Hi,
just wondering for anybody here that knows, what are the standard amounts of weight generally regarded as the minimum for someone(roughly the 70,75-ishKg mark) hoping to enter a comp.
I don’t think I’m anywhere near where I need to be, but if I have numbers it’s something to strive for.
No minimums. Go on the revelvant websites for a fed that you would lift in and check out results. As your in Ireland checkout Irsh Drug Free Powerlifting Association. You could squat 80kg unequipped at your 1st comp. Nobody get’s looked down on for stepping on the platform.
Depends on the meet. Local/State meets: could be anything, depends on who shows up. Pro meets: depends on the meet, but usually it’s limited to X number of lifters or invite only with the top X lifters in that class. The Cinci Pro/Am in August has a qualifying total of 1750@165, but there’s USD$10k prize money involved.
[quote]IainK wrote:
No minimums. Go on the revelvant websites for a fed that you would lift in and check out results. As your in Ireland checkout Irsh Drug Free Powerlifting Association. You could squat 80kg unequipped at your 1st comp. Nobody get’s looked down on for stepping on the platform.[/quote]
Thanks for your reply.
Was kind of looking for general “winning numbers”(as hard as this may be, I understand that ther’ll be different numbers for different comp.s, countries, etc.) in or around the mentioned weight class. This is partly gauging myself against others, so I know how far I’ve got to aim for. I don’t think I would enter unless I genuinely thought I had a good chance of doing relatively well.
What are others opinions? Along with the original question, would people enter if they expected not to do well, or would you enter for the experience?
[quote]johnnytang24 wrote:
The Cinci Pro/Am in August has a qualifying total of 1750@165, but there’s USD$10k prize money involved.[/quote]
Thanks for you reply.
When you say this I assume that means 1750lbs total over three lifts?
Sorry if this seems somewhat amateur, as I am relatively new to competitive lifting.
[quote]rock27 wrote:
IainK wrote:
No minimums. Go on the revelvant websites for a fed that you would lift in and check out results. As your in Ireland checkout Irsh Drug Free Powerlifting Association. You could squat 80kg unequipped at your 1st comp. Nobody get’s looked down on for stepping on the platform.
Thanks for your reply.
Was kind of looking for general “winning numbers”(as hard as this may be, I understand that ther’ll be different numbers for different comp.s, countries, etc.) in or around the mentioned weight class. This is partly gauging myself against others, so I know how far I’ve got to aim for. I don’t think I would enter unless I genuinely thought I had a good chance of doing relatively well.
What are others opinions? Along with the original question, would people enter if they expected not to do well, or would you enter for the experience?[/quote]
I think only entering if you can win is ridiculous. You’ve no idea who’ll show up on the platform at any given comp. A 400kg raw total might have you first or last on any given day. My training partner lifts at 75kg and did something like 210/135/240. Going on his training he’s good for alot more now.
You’d need 500+ raw to win the open, and prolly 6+ equipped.
How old are you and what are your lifts like now?
[quote]rock27 wrote:
johnnytang24 wrote:
The Cinci Pro/Am in August has a qualifying total of 1750@165, but there’s USD$10k prize money involved.
Thanks for you reply.
When you say this I assume that means 1750lbs total over three lifts?
Sorry if this seems somewhat amateur, as I am relatively new to competitive lifting.[/quote]
That’s right, but it’s also in a non-tested multiply fed, so it’s not a good gauge of what numbers are good in a tested single ply fed.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
rock27 wrote:
IainK wrote:
No minimums. Go on the revelvant websites for a fed that you would lift in and check out results. As your in Ireland checkout Irsh Drug Free Powerlifting Association. You could squat 80kg unequipped at your 1st comp. Nobody get’s looked down on for stepping on the platform.
Thanks for your reply.
Was kind of looking for general “winning numbers”(as hard as this may be, I understand that ther’ll be different numbers for different comp.s, countries, etc.) in or around the mentioned weight class. This is partly gauging myself against others, so I know how far I’ve got to aim for. I don’t think I would enter unless I genuinely thought I had a good chance of doing relatively well.
