I’m going to grab the steering wheel with both hands and try to pull this thread semi-back on topic. Yes competetive BB at a pro level has this dark side. I’d doubt the amateurs are doing queer shit to get roid/food money though. Some of the pros, well taht is the word on the street.
On a side note, I used to work at a bb supplement distributor and went to various expos and shows. All I can say is I respect the hell out of those guys efforts in the gym and give them props for the results of their hard work BUT man is that shit gay. Why do I want to see dudes oiled up in skimpy banana hammocks prancing/flexing to their idea of “hot” music. H to the OMO
Sorry if you think the competitions rule and actually care who wins, this is just my opinion
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:
I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?
I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?
Ooooh, nice one BRONIUS. Maybe next you should ask him what the hell he knows about being black…
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[quote]storey420 wrote:
I’m going to grab the steering wheel with both hands and try to pull this thread semi-back on topic. Yes competetive BB at a pro level has this dark side. I’d doubt the amateurs are doing queer shit to get roid/food money though. Some of the pros, well taht is the word on the street.
On a side note, I used to work at a bb supplement distributor and went to various expos and shows. All I can say is I respect the hell out of those guys efforts in the gym and give them props for the results of their hard work BUT man is that shit gay. Why do I want to see dudes oiled up in skimpy banana hammocks prancing/flexing to their idea of “hot” music. H to the OMO
Sorry if you think the competitions rule and actually care who wins, this is just my opinion[/quote]
Interesting. I thought something could only truly be “gay” if it involved sex between two people of the same gender. Other than that, an activity is only as “gay” as you make it. One instance that comes to mind is being a masseuse or a masseur. If you happened to be one, would massaging another guy be “gay” to you?
I am just taking your thinking to the extreme. I follow bodybuilding and could care less about another guys “skimpy banana hammock” other than I wish they would cover up more. I think the real question is, why are your eyes focused there?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am just taking your thinking to the extreme. I follow bodybuilding and could care less about another guys “skimpy banana hammock” other than I wish they would cover up more. I think the real question is, why are your eyes focused there?[/quote]
OK, now I get it!! Up till now we’ve been discussing butts and here the discussion has come around to Bodybuilding’s “Other” side meaning the FRONT or the “weiner” side. All this time I thought we were talking about some weird, erotic, underground, homosexual fixation in the sport. Now I see that we were just talking about the difference between their front and their back sides. I feel silly!!
Just to be sure I have it right, we should post a few more frontal close-ups of guys in their “marble bags.” That is unless it makes some of the guys on this here T-Nation site kinda tingly in their naughty parts. But at least that way, we’ll know fer-shur that this is all about front vs. back poses and not something weird or sick!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
storey420 wrote:
I’m going to grab the steering wheel with both hands and try to pull this thread semi-back on topic. Yes competetive BB at a pro level has this dark side. I’d doubt the amateurs are doing queer shit to get roid/food money though. Some of the pros, well taht is the word on the street.
On a side note, I used to work at a bb supplement distributor and went to various expos and shows. All I can say is I respect the hell out of those guys efforts in the gym and give them props for the results of their hard work BUT man is that shit gay. Why do I want to see dudes oiled up in skimpy banana hammocks prancing/flexing to their idea of “hot” music. H to the OMO
Sorry if you think the competitions rule and actually care who wins, this is just my opinion
Interesting. I thought something could only truly be “gay” if it involved sex between two people of the same gender. Other than that, an activity is only as “gay” as you make it. One instance that comes to mind is being a masseuse or a masseur. If you happened to be one, would massaging another guy be “gay” to you?
I am just taking your thinking to the extreme. I follow bodybuilding and could care less about another guys “skimpy banana hammock” other than I wish they would cover up more. I think the real question is, why are your eyes focused there?[/quote]
Not nowadays, I’m so tired of hearing, “that’s gay” as a euphamism for something that is lame or stupid or a negative thing. Shit it’s like the 70’s all over again.
