Poor Hip-Hop

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jay-Z is probaly the only one you mentioned that ever deserves the praise about him. thats someone who can sell records decade after decade. he doesnt get old, like these other rappers he knows to evolve with the game, they dont.

I knew you would be all over Jay-Z. Why? Because you’re a kid. It seems everyone under 25 thinks Jay-Z is the greatest. The problem is they never heard anything else. In another thread, I mentioned six or seven classic tracks, and you said you never heard any of them. How can you know anything about the greatest, or who’s overrated, or anything when you don’t even know some of the undisputed classics?

"I got an exam, let’s see if y’all pass it
Let’s see who can quote a Daddy Kane line the fastest

-Nas

Do you even know who Big Daddy Kane is?[/quote]

Ironic that Jay-Z (and LL) is also one of the oldest of the names I threw out there still rapping.

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I just want to point out that White lights knows just as much, if not more, rap history than I do.

Bravo, sir. I should revoke my Black card.

Does anyone remember D4L and their hit Laffy Taffy?
Who remembers Drama and his hit “Left, Right, Left”?
Who remembers Gucci man and whatever bullshit he put out?

That shit dies quick. People will recognize Jadakiss, Mobb Deep, DMX, and other rappers who can actually “spit”.

“I got me some bathing apes”

That line is from a Soulja boy song. Funny, but no longevity.

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[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Does anyone remember D4L and their hit Laffy Taffy?
Who remembers Drama and his hit “Left, Right, Left”?
Who remembers Gucci man and whatever bullshit he put out?
[/quote]

No, but I remember these:

1979 - Rapper’s Delight - Sugarhill Gang
- YouTube (actually I don’t remember this when it was released, but I just had to include this)

1983 - White Lines - Grandmaster Flash

1984 - Friends - Whodini

1985 - La Di Da Di - Doug E Fresh

1986 - Walk This Way - Run DMC

1987 - Eric B is President - Eric B & Rakim

1988 - Straight Outta Compton - NWA

1989 - Me, Myself, and I - De La Soul

1990 - Bonita Applebum - A Tribe Called Quest

1991 - Mama Said Knock You Out - LL Cool J

1992 - TROY - Pete Rock & CL Smooth

1993 - Nuthin’ But a G Thang - Dr. Dre

1994 - Dwyck - Gang Starr

1995 - Shook Ones pt 2 - Mobb Deep

1996 - ATLiens - Outkast

1997 - Triumph - Wu Tang Clan

1998 - Still Not a Player - Big Pun

1999 - Guilty Conscience - Eminem

2000 - Quality Control - Jurassic 5

2001 - Ride With Me - Nelly

2002 - The Seed 2.0 - The Roots

2003 - Dirt Off Your Shoulder - Jay Z

2004 - Jesus Walks - Kanye West

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

everyone knows who soulja boy is. if you go to the hood they know who he is, if you go to beverly hills they know who he is, if you go to the swamps they know who he is.

You expect me to believe that someone who can’t even pay for heat knows what people in Beverly Hills know?[/quote]

id think so, i went to Beverly Hills last year. try harder?

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[quote]malonetd wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Jay-Z is probaly the only one you mentioned that ever deserves the praise about him. thats someone who can sell records decade after decade. he doesnt get old, like these other rappers he knows to evolve with the game, they dont.

I knew you would be all over Jay-Z. Why? Because you’re a kid. It seems everyone under 25 thinks Jay-Z is the greatest. The problem is they never heard anything else. In another thread, I mentioned six or seven classic tracks, and you said you never heard any of them. How can you know anything about the greatest, or who’s overrated, or anything when you don’t even know some of the undisputed classics?

