Possbile Tren A/Test Prop Cycle

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I was thinking of doing a Tren A/Test Prop cycle when I bulk in the fall. I am doing all of my research now to ensure I get everything I need. I have been reading that lower Test dosages seem to limit sides from Tren, rather than the “standard” 3:4 ratio of Tren/Test.

Right now I am proposing:
Weeks 1-8: Tren A 50mg/day
Weeks 1-8: Test Prop 50 mg/day
Weeks 1-8: Arimidex 1 mg/day
Weeks 4-8: hcg 500 ius 2x weekly
Weeks 1-8: Dostinex E3D (dosage??)
PCT: Nolva 40/40/20/20

My goals are to add muscle mass, preferably at least 10 pounds, while maintaining leanness. My diet is extremely good, and I will bump my macros accordingly when I bulk.

Current stats:
Weight: 190
Bodyfat @ ~10-11% (or leaner, I am just giving what it probably is, not what most think)
Squat: ~470
Dead: ~550+
Bench: 450

I have only done 1 cycle before, but if you look at my log, I think it was very successful and I believe I am knowledgeable and disciplined enough to include tren. I kept almost all of my gains, and am actually leaner than when I started that cycle due to my diet and discipline. The reason my bodyweight is lower than when I finished my cycle is b/c I have been cutting bodyfat. I maintained, and gained weight (some fat) up until two months after my first cycle to get my body used to the new mass before I began a cut.

If the sides were to become too harsh on my proposed bulker, I could drop tren A since the acetate would get of my system fast.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Rants?

Thanks.

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I’m in my second week of a T prop/Tren ace cycle. 30mg test, 70mg tren per day and it’s excellent. The only sides I’ve experienced thus far are crazy dreams and I’m ALWAYS thirsty.

A lot of people are liking the high tren, low test cycles these days.

Regarding dostinex, .5mg twice a week is the accepted dose.

Also, those lifts are impressive if they’re raw. Are you a powerlifter?

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I doubt you have a 450 bench and only a 470 squat.

But yes, Ive run 400-500mg/week of tren and high test, a gram, and had no problems, just get a dopamine agonist.

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[quote]I’m in my second week of a T prop/Tren ace cycle. 30mg test, 70mg tren per day and it’s excellent. The only sides I’ve experienced thus far are crazy dreams and I’m ALWAYS thirsty.

A lot of people are liking the high tren, low test cycles these days.

Regarding dostinex, .5mg twice a week is the accepted dose.

Also, those lifts are impressive if they’re raw. Are you a powerlifter? [/quote]

Thanks. Nah I have just always had a lot of strength.

[quote]I doubt you have a 450 bench and only a 470 squat.

But yes, Ive run 400-500mg/week of tren and high test, a gram, and had no problems, just get a dopamine agonist. [/quote]

Don’t be so quick to judge man…because you are wrong. Yes, I am capable of higher poundages on squats and deads, but a nasty knee injury has hindered me from reaching those capabilities. I do not go heavy at all anymore.

I do have a 450 bench, well last time I maxed anyway. Prob realistically around 420 now since I have not been strength training, and also been cutting. I have no reason to lie about my bench b/c I have been a bench monster since I began lifting.

How did you like your cycle? Results?

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[quote]ibedatbo wrote:

[quote]I’m in my second week of a T prop/Tren ace cycle. 30mg test, 70mg tren per day and it’s excellent. The only sides I’ve experienced thus far are crazy dreams and I’m ALWAYS thirsty.

A lot of people are liking the high tren, low test cycles these days.

Regarding dostinex, .5mg twice a week is the accepted dose.

Also, those lifts are impressive if they’re raw. Are you a powerlifter? [/quote]

Thanks. Nah I have just always had a lot of strength.

[quote]I doubt you have a 450 bench and only a 470 squat.

But yes, Ive run 400-500mg/week of tren and high test, a gram, and had no problems, just get a dopamine agonist. [/quote]

Don’t be so quick to judge man…because you are wrong. Yes, I am capable of higher poundages on squats and deads, but a nasty knee injury has hindered me from reaching those capabilities. I do not go heavy at all anymore.

I do have a 450 bench, well last time I maxed anyway. Prob realistically around 420 now since I have not been strength training, and also been cutting. I have no reason to lie about my bench b/c I have been a bench monster since I began lifting.

How did you like your cycle? Results?

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Test loves me. Ive never had problems with it.