What are others opinions? Along with the original question, would people enter if they expected not to do well, or would you enter for the experience?
I think only entering if you can win is ridiculous. You’ve no idea who’ll show up on the platform at any given comp. A 400kg raw total might have you first or last on any given day. My training partner lifts at 75kg and did something like 210/135/240. Going on his training he’s good for alot more now.
You’d need 500+ raw to win the open, and prolly 6+ equipped.
How old are you and what are your lifts like now?[/quote]
When I said that I didn’t mean go into a meet expecting to win.
I know what you’re saying with the variation of quality on the day, but in my opinion I wouldn’t dream of entering until I get to what I deem a satisfactory level:
I’m 20, at the mo.
Bench:Not tested, but can put up 120ish for 2 reps
Squat:roughly 190
Dead:175/180
I know I’m nowhere near where I need to be, but as I said I’m gauging against others for possible entry down along the line. Do you compete yourself?
[quote]Hanley wrote:
rock27 wrote:
IainK wrote:
No minimums. Go on the revelvant websites for a fed that you would lift in and check out results. As your in Ireland checkout Irsh Drug Free Powerlifting Association. You could squat 80kg unequipped at your 1st comp. Nobody get’s looked down on for stepping on the platform.
Thanks for your reply.
Was kind of looking for general “winning numbers”(as hard as this may be, I understand that ther’ll be different numbers for different comp.s, countries, etc.) in or around the mentioned weight class. This is partly gauging myself against others, so I know how far I’ve got to aim for. I don’t think I would enter unless I genuinely thought I had a good chance of doing relatively well.
What are others opinions? Along with the original question, would people enter if they expected not to do well, or would you enter for the experience?
I think only entering if you can win is ridiculous. You’ve no idea who’ll show up on the platform at any given comp. A 400kg raw total might have you first or last on any given day. My training partner lifts at 75kg and did something like 210/135/240. Going on his training he’s good for alot more now.
You’d need 500+ raw to win the open, and prolly 6+ equipped.
How old are you and what are your lifts like now?[/quote]
When I said that I didn’t mean go into a meet expecting to win.
I know what you’re saying with the variation of quality on the day, but in my opinion I wouldn’t dream of entering until I get to what I deem a satisfactory level:
I’m 20, at the mo.
Bench:Not tested, but can put up 120ish for 2 reps
Squat:roughly 190
Dead:175/180
I know I’m nowhere near where I need to be, but as I said I’m gauging against others for possible entry down along the line. Do you compete yourself?
[quote]rock27 wrote:
Hanley wrote:
rock27 wrote:
IainK wrote:
No minimums. Go on the revelvant websites for a fed that you would lift in and check out results. As your in Ireland checkout Irsh Drug Free Powerlifting Association. You could squat 80kg unequipped at your 1st comp. Nobody get’s looked down on for stepping on the platform.
Thanks for your reply.
Was kind of looking for general “winning numbers”(as hard as this may be, I understand that ther’ll be different numbers for different comp.s, countries, etc.) in or around the mentioned weight class. This is partly gauging myself against others, so I know how far I’ve got to aim for. I don’t think I would enter unless I genuinely thought I had a good chance of doing relatively well.
What are others opinions? Along with the original question, would people enter if they expected not to do well, or would you enter for the experience?
I think only entering if you can win is ridiculous. You’ve no idea who’ll show up on the platform at any given comp. A 400kg raw total might have you first or last on any given day. My training partner lifts at 75kg and did something like 210/135/240. Going on his training he’s good for alot more now.
You’d need 500+ raw to win the open, and prolly 6+ equipped.
How old are you and what are your lifts like now?
When I said that I didn’t mean go into a meet expecting to win.
I know what you’re saying with the variation of quality on the day, but in my opinion I wouldn’t dream of entering until I get to what I deem a satisfactory level:
I’m 20, at the mo.
Bench:Not tested, but can put up 120ish for 2 reps
Squat:roughly 190
Dead:175/180
I know I’m nowhere near where I need to be, but as I said I’m gauging against others for possible entry down along the line. Do you compete yourself?[/quote]
How low are you going on that squat? With a dead of 180 and a squat of 190 I’d be guessing it’s not to powerlifting depth. Someone’s deadlift’s usually a good bit less raw (I’d say 30-50kg on average maybe).
