gojira”.

starts rummaging around for thigh high black leather boots[/quote]

Don’t tease me like that.

[quote]gojira wrote:
Ooooooooh, I like this idea. Since I have a Masters degree and am a Master Gardener, you may all refer to me now as “Mistress Gojira”.

starts rummaging around for thigh high black leather boots[/quote]

To be really cool, you need some ninja tabi boots.

I have apologized to Bauer.

I deleted my pathetic hate speech.