Positioning Heavy Dumbbells

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Right here, Sam:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=dumbbell%20bench%20press&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv# [/quote]

Exactly what I do. Lately, instead of dropping them, I’ve been letting the DBs sit on my chest after the last rep, and then I sit up, keeping them in my hands, then stand up.

Anyone have a good method for incline?

This is the video I watched to figure out how to get the heavy dumbbells into position: - YouTube

For incline (and seated shoulder press) I do something similar to this (rest them on my knees, then “kick” them up into position): Incline Dumbell Bench Presses - YouTube

[quote]Plagueis wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Right here, Sam:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=dumbbell%20bench%20press&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#

Exactly what I do. Lately, instead of dropping them, I’ve been letting the DBs sit on my chest after the last rep, and then I sit up, keeping them in my hands, then stand up.

Anyone have a good method for incline?[/quote]

damn, nice stretch marks kid

[quote]Plagueis wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
Right here, Sam:

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=dumbbell%20bench%20press&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#

Exactly what I do. Lately, instead of dropping them, I’ve been letting the DBs sit on my chest after the last rep, and then I sit up, keeping them in my hands, then stand up.

Anyone have a good method for incline?[/quote]

Same as flat. Pull them from the rack. place them against ur thighs while standing in front of the bench. sit down. keep the dumbells toward ur knees and it feels like ur lower leg is doing most of the supporting. Somtims after legs its hard to do this. Sometimes after legs its hard to even sit down to take a shit. lol. But anyway. With the dumbells resting on ur thigh. Kick one toward ur chest, and follow with the second dumbell…only slightly staggered.

That way u can get a good push with both legs. Dont wait until uve pulled the first dumbell all the way into the press position…this would make for an akward second push. once u do it a few times it comes natural. Make sure to keep ur spine straight while loading dumbells too…once u get to 100+ dumbells on incline it could really pull ur shit way outta wack. hope that helps.

You’re fuckin kidding me right?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=dumbbell%20bench%20press&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#

Now I really need to get my weight up. But I like how easily he set up with these.

[quote]pushharder wrote:
I position the DBs the same way as in the videos when doing two handed presses. But I have switched exclusively to one handed flat and incline presses with the 125s and 130s (the heaviest I have in my home gym). That way I can use the other hand to stabilize the DB when getting it into position and make it that much safer for my shoulders.[/quote]

I’m trying to picture this, Push. You’re doing one-handed BENCH presses? Doesn’t the 130 db pull you off to one side of the bench?

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
You’re fuckin kidding me right?

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=dumbbell%20bench%20press&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wv#

Now I really need to get my weight up. But I like how easily he set up with these.[/quote]

Old man strength. lol

[quote]pushharder wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I position the DBs the same way as in the videos when doing two handed presses. But I have switched exclusively to one handed flat and incline presses with the 125s and 130s (the heaviest I have in my home gym). That way I can use the other hand to stabilize the DB when getting it into position and make it that much safer for my shoulders.

I’m trying to picture this, Push. You’re doing one-handed BENCH presses? Doesn’t the 130 db pull you off to one side of the bench?

Do 'em all the time! Takes some serious “core strength” to stabilize but that’s pretty much all I do nowadays in terms of floor and incline presses. I’ve had shoulder issues in the past and doing them this way really seems to help.

The other night I did 8 x 2 x 125 incline (45 degree) and 8 x 4 x 130 in the floor press.

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Sounds pretty harsh on the spine dude.

I just grab the weight, throw them in front of my knees, and sit down. Sometimes I’m scared I will miss the bench and fall on my ass with this heavy ass weight.

[quote]Beast Status wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I position the DBs the same way as in the videos when doing two handed presses. But I have switched exclusively to one handed flat and incline presses with the 125s and 130s (the heaviest I have in my home gym). That way I can use the other hand to stabilize the DB when getting it into position and make it that much safer for my shoulders.