More than once I’ve heard some jackass say, " it makes me sick when I think about two guys" , more than once I’ve said, “why are you thinking about it?” just some stuttering in response. Idiots
[quote]Professor X wrote:
storey420 wrote:
I’m going to grab the steering wheel with both hands and try to pull this thread semi-back on topic. Yes competetive BB at a pro level has this dark side. I’d doubt the amateurs are doing queer shit to get roid/food money though. Some of the pros, well taht is the word on the street.
On a side note, I used to work at a bb supplement distributor and went to various expos and shows. All I can say is I respect the hell out of those guys efforts in the gym and give them props for the results of their hard work BUT man is that shit gay. Why do I want to see dudes oiled up in skimpy banana hammocks prancing/flexing to their idea of “hot” music. H to the OMO
Sorry if you think the competitions rule and actually care who wins, this is just my opinion
Interesting. I thought something could only truly be “gay” if it involved sex between two people of the same gender. Other than that, an activity is only as “gay” as you make it. One instance that comes to mind is being a masseuse or a masseur. If you happened to be one, would massaging another guy be “gay” to you?
I am just taking your thinking to the extreme. I follow bodybuilding and could care less about another guys “skimpy banana hammock” other than I wish they would cover up more. I think the real question is, why are your eyes focused there?[/quote]
I understand that you’re probably in the “let’s argue about nothing” mode from earlier in this thread but hopefully you can get that by gay I mean in the lame sense AND also in the this could be construed as homoerotic kind of event.
To answer your question though, yes I suppose someone could construe a massage from a guy as gay. Me personally I would prefer to have a women massage me but if there was a guy that was a very well respected professional or “the best in my area” I would consider going to him. Just a personal prefernce but I don’t think that makes him gay–thats asinine.
Nor do I think that all competing pro bodybuilding is gay ( as in they love tha cock kinda gay) just that I think their sport/hobby is lame/gay however you put it. I feel the same way about NASCAR. Some people go bonkers for that shit, I think its lame. The difference is that there is no way that racing cars can be viewed as “homoerotic” not so much for bb competitions.
Finally of course the competitors would care about the other guy’s “banana hammocks” or at least not the homosexual competitors! I thought we were talking about the audience and how this might be viewed as “gay”
[quote]storey420 wrote:
ally of course the competitors would care about the other guy’s “banana hammocks” or at least not the homosexual competitors! I thought we were talking about the audience and how this might be viewed as “gay”[/quote]
That same audience thinks that any guy who lifts weights regularly is “gay”. I think it is a waste of time worrying about the stupidity of the general public.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
If I begin dieting (which I have)
Wait… In all this bullshit going on in this thread we missed the most important line.[/quote]
Fuck, you’re right!
Prof, you’re dieting? Are you down to 8,000 calories a meal? Have the local elementary schools stopped posting snipers in case you get hungry at recess? Have you stopped wearing out refrigerator doors at the rate of two a month?
[quote]Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:
I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?
I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?
Ooooh, nice one BRONIUS. Maybe next you should ask him what the hell he knows about being black…
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Incidentally, since this thread isn’t on topic any longer, -
I really don’t beleive that people with PhD. should be called doctor, unless they are one. Let me explain. When I think doctor, I think “medicine man” Like professer X. There are a lot of people at colleges and in the professional world that are “doctors” but not “medicine men”. I really think that the blatant rapage of the word doctor needs to stop.
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom. Do you get my point? What happens if someone gets hurt on the subway, and somebody starts yelling for a doctor. Then some little educated punk walks up, and says “I’m a doctor, but I don’t know jack shit about helping people” I know it sounds very weird, but I really hate the fact that people can’t seem to reserve the word doctor for real practitioners of medicine.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:
I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?
I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?