And Tren seems to like me in general, I cant say most guys enjoy that exact combination, alot of guys seem to have issues with high test and even fairly moderate levels of tren…

But I loved it, no cardio problems from tren, no night sweats, no appetite problems to speak of, sleeping issues were minimal and sporadic at worst.

Aggression increases were very manageable, high test seems to mellow me out instead of sparking me off, on a high test only cycle, I am generally more mellow and calm than even off cycle, likely due to cortisol suppression, and the mood elevation.

I was also taking a dopamine agonist, which is basically a “happy pill”, antidepressants, so all in all, I was pretty calm and happy the whole cycle through, and strong as a gorilla.

My one noticeable side effect was body heat, I already run at a steady 99.9-100.0 degrees off cycle, no drugs, no ephedrine, no clen, just normal body temp, my doctor told me its somewhat normal and that 98.6 is just an average.

On my test and tren cycle I was absolutely burning up all the time, I live in Texas and my eyes would get glass-ey and glazed over simply from overheating…in the air conditioning…I was legitimately concerned about organ damage from literally running a decent grade fever 24 hours a day.

In the heat I would have to walk brutally slow or I would get dizzy.

I took at least 6-7 cold showers a day. And drank massive amounts of ice water. I wore short sleeves to work everyday instead of proper business attire, I simply had to tell my boss that I was sweating at my desk in a building air conditioned to 70 degrees or so.

Run your cycle in the winter, you can walk around in shorts and a T shirt in brutal weather and your girl will love you, human heat pump, you can heat the whole bed in 20 seconds flat and keep it toasty all night with ease.

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[quote]Westclock wrote:

[quote]ibedatbo wrote:

[quote]I’m in my second week of a T prop/Tren ace cycle. 30mg test, 70mg tren per day and it’s excellent. The only sides I’ve experienced thus far are crazy dreams and I’m ALWAYS thirsty.

A lot of people are liking the high tren, low test cycles these days.

Regarding dostinex, .5mg twice a week is the accepted dose.

Also, those lifts are impressive if they’re raw. Are you a powerlifter? [/quote]

Thanks. Nah I have just always had a lot of strength.

[quote]I doubt you have a 450 bench and only a 470 squat.

But yes, Ive run 400-500mg/week of tren and high test, a gram, and had no problems, just get a dopamine agonist. [/quote]

Don’t be so quick to judge man…because you are wrong. Yes, I am capable of higher poundages on squats and deads, but a nasty knee injury has hindered me from reaching those capabilities. I do not go heavy at all anymore.

I do have a 450 bench, well last time I maxed anyway. Prob realistically around 420 now since I have not been strength training, and also been cutting. I have no reason to lie about my bench b/c I have been a bench monster since I began lifting.

How did you like your cycle? Results?

[/quote]

Test loves me. Ive never had problems with it.

And Tren seems to like me in general, I cant say most guys enjoy that exact combination, alot of guys seem to have issues with high test and even fairly moderate levels of tren…

But I loved it, no cardio problems from tren, no night sweats, no appetite problems to speak of, sleeping issues were minimal and sporadic at worst.

Aggression increases were very manageable, high test seems to mellow me out instead of sparking me off, on a high test only cycle, I am generally more mellow and calm than even off cycle, likely due to cortisol suppression, and the mood elevation.

I was also taking a dopamine agonist, which is basically a “happy pill”, antidepressants, so all in all, I was pretty calm and happy the whole cycle through, and strong as a gorilla.

My one noticeable side effect was body heat, I already run at a steady 99.9-100.0 degrees off cycle, no drugs, no ephedrine, no clen, just normal body temp, my doctor told me its somewhat normal and that 98.6 is just an average.

On my test and tren cycle I was absolutely burning up all the time, I live in Texas and my eyes would get glass-ey and glazed over simply from overheating…in the air conditioning…I was legitimately concerned about organ damage from literally running a decent grade fever 24 hours a day.

In the heat I would have to walk brutally slow or I would get dizzy.

I took at least 6-7 cold showers a day. And drank massive amounts of ice water. I wore short sleeves to work everyday instead of proper business attire, I simply had to tell my boss that I was sweating at my desk in a building air conditioned to 70 degrees or so.

Run your cycle in the winter, you can walk around in shorts and a T shirt in brutal weather and your girl will love you, human heat pump, you can heat the whole bed in 20 seconds flat and keep it toasty all night with ease.[/quote]

Thanks for the insight. I had planned on running my cycle in the late fall/winter so this should work out well. I am not 100% sold on doing this cycle yet, but I am going to do another cycle in that timeframe. I am leaning toward the test/tren b/c I believe it would yield the most results.