I do compete, that’s me in my avatar on the left. I’m lifting down in Limerick in late July (I think) and hoping to do 270/190/255 at 90kg. That’ll be in single ply gear tho.
Where are you based?
My first meet was a little WNPF meet in 2005, I won my class with a whopping 1300 lb. total. The biggest total in the meet was about 2000. It was cool meet but it was mostly kids, novices and nobody that you will see in the PLUSA reankins any time soon.
In the last full meet I lifted in in December- a large two-day APF meet- I came in third in my weight class with a 1974 total. Second place went to a guy that totalled about 2300 and first place to a guy that totalled 2500. Only two or three lifters over 220 totalled under 2000. The best lifters in the Southeast were there.
My point is this- if you want to be petty about it you can find meets where your total looks big. Or you can just shoot for PRs and lift where you have fun. And that’s what it’s all about.
[quote]Hanley wrote:
rock27 wrote:
Hanley wrote:
rock27 wrote:
IainK wrote:
No minimums. Go on the revelvant websites for a fed that you would lift in and check out results. As your in Ireland checkout Irsh Drug Free Powerlifting Association. You could squat 80kg unequipped at your 1st comp. Nobody get’s looked down on for stepping on the platform.
Thanks for your reply.
Was kind of looking for general “winning numbers”(as hard as this may be, I understand that ther’ll be different numbers for different comp.s, countries, etc.) in or around the mentioned weight class. This is partly gauging myself against others, so I know how far I’ve got to aim for. I don’t think I would enter unless I genuinely thought I had a good chance of doing relatively well.
What are others opinions? Along with the original question, would people enter if they expected not to do well, or would you enter for the experience?
I think only entering if you can win is ridiculous. You’ve no idea who’ll show up on the platform at any given comp. A 400kg raw total might have you first or last on any given day. My training partner lifts at 75kg and did something like 210/135/240. Going on his training he’s good for alot more now.
You’d need 500+ raw to win the open, and prolly 6+ equipped.
How old are you and what are your lifts like now?
When I said that I didn’t mean go into a meet expecting to win.
I know what you’re saying with the variation of quality on the day, but in my opinion I wouldn’t dream of entering until I get to what I deem a satisfactory level:
I’m 20, at the mo.
Bench:Not tested, but can put up 120ish for 2 reps
Squat:roughly 190
Dead:175/180
I know I’m nowhere near where I need to be, but as I said I’m gauging against others for possible entry down along the line. Do you compete yourself?
How low are you going on that squat? With a dead of 180 and a squat of 190 I’d be guessing it’s not to powerlifting depth. Someone’s deadlift’s usually a good bit less raw (I’d say 30-50kg on average maybe).
I do compete, that’s me in my avatar on the left. I’m lifting down in Limerick in late July (I think) and hoping to do 270/190/255 at 90kg. That’ll be in single ply gear tho.
Where are you based?[/quote]
It may not be low enough in powerlifting standards. It’s just above before paralell(prob. about 10degrees off quad being paralell to floor).
Those lifts sound very impressive.
I’m based in cork, training in dublin at the mo however.
What gym in limerick you training at? I’m in the pinnacle in dublin, not sure if you know it?
Where in limerick will the meets take place. I may call down to get a feel for what goes on.
[quote]rock27 wrote:
in my opinion I wouldn’t dream of entering until I get to what I deem a satisfactory level[/quote]
this is the wrong attitude. First off you’ve never even competed so how do you even know what a satisfactory level is? Numbers on computer screen don’t mean jack. At this stage you need to focus more on lifting to beat yourself.
Second: you’ll get much better much faster by competing because it gives you real world experience that you can use to compare how strong/weak you are against real people an not a bunch of numbers on a piece of paper. You’ll also get a much better sense as to what areas you need to work on.
Third: having a competition on your calendar acts as a great motivator to create a training regime and stick with it, you’ll make gains faster in my opinion just by having the comp date hanging over your head.