“I got an exam, let’s see if y’all pass it
Let’s see who can quote a Daddy Kane line the fastest”

-Nas

Do you even know who Big Daddy Kane is?[/quote]

do i know who BDK is? is that serious question? yes, i listen to rap that isnt backpack. i know a few of his songs but i hate the whole late 80s-early 90s one syllable flows. obviously people older than me are going to like him more because they grew up with him and have a sense of nostalgia when listening to him.

if you arent older than me…or not by much, and you listen to him…you just need to stop trying so hard to be down. anyway, i dont find rappers from that time to be as clever as rappers today. i think any Fabolous freestyle would destroy any early rappers entire career.

i dont know what it is you guys look for in your music. i look for wit, wordplay, punchlines, or pure entertainment.

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[quote]WolBarret wrote:

Does anyone remember D4L and their hit Laffy Taffy?
Who remembers Drama and his hit “Left, Right, Left”?
Who remembers Gucci man and whatever bullshit he put out?

[/quote]

that song was only 2-3 years old, and Shawty Lo came from D4L so yea i think people still know who they are.

i never heard left,right,left

which Gucci Mane song? the one he did a few years ago Jeezy? or the ones he did this year with Rocko, Shawty Lo, OJ Da Juiceman, Gorilla Zoe?

i do feel bad for hip hop, it has the most nerdy fanboys listening to it of any genre.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:

Does anyone remember D4L and their hit Laffy Taffy?
Who remembers Drama and his hit “Left, Right, Left”?
Who remembers Gucci man and whatever bullshit he put out?

that song was only 2-3 years old, and Shawty Lo came from D4L so yea i think people still know who they are.

i never heard left,right,left

which Gucci Mane song? the one he did a few years ago Jeezy? or the ones he did this year with Rocko, Shawty Lo, OJ Da Juiceman, Gorilla Zoe?

i do feel bad for hip hop, it has the most nerdy fanboys listening to it of any genre.[/quote]

I would love to see how you would act walking down the street at night in 3rd Ward Houston, Tx.

I hate I will never get to see that.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:

Does anyone remember D4L and their hit Laffy Taffy?
Who remembers Drama and his hit “Left, Right, Left”?
Who remembers Gucci man and whatever bullshit he put out?

that song was only 2-3 years old, and Shawty Lo came from D4L so yea i think people still know who they are.

i never heard left,right,left

which Gucci Mane song? the one he did a few years ago Jeezy? or the ones he did this year with Rocko, Shawty Lo, OJ Da Juiceman, Gorilla Zoe?

i do feel bad for hip hop, it has the most nerdy fanboys listening to it of any genre.

I would love to see how you would act walking down the street at night in 3rd Ward Houston, Tx.

I hate I will never get to see that.[/quote]

because i dont like big daddy kane you think some shits gonna happen to me? hahaha. i can see it now

“yo where you from __insert southern slang”

“boston, whats good?”

“yo man what you doin out here?”

“oh i was just going to buy a big daddy kane vinyl…you know, aint no half steppin”

“oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit yo i LOVE THAT SONG”

get real prawf.

id love to see you walk down any Mexican neighborhood in LA, South Boston 10 years ago or Charlestown

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:

Does anyone remember D4L and their hit Laffy Taffy?
Who remembers Drama and his hit “Left, Right, Left”?
Who remembers Gucci man and whatever bullshit he put out?

that song was only 2-3 years old, and Shawty Lo came from D4L so yea i think people still know who they are.

i never heard left,right,left

which Gucci Mane song? the one he did a few years ago Jeezy? or the ones he did this year with Rocko, Shawty Lo, OJ Da Juiceman, Gorilla Zoe?

i do feel bad for hip hop, it has the most nerdy fanboys listening to it of any genre.

I would love to see how you would act walking down the street at night in 3rd Ward Houston, Tx.

I hate I will never get to see that.

because i dont like big daddy kane you think some shits gonna happen to me? hahaha. i can see it now

“yo where you from __insert southern slang”

“boston, whats good?”

“yo man what you doin out here?”