Ooooh, nice one BRONIUS. Maybe next you should ask him what the hell he knows about being black…
Incidentally, since this thread isn’t on topic any longer, -
I really don’t beleive that people with PhD. should be called doctor, unless they are one. Let me explain. When I think doctor, I think “medicine man” Like professer X. There are a lot of people at colleges and in the professional world that are “doctors” but not “medicine men”. I really think that the blatant rapage of the word doctor needs to stop.
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom. Do you get my point? What happens if someone gets hurt on the subway, and somebody starts yelling for a doctor. Then some little educated punk walks up, and says “I’m a doctor, but I don’t know jack shit about helping people” I know it sounds very weird, but I really hate the fact that people can’t seem to reserve the word doctor for real practitioners of medicine.
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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
I really don’t beleive that people with PhD. should be called doctor, unless they are one. Let me explain. When I think doctor, I think “medicine man” Like professer X. There are a lot of people at colleges and in the professional world that are “doctors” but not “medicine men”. I really think that the blatant rapage of the word doctor needs to stop.
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom. Do you get my point? What happens if someone gets hurt on the subway, and somebody starts yelling for a doctor. Then some little educated punk walks up, and says “I’m a doctor, but I don’t know jack shit about helping people” I know it sounds very weird, but I really hate the fact that people can’t seem to reserve the word doctor for real practitioners of medicine.
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I see the slightest sense of where you’re coming from, but there’s a couple reasons why this isn’t really an issue:
I highly doubt anybody who has a doctoral degree in, say, English lit, is going to try to use their “Dr.” title to allow them to jump in and perform an emergency tracheotomy.
Most people, outside of medical doctors, tend to try to avoid making themselves responsible for saving someone’s life, so your worries of ‘Dr. Bob the economics professor’ jumping in to hand-stroke your heart back to life aren’t too realistic.
The “Dr.” title is only universal when addressing someone’s name. Any other time where their actual Doctoral specificity is important, it is indicated, such as by “MD” for medical doctor.
I’m just a “Double Bachelor Bill” myself however, so anyone with more knowledge on this fairly un-important discussion can chime in…
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:
I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?
I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?
Ooooh, nice one BRONIUS. Maybe next you should ask him what the hell he knows about being black…
Incidentally, since this thread isn’t on topic any longer, -
I really don’t beleive that people with PhD. should be called doctor, unless they are one. Let me explain. When I think doctor, I think “medicine man” Like professer X. There are a lot of people at colleges and in the professional world that are “doctors” but not “medicine men”. I really think that the blatant rapage of the word doctor needs to stop.
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom. Do you get my point? What happens if someone gets hurt on the subway, and somebody starts yelling for a doctor. Then some little educated punk walks up, and says “I’m a doctor, but I don’t know jack shit about helping people” I know it sounds very weird, but I really hate the fact that people can’t seem to reserve the word doctor for real practitioners of medicine.
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The word “doctor” means “teacher” in Latin and has been used for academics longer than for physicians.
[quote]etaco wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:
I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?
I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?
Ooooh, nice one BRONIUS. Maybe next you should ask him what the hell he knows about being black…
Incidentally, since this thread isn’t on topic any longer, -
I really don’t beleive that people with PhD. should be called doctor, unless they are one. Let me explain. When I think doctor, I think “medicine man” Like professer X. There are a lot of people at colleges and in the professional world that are “doctors” but not “medicine men”. I really think that the blatant rapage of the word doctor needs to stop.
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom. Do you get my point? What happens if someone gets hurt on the subway, and somebody starts yelling for a doctor. Then some little educated punk walks up, and says “I’m a doctor, but I don’t know jack shit about helping people” I know it sounds very weird, but I really hate the fact that people can’t seem to reserve the word doctor for real practitioners of medicine.
The word “doctor” means “teacher” in Latin and has been used for academics longer than for physicians.
So therefore, if a person only has a bachelor’s degree, but say they teach elementary ed, they should be referred to as doctor. Thank you, I am being serious not sarcastic. I will reserve the title of doctor for teachers and Medicine men only then.
