i am now going to take up water color painting
It seems to me that athletes who push their bodies to the extreme, in any sport, are at higher risk for injuries. At least in weight lifting, itās up to you to gauge the risk / reward. Seems a lot safer than a contact sport where there are factors beyond your control (eg. football).
From one of the articles:
People get hurt playing lots of recreational sports. I know a woman whoās had 2 concusions from playing softball. Soccer players are always getting knee tears from getting kicked. Heck, my brother dislocated his shoulder sledding down a hill and wiping out when he was in his late 20ās and he was in good shape (Division 1 hammer & discus thrower). Isnāt there a risk to everything you do?
Iām not a power lifter, but even when I hit the gym, Iām competing against myself trying to increase the weight. Whereās the challenge or motivation to go to the gym and use the same weight week over week?
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If someone who squats twice as much as I do hasnāt popped their aorta yet, Iām not terribly worried.[/quote]
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(Although in my case its probably three of four times as much as me)
I think over time, oneās body will grow accustomed to heavy weights. I suppose that powerlifting is harmful if one day youāre squatting 355lbs. and a year later attempting to do 870lbs. There is no way in hell oneās body can adapt to that much strain that quickly.
However, if you gradually build up to that weight, then there shouldnāt be a problem. I think thereās more risk using AAS and the other performance enchancers trying to achieve an 800lbs. squat than there is actually squatting 800lbs. Even then under those circumstances, if common sense and good thought is put into it, the risk is minimal, if any.
Just my two centsā¦
Its more likely to cause hypertrophy of the walls of the heart due to increased blood pressure for minimal periods of time in order to adapt to the pressureā¦So powerlifting will help me get bigger, stronger and a beast of a heartā¦Im in!
There is more chance of getting hit by a bus than diein from lifting heavyā¦Just look both ways crossing the road
Achieve or die
Figure you guys might find this interesting. I was just in a research study (hey college kids need guinea pig money) on the effect of weightlifting on arterial stress.
Basically the medical community is saying from everything we know right now this should kill you, but it doesnātā¦ We want to know why.
I think their hypothesis was something to the effect of weightlifting produces some kind of adaptive stress on the body that allows you to withstand massive BP increases.
Just keep in mind that people donāt really know anything when it comes to science. We can observe a pattern of what occurs in the natural world. We can make theories based off of that pattern. When people try to form theories off other peoples theories, as lot of times the apply the original theory incorrectly, assuming it was right in the first place.
empirical over theoretical and were not dead yet 
If youāre worried about lifting a plate, dumbell or kettle bell, then get the fuck out of my gym.
Our bodies are created to adapt to external forces which causes our internal organs to adapt.
If youāre really that worried, then take up a comfy job where your body adapt to the mold of the chair. Blubber and fat hanging off the sides. Gynocastemia estrogen producing sissy tittied bitch. Get the fuck out of my gym!
Also, Shawn105, you decide whatās worth with YOUR doctor. Take this article to your doctor and see what he/she says. Then decide whether you want to:
A) Keel over locking out a PR (maraudermeat)
B) Be as strong as you can possibley become
C) Worry about dying
Damn it these people piss me off when they get scared by reading something.
Iāve got diabetes in my family, heart attacks, stroke, and Iām still squatting 225lbs 35 times. If Iām going to die, Iād rather die lifting heavy shit, or bustin a nut in a soaking wet pussy. But if I die soon, I know I bust my ass in the gym with no regrets!
Fuck these people and their fear of dying or being injured from reading a study.
LIFT OR DIE!
Take it easy psycho. It was a fairly legitimate question.
That article was a shit-stirring piece of misdirection and should be forcefully ignored.
[quote]DaCharmingAlbino wrote:
That article was a shit-stirring piece of misdirection and should be forcefully ignored.[/quote]
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Well if lifting weights will kill me at least I will die happyā¦or slightly enraged
I would like to know how much the guy who conducted that study bench presses.
[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Take it easy psycho. It was a fairly legitimate question.[/quote]
Thank you kind sire. I take this as a compliment.
Every since I started lifting heavy (relative to my max) it has aggravated my LOW blood pressure, I crave my workouts not only for actually lifting weights, but the temporary high blood pressure gives me some mental clarity (Hows that for physiological addiction). My guess is that powerlifting does indeed strengthen the heart and, subsequently, make it adapt.
wow
[quote]silverhydra wrote:
Every since I started lifting heavy (relative to my max) it has aggravated my LOW blood pressure, I crave my workouts not only for actually lifting weights, but the temporary high blood pressure gives me some mental clarity (Hows that for physiological addiction). My guess is that powerlifting does indeed strengthen the heart and, subsequently, make it adapt.[/quote]
Well, from my physiology courses the answer is yes.
ā¦and kind of no as well.
Weight training will result in cardiac hypertrophy, (as a positive side effect of training rather than a disease state) but no increase in stroke volume. So all lifting and no conditioning can actually reduce cardiac output, since the muscle has hypertrophied and reduced the size of the inner chamber.
Athletes who tend to do a high concurrent volume of strength and endurance training however, also tend to have the biggest and strongest hearts.
[quote]justkevin wrote:
silverhydra wrote:
Every since I started lifting heavy (relative to my max) it has aggravated my LOW blood pressure, I crave my workouts not only for actually lifting weights, but the temporary high blood pressure gives me some mental clarity (Hows that for physiological addiction). My guess is that powerlifting does indeed strengthen the heart and, subsequently, make it adapt.
Well, from my physiology courses the answer is yes.
ā¦and kind of no as well.
Weight training will result in cardiac hypertrophy, (as a positive side effect of training rather than a disease state) but no increase in stroke volume. So all lifting and no conditioning can actually reduce cardiac output, since the muscle has hypertrophied and reduced the size of the inner chamber.
Athletes who tend to do a high concurrent volume of strength and endurance training however, also tend to have the biggest and strongest hearts. [/quote]
And this is yet another reason why conditioning and GPP work is valuable.
Powerlifting could also save your lifeā¦http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/18/5/1468.abstract
[quote]shawn105 wrote:
I just read a few articles online that disturbed me. Heavy weights is not heart healthy, it can cause organ damage, and heart attacks apparently and the risk is very high.
http://www.justnews.com/health/9803945/detail.html College Basketball Scholarships. Basketball Recruiting. i really dont want to disconnect my aorta chasing PRās. doesnt sound worth it. thoughts?[/quote]
There is some seriously weak info in that article. It makes it sound like the weight you lift is directly responsible for high blood pressure, so the more you lift the higher it will be. That is not at all true.
High blood pressure comes mainly from a lack of flexibility in your blood vessels. Normally when your heart pumps harder or when you squeeze the blood out of a few vessels by flexing, the other vessels of your body stretch to make room for it and limit the increase in pressure. But if your arteries are hard (from lack of exercise or smoking, etc.), the blood has no place to go, so the pressure increases.
The way lifting affect your blood pressure at the time of the lift, is by increasing your heart rate to supply oxygen to the muscle. If you are a smoker with hard arteries, it doesnāt matter whether you are dancing around with a 5 pound dumbell or squatting 2x bodyweight. Your blood pressure is going to go way up. And if you are in good cardio health, your blood pressure is going to go up a little, as your body is designed to handle.
Anyway, before I started lifting, I couldnāt walk up a hill without breathing hard. Now I squat bodyweight 10x and donāt break a sweat. Iām thinking my heart is a lot better off now.