I’m trying to picture this, Push. You’re doing one-handed BENCH presses? Doesn’t the 130 db pull you off to one side of the bench?

Do 'em all the time! Takes some serious “core strength” to stabilize but that’s pretty much all I do nowadays in terms of floor and incline presses. I’ve had shoulder issues in the past and doing them this way really seems to help.

The other night I did 8 x 2 x 125 incline (45 degree) and 8 x 4 x 130 in the floor press.

Sounds pretty harsh on the spine dude.

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Due to a shoulder injury, I also only do single arm presses. I don’t find it stressful on the spine at all. My abs and obliques work hard to stabilize.

Whenever I grab anything higher than 90 I’ll do what most people have already mentioned. Grab the weight off the rack and walk over with the weights in the hammer grip on your thighs.

Make sure that when you fall back onto the bench that you keep the weight touching your chest. It’ll make the first rep a lot more difficult if the weight is out on your knees when you are comin back.

BP

[quote]pushharder wrote:
on edge wrote:
Beast Status wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I position the DBs the same way as in the videos when doing two handed presses. But I have switched exclusively to one handed flat and incline presses with the 125s and 130s (the heaviest I have in my home gym). That way I can use the other hand to stabilize the DB when getting it into position and make it that much safer for my shoulders.

I’m trying to picture this, Push. You’re doing one-handed BENCH presses? Doesn’t the 130 db pull you off to one side of the bench?

Do 'em all the time! Takes some serious “core strength” to stabilize but that’s pretty much all I do nowadays in terms of floor and incline presses. I’ve had shoulder issues in the past and doing them this way really seems to help.

The other night I did 8 x 2 x 125 incline (45 degree) and 8 x 4 x 130 in the floor press.

Sounds pretty harsh on the spine dude.

Due to a shoulder injury, I also only do single arm presses. I don’t find it stressful on the spine at all. My abs and obliques work hard to stabilize.

I think between these and heavy bent over DB and Kroc rows my abs and obliques are getting a killer workout.

I have no idea where the “harsh on the spine” deal comes from.

When I first started doing the single arm presses my abs and obliques would get very sore so I knew I was working them and that was back when I did a lot more isolated ab work than I do now.

Mind you, I do NOT do these for the abs but it is a positive side effect. I do them because I can place my shoulder joint in a more comfortable position during the actual movement AND I can stabilize the DB at the beginning and end of the set with the other hand. This allows me to go much heavier than otherwise (I lift alone 99% of the time).

When first starting these you’ll probably find that you can’t go near as heavy as with the two handed version. But as you strengthen your stabilizers I think things switch around, i.e., you can go heavier for the aforementioned reasons.[/quote]

Im not knocking your teqnique man. If ur growing and getting stronger, thats great. All im saying is I have never heard of doing single arm dumbell presses. I have done 1 arm presses, but used dumbells in both hands and alternated from side to side. My old strength coach was really adimant about making sure u dont overload one side of ur body too much without keeping strict from in mind. If ur doing somthing like dumbell rows, its different because u have ur other hand to sturdy ur self and keep ur spine in a straight line. What ur saying is that ur spotting ur self with your free hand. Which means u are reaching across ur chest to pull on the dumbell u are pressing. Whether u like it or not, reaching across your body while pressing 100+ lb dumbells is putting ur spine in an un-natural alinement. The pressing movement has alot to do with your lats as well. On the downward movement you should be loading ur lats and pulling ur shoulders together to get ready for the press. There is no way you can do this with your “self-spot” method.

I know how tough it is to find a spot somtimes. But it might be in your best interest to find one. Even someone not to strong or experienced could spot a single dumbell pretty well. But either way. God bless your spine. Best of luck man.

got ya.