“double bachelor bill”-my point isn’t the fear that some educated idiot will jump in and try to save a life because of the doctor title, my point is that Mr or Ms or Mrs works just as well for educated people, and Doctor is something that should be reserved as a title of respect for medical practitioners.
I LOOOOVVVEEE refering to Pre-med majors as “sawbones”.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
So therefore, if a person only has a bachelor’s degree, but say they teach elementary ed, they should be referred to as doctor. Thank you, I am being serious not sarcastic. I will reserve the title of doctor for teachers and Medicine men only then.[/quote]
No, you won’t; because we don’t live in ancient Rome or Greece, and we don’t speak neither Latin nor Greek.
What you should do (as should everyone else) is stop calling MDs “doctors”. The requisite to be called a doctor is to have written a thesis, after extensive, original research; at this point you’re granted a Ph.D., which is (from Wikipedia) an abbreviation for the Latin “Philosophi? Doctor” or alternatively “Doctor philosophi?”, D.Phil. (originally from the Greek, meaning “Teacher of Philosophy”), [it] is a doctoral degree granted at the completion of extensive academic work in a particular field of study. Although originally granted exclusively for work in philosophy, today Ph.D.s are awarded in nearly all fields of the sciences and humanities.
As was pointed out earlier, the title of “doctor” was stolen by the medical profession in recent times. Therefore, you should refer to practitioners of medicine as “medics”, “quacks”, “medicine men”, “yu-yu men”, “aspirin dealers”, “healers”, “white coats”, or whatever your favourite monicker is. “Sawbones”, which you already mentioned, works nicely for surgeons, by the way.
As you should now know, it is the exact opposite.
No need to thank me for correcting your world view, Barney. I simply do it for the good of all mankind.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom.
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Not to split hairs, but they do call people with masters degrees “Master _____” in Europe. But I think that is mostly due to the fact that it is much harder to get a masters degree in Europe than it is in North America.
[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
etaco wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
Bauer97 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
BRONIUS wrote:
I notice that you call yourself professor. Have you even earned a doctoral degree? Do you have a PhD specializing in exercise biology and nutrient biochemistry? What makes you a serious trainer?
I am a doctor in the military and an ex-personal trainer. My pic is in my profile. Any more info you want in detail will have to be pm’d. Now, what makes you a serious trainer?
Ooooh, nice one BRONIUS. Maybe next you should ask him what the hell he knows about being black…
Incidentally, since this thread isn’t on topic any longer, -
I really don’t beleive that people with PhD. should be called doctor, unless they are one. Let me explain. When I think doctor, I think “medicine man” Like professer X. There are a lot of people at colleges and in the professional world that are “doctors” but not “medicine men”. I really think that the blatant rapage of the word doctor needs to stop.
People don’t call people with a bachelors degree Bachelor Bill, and they don’t call people with masters degree’s Master tom. Do you get my point? What happens if someone gets hurt on the subway, and somebody starts yelling for a doctor. Then some little educated punk walks up, and says “I’m a doctor, but I don’t know jack shit about helping people” I know it sounds very weird, but I really hate the fact that people can’t seem to reserve the word doctor for real practitioners of medicine.
The word “doctor” means “teacher” in Latin and has been used for academics longer than for physicians.
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So therefore, if a person only has a bachelor’s degree, but say they teach elementary ed, they should be referred to as doctor. Thank you, I am being serious not sarcastic. I will reserve the title of doctor for teachers and Medicine men only then.
“double bachelor bill”-my point isn’t the fear that some educated idiot will jump in and try to save a life because of the doctor title, my point is that Mr or Ms or Mrs works just as well for educated people, and Doctor is something that should be reserved as a title of respect for medical practitioners.
I LOOOOVVVEEE refering to Pre-med majors as “sawbones”.
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Education’s purpose is to replace an empty mind with an open one.
Malcolm Forbes