Fourth: competing gives you an opportunity to meet other like-minded people who you may be able to train with or at least get some advice from on how to get stronger.
Fifth: winning a local meet ain’t as prestigious as it used to be. I don’t know what it’s like at meets in Ireland but in the U.S. damn near everybody and their mommas go home with a trophy these days. For a newbie, no one gives a shit where you finish, just getting out there on the platform will earn you respect. Don’t be one of those guys, always waiting until he’s ready'' to enter a competition. there are tons of guys like that in gyms across the world who strangely never seem to feel like their ready’’
[quote]Pinto wrote:
My first meet was a little WNPF meet in 2005, I won my class with a whopping 1300 lb. total. The biggest total in the meet was about 2000. It was cool meet but it was mostly kids, novices and nobody that you will see in the PLUSA reankins any time soon.
In the last full meet I lifted in in December- a large two-day APF meet- I came in third in my weight class with a 1974 total. Second place went to a guy that totalled about 2300 and first place to a guy that totalled 2500. Only two or three lifters over 220 totalled under 2000. The best lifters in the Southeast were there.
My point is this- if you want to be petty about it you can find meets where your total looks big. Or you can just shoot for PRs and lift where you have fun. And that’s what it’s all about.[/quote]
Thanks for the reply.
I’m not being petty. I don’t recall trying to make my total look big at all.
I simply looking for a number to shoot for.
I don’t see anything petty about that, but that’s your opinion.
[quote]robo1 wrote:
rock27 wrote:
in my opinion I wouldn’t dream of entering until I get to what I deem a satisfactory level
this is the wrong attitude. First off you’ve never even competed so how do you even know what a satisfactory level is? Numbers on computer screen don’t mean jack. At this stage you need to focus more on lifting to beat yourself.
Second: you’ll get much better much faster by competing because it gives you real world experience that you can use to compare how strong/weak you are against real people an not a bunch of numbers on a piece of paper. You’ll also get a much better sense as to what areas you need to work on.
Third: having a competition on your calendar acts as a great motivator to create a training regime and stick with it, you’ll make gains faster in my opinion just by having the comp date hanging over your head.
Fourth: competing gives you an opportunity to meet other like-minded people who you may be able to train with or at least get some advice from on how to get stronger.
Fifth: winning a local meet ain’t as prestigious as it used to be. I don’t know what it’s like at meets in Ireland but in the U.S. damn near everybody and their mommas go home with a trophy these days. For a newbie, no one gives a shit where you finish, just getting out there on the platform will earn you respect. Don’t be one of those guys, always waiting until he’s ready'' to enter a competition. there are tons of guys like that in gyms across the world who strangely never seem to feel like their ready’’
[/quote]
Thanks for a very good reply. I take your points fully on board.
It’s not however like I’m one of those people aho are always waiting for the “perfect moment” all the time.
I haven’t evev decided which route I want to go(i.e.Powerlifting or bodybuilding, or possibly giving both a bash).
Yes I am always trying to beat my PR, but I understand what you say in that it’s a lot differnet competing against real people as opposed to online posts.
Yes I haven’t entered yet, so I don’t know what a satisfactory level is. However that is partly the point of these posts.
Also this isn’t about going home with a trophy. I could’t give less of a shit about a trophy.
[quote]rock27 wrote:
It may not be low enough in powerlifting standards. It’s just above before paralell(prob. about 10degrees off quad being paralell to floor).
Those lifts sound very impressive.
I’m based in cork, training in dublin at the mo however.
What gym in limerick you training at? I’m in the pinnacle in dublin, not sure if you know it?
Where in limerick will the meets take place. I may call down to get a feel for what goes on.[/quote]
You’d be surprised how much of a difference it’ll make. You might want to start videoing your lifts so you can look back on them and make sure everything’s in check.
I’m from Dublin, living and training here. I lift out of Hercules Gym on the northside, close to DIT Bolton Street.
The location for the comp in Limerick is as yet undecided as far as I know. There may or may not be one a bit closer to home in late July. The WDFPF European champs are in Monagahan on Saturday and Sunday week too. I’m probably gonna go up on Sunday and have a look.
