[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Alternatively, you may want to consider Rehband knee sleeves. They aren’t supportive and don’t give any carryover but keep the knees warm and cozy. I use those extensively when I’m training. I don’t like to use wraps more than necessary because I hate them.
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I just started squatting with the Rehbands and really love them.
O: how can you hate wraps? That’s practically blasphemous.
Good evening Mrs. Construction Chief of Staff, mam.
I think the hat fits quite nicely O.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Alternatively, you may want to consider Rehband knee sleeves. They aren’t supportive and don’t give any carryover but keep the knees warm and cozy. I use those extensively when I’m training. I don’t like to use wraps more than necessary because I hate them.
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I just started squatting with the Rehbands and really love them.
O: how can you hate wraps? That’s practically blasphemous.[/quote]
They suck up time, slow things down and make my feet scream in pain. Mind you, I can wrap tight as a bitch.
Saturday October 30
Today both BB and Ruggerlife competed in a local open meet and I coached them. I was a bit trepidatious about BB competing because he’d had a lot of shoulder issues recently and I wasn’t even sure he’d be able to walk anything out.
He proved me wrong. He went 7 for 9. He set a national M2 75kg bench record and beat his last best total by 12.5kg. It was a good day and I was very proud of him.
RL also had a successful meet but I think he finally decided that he needs to move up a weight class to really hit his potential.
In other news, I was very proud of one of our local lifters and t-n member Sensgirl. She lifted raw at 52kg and was 10kg short of an IPF masters total which is pretty freaking impressive.
I returned home to train…
Deadlift - raw
135-5
185-3
225-3
255-3x3
275-3
285-1
Deficit sumo deadlifts using 25 plates
145-5
165-5
185-5
205-5
225-3
JM presses
45-12
65-2x10
Weight sit ups with 10 lb db behind my head
3x20
Pass on congrats to all competitors!
That’s great about BB! I get to “coach” someone at a December meet. Should be an interesting experience. I use the word “coach” lightly since I still consider myself such a neophyte.
So you’re currently out-DLing me by 85 lb. raw. I’m closing the gap, girlie. Be scared.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Saturday October 30
He proved me wrong. He went 7 for 9. He set a national M2 75kg bench record and beat his last best total by 12.5kg. It was a good day and I was very proud of him.
3x20[/quote]
How much did he bench?
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
That’s great about BB! I get to “coach” someone at a December meet. Should be an interesting experience. I use the word “coach” lightly since I still consider myself such a neophyte.
So you’re currently out-DLing me by 85 lb. raw. I’m closing the gap, girlie. Be scared.[/quote]
Based on bodyweight, you’d only need to hit about 237 to ‘catch up’. My geared deadlift far exceeds raw because I don’t train raw all that extensively, and I’m weak off the floor which is why my geared lift is relatively good. I think you’ll catch up quickly.
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Saturday October 30
He proved me wrong. He went 7 for 9. He set a national M2 75kg bench record and beat his last best total by 12.5kg. It was a good day and I was very proud of him.
3x20[/quote]
How much did he bench? [/quote]
167.5 at 75kg & 52 years. Pretty respectable given the year of shoulder issues.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]jjackkrash wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
Saturday October 30
He proved me wrong. He went 7 for 9. He set a national M2 75kg bench record and beat his last best total by 12.5kg. It was a good day and I was very proud of him.
3x20[/quote]
How much did he bench? [/quote]
167.5 at 75kg & 52 years. Pretty respectable given the year of shoulder issues.[/quote]
Respectable my ass. That’s freeking awesome.
Or I could just lose 37 pounds and we’d be even.
How much gain do you get from your suit? I don’t get that much, maybe 10%, but the suit really helps me break it off the floor, which is usually my sticking point.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Or I could just lose 37 pounds and we’d be even.
How much gain do you get from your suit? I don’t get that much, maybe 10%, but the suit really helps me break it off the floor, which is usually my sticking point.[/quote]
It’s hard to tell how much I get because I haven’t spent much time on my raw deads. However, 285 is my current raw max and 375 is my current geared max. I’ve spent a lot of time mastering the suit and learning to get a lot of pop off the floor to take advantage of my stronger lock out so that makes it about 32%.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Or I could just lose 37 pounds and we’d be even.
How much gain do you get from your suit? I don’t get that much, maybe 10%, but the suit really helps me break it off the floor, which is usually my sticking point.[/quote]
It’s hard to tell how much I get because I haven’t spent much time on my raw deads. However, 285 is my current raw max and 375 is my current geared max. I’ve spent a lot of time mastering the suit and learning to get a lot of pop off the floor to take advantage of my stronger lock out so that makes it about 32%.[/quote]
good golly miss molly! that’s one hell of a boost from your deadlift suit!
[quote]soldog wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Or I could just lose 37 pounds and we’d be even.