“oh i was just going to buy a big daddy kane vinyl…you know, aint no half steppin”

“oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit yo i LOVE THAT SONG”

get real prawf.

id love to see you walk down any Mexican neighborhood in LA. or South Boston 10 years ago.[/quote]

It had nothing to do with anyone else but you. The music isn’t even the issue. You simply fit the profile of the average wannabe who assumes that his shallow understanding of what he sees on BET and MTV equal the foundation of an entire culture that has been around for decades.

I mean, where did you grow up again?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
Professor X wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
WolBarret wrote:

Does anyone remember D4L and their hit Laffy Taffy?
Who remembers Drama and his hit “Left, Right, Left”?
Who remembers Gucci man and whatever bullshit he put out?

that song was only 2-3 years old, and Shawty Lo came from D4L so yea i think people still know who they are.

i never heard left,right,left

which Gucci Mane song? the one he did a few years ago Jeezy? or the ones he did this year with Rocko, Shawty Lo, OJ Da Juiceman, Gorilla Zoe?

i do feel bad for hip hop, it has the most nerdy fanboys listening to it of any genre.

I would love to see how you would act walking down the street at night in 3rd Ward Houston, Tx.

I hate I will never get to see that.

because i dont like big daddy kane you think some shits gonna happen to me? hahaha. i can see it now

“yo where you from __insert southern slang”

“boston, whats good?”

“yo man what you doin out here?”

“oh i was just going to buy a big daddy kane vinyl…you know, aint no half steppin”

“oh shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit yo i LOVE THAT SONG”

get real prawf.

id love to see you walk down any Mexican neighborhood in LA. or South Boston 10 years ago.

It had nothing to do with anyone else but you. The music isn’t even the issue. You simply fit the profile of the average wannabe who assumes that his shallow understanding of what he sees on BET and MTV equal the foundation of an entire culture that has been around for decades.

I mean, where did you grow up again?[/quote]

im a wannabee? how the fuuuuuuuck do you figure? im me. thats it. i dont go around like you clowns listening to music from 10 years ago because i wanna seem down. i just listen to what i like. i dont give a fuck if you like it.

i listen to rap, techno, dancehall, reggaeton. whatevers clever. im not the one talking about how Tupac is the greatest rapper ever, in fact thats how i spot the wannabees.

check my username for where i grew up smarty pants. you think youre tough cause you from Houston? you serious? you arent a gangbanger, you arent a drug dealer, you arent a killer. youre a doctor. you didnt do fed time, you went to medical school. i guess when all other arguments fail you try to play the “im from the hood” card.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:

run dmc fucking sucked.[/quote]

Dude-- do you know how much music would not exist today if not for RunDMC?

Hell, they even influenced my guitar playing.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:

run dmc fucking sucked.

Dude-- do you know how much music would not exist today if not for RunDMC?

Hell, they even influenced my guitar playing.

[/quote]

yeah thats a little too harsh on em from my part. for when they came out they were good. difference is you cant compare them to the rappers out now. have you heard Rev-Run’s new shit? its absolutely awful. i understand what theyve done as far as being pioneers but that doesnt mean i have to like them.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
if you arent older than me…or not by much, and you listen to him…you just need to stop trying so hard to be down. anyway, i dont find rappers from that time to be as clever as rappers today. i think any Fabolous freestyle would destroy any early rappers entire career.

[/quote]

So, no matter how universally agreed upon awful a song is, it’s cool for YOU to like it, because you like what you like? But if I like Kane, I’m trying yo be down? You don’t even make sense, kid.

And I really would love to see who you think of “clever”.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:

id love to see you walk down any Mexican neighborhood in LA[/quote]

I’ve been to plenty of Mexican neighborhoods in LA. I lived there for 8 years.

EDIT: I just saw this wasn’t directed towards me.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:

id love to see you walk down any Mexican neighborhood in LA, South Boston 10 years ago or Charlestown[/quote]

South Boston was a white Irish ghetto. Get your shit straight. I doubt much rap/hip-hop was coming out of there.

The Prof, being black, would be in a bad spot there.