There’s not realy much in the way of competitions later in the year, nationals and qualifying comps tend to happen earlier in the year, with european and world champs happening later.
[quote]robo1 wrote:
rock27 wrote:
in my opinion I wouldn’t dream of entering until I get to what I deem a satisfactory level
this is the wrong attitude. First off you’ve never even competed so how do you even know what a satisfactory level is? Numbers on computer screen don’t mean jack. At this stage you need to focus more on lifting to beat yourself.
Second: you’ll get much better much faster by competing because it gives you real world experience that you can use to compare how strong/weak you are against real people an not a bunch of numbers on a piece of paper. You’ll also get a much better sense as to what areas you need to work on.
Third: having a competition on your calendar acts as a great motivator to create a training regime and stick with it, you’ll make gains faster in my opinion just by having the comp date hanging over your head.
Fourth: competing gives you an opportunity to meet other like-minded people who you may be able to train with or at least get some advice from on how to get stronger.
Fifth: winning a local meet ain’t as prestigious as it used to be. I don’t know what it’s like at meets in Ireland but in the U.S. damn near everybody and their mommas go home with a trophy these days. For a newbie, no one gives a shit where you finish, just getting out there on the platform will earn you respect. Don’t be one of those guys, always waiting until he’s ready'' to enter a competition. there are tons of guys like that in gyms across the world who strangely never seem to feel like their ready’’
[/quote]
Great post.
[quote]rock27 wrote:
Pinto wrote:
My first meet was a little WNPF meet in 2005, I won my class with a whopping 1300 lb. total. The biggest total in the meet was about 2000. It was cool meet but it was mostly kids, novices and nobody that you will see in the PLUSA reankins any time soon.
In the last full meet I lifted in in December- a large two-day APF meet- I came in third in my weight class with a 1974 total. Second place went to a guy that totalled about 2300 and first place to a guy that totalled 2500. Only two or three lifters over 220 totalled under 2000. The best lifters in the Southeast were there.
My point is this- if you want to be petty about it you can find meets where your total looks big. Or you can just shoot for PRs and lift where you have fun. And that’s what it’s all about.
Thanks for the reply.
I’m not being petty. I don’t recall trying to make my total look big at all.
I simply looking for a number to shoot for.
I don’t see anything petty about that, but that’s your opinion.
[/quote]
I ain’t calling you petty and I’m sorry you took it that way- what I’m saying is that this game is about hitting big weights in a meet. What’s big? Well- that’s all relative in the grand scheme of things. So shoot for PRs- lift against yourself.
[quote]rock27 wrote:
Hi,
just wondering for anybody here that knows, what are the standard amounts of weight generally regarded as the minimum for someone(roughly the 70,75-ishKg mark) hoping to enter a comp.
I don’t think I’m anywhere near where I need to be, but if I have numbers it’s something to strive for.
[/quote]
135 squat/135 bench/135 deadlift
[quote]Pinto wrote:
rock27 wrote:
Pinto wrote:
My first meet was a little WNPF meet in 2005, I won my class with a whopping 1300 lb. total. The biggest total in the meet was about 2000. It was cool meet but it was mostly kids, novices and nobody that you will see in the PLUSA reankins any time soon.
In the last full meet I lifted in in December- a large two-day APF meet- I came in third in my weight class with a 1974 total. Second place went to a guy that totalled about 2300 and first place to a guy that totalled 2500. Only two or three lifters over 220 totalled under 2000. The best lifters in the Southeast were there.
My point is this- if you want to be petty about it you can find meets where your total looks big. Or you can just shoot for PRs and lift where you have fun. And that’s what it’s all about.
Thanks for the reply.
I’m not being petty. I don’t recall trying to make my total look big at all.
I simply looking for a number to shoot for.
I don’t see anything petty about that, but that’s your opinion.
I ain’t calling you petty and I’m sorry you took it that way- what I’m saying is that this game is about hitting big weights in a meet. What’s big? Well- that’s all relative in the grand scheme of things. So shoot for PRs- lift against yourself.
[/quote]
Ok, sorry about misunderstanding.That’s fair enough. Thanks for reply.