How much gain do you get from your suit? I don’t get that much, maybe 10%, but the suit really helps me break it off the floor, which is usually my sticking point.[/quote]
It’s hard to tell how much I get because I haven’t spent much time on my raw deads. However, 285 is my current raw max and 375 is my current geared max. I’ve spent a lot of time mastering the suit and learning to get a lot of pop off the floor to take advantage of my stronger lock out so that makes it about 32%.[/quote]
good golly miss molly! that’s one hell of a boost from your deadlift suit![/quote]
It certainly is. However, carryover from gear doesn’t come just from donning the gear. There’s a significant amount of work that goes into training with it. In my opinion, geared lifting is a somewhat different sport than raw lifting and requires a different set up and focus. It isn’t more difficult, or easier, just different.
I can’t say what my true carryover is from the suit since I don’t train raw all that much so I don’t really know what my max is. For instance, a few weeks ago, the most I could pull was 275 for a raw single. Today 275 was a triple and 285 was for a single. Three weeks from now? Who knows?
What I do know is that my hips are barking from doing sumo deficits. Good times!
285 is your raw max on deadlifts? That is crazy strong! Wow.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]soldog wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Or I could just lose 37 pounds and we’d be even.
How much gain do you get from your suit? I don’t get that much, maybe 10%, but the suit really helps me break it off the floor, which is usually my sticking point.[/quote]
It’s hard to tell how much I get because I haven’t spent much time on my raw deads. However, 285 is my current raw max and 375 is my current geared max. I’ve spent a lot of time mastering the suit and learning to get a lot of pop off the floor to take advantage of my stronger lock out so that makes it about 32%.[/quote]
good golly miss molly! that’s one hell of a boost from your deadlift suit![/quote]
In my opinion, geared lifting is a somewhat different sport than raw lifting and requires a different set up and focus.
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Very True!! Thats why I find the whole Raw vs Geared debate so silly. Anyone whoes been involved in this sports knows the differences. Nothing bugs me more then when a Raw zelots who wants to run down someones achivements in gear.(of course this is coming from a unequiped lifter) But yeah, Raw ang geared are just variations of the same sport.But both have the same goals. Sorry for the hyjack I just saw what you wrote and I figured id add to it .
P.S. Nice lifting as always 
[quote]bulldog9899 wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]soldog wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Or I could just lose 37 pounds and we’d be even.
How much gain do you get from your suit? I don’t get that much, maybe 10%, but the suit really helps me break it off the floor, which is usually my sticking point.[/quote]
It’s hard to tell how much I get because I haven’t spent much time on my raw deads. However, 285 is my current raw max and 375 is my current geared max. I’ve spent a lot of time mastering the suit and learning to get a lot of pop off the floor to take advantage of my stronger lock out so that makes it about 32%.[/quote]
good golly miss molly! that’s one hell of a boost from your deadlift suit![/quote]
In my opinion, geared lifting is a somewhat different sport than raw lifting and requires a different set up and focus.
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Very True!! Thats why I find the whole Raw vs Geared debate so silly. Anyone whoes been involved in this sports knows the differences. Nothing bugs me more then when a Raw zelots who wants to run down someones achivements in gear.(of course this is coming from a unequiped lifter) But yeah, Raw ang geared are just variations of the same sport.But both have the same goals. Sorry for the hyjack I just saw what you wrote and I figured id add to it .[/quote]
No problem with the hijack. It’s an issue that consistently gets on my nerves as well. I don’t feel like a better lifter because I put up bigger numbers than a raw lifter when I’m using gear. It would be like comparing Formula One race cars to another type of race car. The goal is the same, to be the fastest, but it’s within a different arena of comparison.
Having said that, yesterday’s meet had a lot of raw lifters because there were trophies for raw which is unusual in our federation. The reason I highlighted Sensgirl is because her total would have been an excellent total for a geared lifter and she did it raw. She has smoked past elite in gear some time ago and specifically trained raw for this meet. I was interested to see what would happen and she didn’t disappoint.
Can you hear me biting my tongue from across the Atlantic. I’ve been involved in far too many raw v geared debates so I’m not going to comment.
Signed a conscientious objector.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]soldog wrote:
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
Or I could just lose 37 pounds and we’d be even.
How much gain do you get from your suit? I don’t get that much, maybe 10%, but the suit really helps me break it off the floor, which is usually my sticking point.[/quote]
It’s hard to tell how much I get because I haven’t spent much time on my raw deads. However, 285 is my current raw max and 375 is my current geared max. I’ve spent a lot of time mastering the suit and learning to get a lot of pop off the floor to take advantage of my stronger lock out so that makes it about 32%.[/quote]
good golly miss molly! that’s one hell of a boost from your deadlift suit![/quote]
It certainly is. However, carryover from gear doesn’t come just from donning the gear. There’s a significant amount of work that goes into training with it. In my opinion, geared lifting is a somewhat different sport than raw lifting and requires a different set up and focus. It isn’t more difficult, or easier, just different.
I can’t say what my true carryover is from the suit since I don’t train raw all that much so I don’t really know what my max is. For instance, a few weeks ago, the most I could pull was 275 for a raw single. Today 275 was a triple and 285 was for a single. Three weeks from now? Who knows?
What I do know is that my hips are barking from doing sumo deficits. Good times!
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apologies - I wasn’t making a geared vs. raw statement. It was purely an astounded observation at the numbers. Respect definitely intended!