[quote]Beast Status wrote:
pushharder wrote:
on edge wrote:
Beast Status wrote:
pushharder wrote:
Iron Dwarf wrote:
pushharder wrote:
I position the DBs the same way as in the videos when doing two handed presses. But I have switched exclusively to one handed flat and incline presses with the 125s and 130s (the heaviest I have in my home gym). That way I can use the other hand to stabilize the DB when getting it into position and make it that much safer for my shoulders.

I’m trying to picture this, Push. You’re doing one-handed BENCH presses? Doesn’t the 130 db pull you off to one side of the bench?

Do 'em all the time! Takes some serious “core strength” to stabilize but that’s pretty much all I do nowadays in terms of floor and incline presses. I’ve had shoulder issues in the past and doing them this way really seems to help.

The other night I did 8 x 2 x 125 incline (45 degree) and 8 x 4 x 130 in the floor press.

Sounds pretty harsh on the spine dude.

Due to a shoulder injury, I also only do single arm presses. I don’t find it stressful on the spine at all. My abs and obliques work hard to stabilize.

I think between these and heavy bent over DB and Kroc rows my abs and obliques are getting a killer workout.

I have no idea where the “harsh on the spine” deal comes from.

When I first started doing the single arm presses my abs and obliques would get very sore so I knew I was working them and that was back when I did a lot more isolated ab work than I do now.

Mind you, I do NOT do these for the abs but it is a positive side effect. I do them because I can place my shoulder joint in a more comfortable position during the actual movement AND I can stabilize the DB at the beginning and end of the set with the other hand. This allows me to go much heavier than otherwise (I lift alone 99% of the time).

When first starting these you’ll probably find that you can’t go near as heavy as with the two handed version. But as you strengthen your stabilizers I think things switch around, i.e., you can go heavier for the aforementioned reasons.

Im not knocking your teqnique man. If ur growing and getting stronger, thats great. All im saying is I have never heard of doing single arm dumbell presses. I have done 1 arm presses, but used dumbells in both hands and alternated from side to side. My old strength coach was really adimant about making sure u dont overload one side of ur body too much without keeping strict from in mind. If ur doing somthing like dumbell rows, its different because u have ur other hand to sturdy ur self and keep ur spine in a straight line. What ur saying is that ur spotting ur self with your free hand. Which means u are reaching across ur chest to pull on the dumbell u are pressing. Whether u like it or not, reaching across your body while pressing 100+ lb dumbells is putting ur spine in an un-natural alinement. The pressing movement has alot to do with your lats as well. On the downward movement you should be loading ur lats and pulling ur shoulders together to get ready for the press. There is no way you can do this with your “self-spot” method.

I know how tough it is to find a spot somtimes. But it might be in your best interest to find one. Even someone not to strong or experienced could spot a single dumbell pretty well. But either way. God bless your spine. Best of luck man.

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This is a classic case of someone talking about something with out ever actually having done it. Beast, you’ve got two people who’ve done it both ways and we are both saying the one arm method is good. I’m not saying it’s better, just that it has advantages in some ways and I think safer overall.

The reaching across you keep talking about doesn’t exist. When you steady it with your free hand you hold it straight in front. If you actually reached across, I’m pretty sure you would roll off the bench.

Again, no stress on the spine.

This is a classic case of someone talking about something with out ever actually having done it. Beast, you’ve got two people who’ve done it both ways and we are both saying the one arm method is good. I’m not saying it’s better, just that it has advantages in some ways and I think safer overall.

The reaching across you keep talking about doesn’t exist. When you steady it with your free hand you hold it straight in front. If you actually reached across, I’m pretty sure you would roll off the bench.

Again, no stress on the spine.[/quote]

Your right, i havent done it. i dont do stupid exercises that yank on my spine. Look up some videos of people performing your “1 arm press”. 90% of the dudes who do this exercise, perform it on an exercise ball. That alone proves my point of how gay this exercise is. What happened to old school bench’s, wide grip benches, heavy dumbell’s etc etc etc. The only excuse should be a bum shoulder and its the only way you can press. Other than that…pointless.