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[quote]Jlabs wrote:
wow this new nas album is tight just started to check it out.
- YouTube

Glad to see mainstream stuff like this. The majority of current rap videos include guys with purses and more jewelry then girls kissing guys on the mouth. 90s rap was manly as hell from mobb deep to atcq. [/quote]

You say mainstream stuff. However and unfortunately, mainstream has come to mean bashing America in anyway possible and denigrating cops.

I listened to the song and I find it ironic that Nas is able to rap about how in America you can “never be free” yet I would like to see him make a record in North Korea where he says “in North Korea you can never be free”. Curious what would happen to him there? Free speech in North Korea? hilarious.

Has Nas made any rap song specifically promoting the military or the troops who protect Nas? Until the time comes when Nas is hiding under his table in his multi million dollar home with a notebook and a pen because of daily terrorist bombings, I don’t think he will realize how free he actually is.

Sorry for the rant. Excuse me while I go play some Wu tang 36 chambers.

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[quote]Footsolider88 wrote:
Jlabs wrote:
wow this new nas album is tight just started to check it out.
- YouTube

Glad to see mainstream stuff like this. The majority of current rap videos include guys with purses and more jewelry then girls kissing guys on the mouth. 90s rap was manly as hell from mobb deep to atcq.

You say mainstream stuff. However and unfortunately, mainstream has come to mean bashing America in anyway possible and denigrating cops. I listened to the song and I find it ironic that Nas is able to rap about how in America you can “never be free” yet I would like to see him make a record in North Korea where he says “in North Korea you can never be free”.

Curious what would happen to him there? Free speech in North Korea? hilarious. Has Nas made any rap song specifically promoting the military or the troops who protect Nas? Until the time comes when Nas is hiding under his table in his multi million dollar home with a notebook and a pen because of daily terrorist bombings, I don’t think he will realize how free he actually is.

Sorry for the rant. Excuse me while I go play some Wu tang 36 chambers.
[/quote]

Bashing America? Because of the song about Fox News? When did Fox News represent America?

I am military and I don’t expect a tribute to the military unless that is his own desire. Are YOU military?

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In my opinion, Soulja Boy is known just like 2 girls 1 cup is.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Footsolider88 wrote:
Jlabs wrote:
wow this new nas album is tight just started to check it out.
- YouTube

Glad to see mainstream stuff like this. The majority of current rap videos include guys with purses and more jewelry then girls kissing guys on the mouth. 90s rap was manly as hell from mobb deep to atcq.

You say mainstream stuff. However and unfortunately, mainstream has come to mean bashing America in anyway possible and denigrating cops. I listened to the song and I find it ironic that Nas is able to rap about how in America you can “never be free” yet I would like to see him make a record in North Korea where he says “in North Korea you can never be free”.

Curious what would happen to him there? Free speech in North Korea? hilarious. Has Nas made any rap song specifically promoting the military or the troops who protect Nas? Until the time comes when Nas is hiding under his table in his multi million dollar home with a notebook and a pen because of daily terrorist bombings, I don’t think he will realize how free he actually is.

Sorry for the rant. Excuse me while I go play some Wu tang 36 chambers.

Bashing America? Because of the song about Fox News? When did Fox News represent America?

I am military and I don’t expect a tribute to the military unless that is his own desire. Are YOU military?[/quote]

If you notice the song I listened to, quoted and referenced was not “Sly FOx”. But since we are on the subject, Nas mentioned in SLy Fox that the only black people who watch Fox are dead or in jail. Since when does NAs speak for all black people? I know Al Sharpton doesn’t.

And it is interesting that Nas associates himself with MOveon.org because let’s not pretend they are a pro America group with George Soros at the helm. They have been openly anti semitic, and have made attacks on Christians as well. They also took out a full page ad in the New York times attacking General Petraeus (ah the memories). WHere were the protests and the signatures then?

I respect the fact that you are in the military and that is why I give to charities that support you/them. I assume that Nas also openly expresses his support for the military and encourages others to give to charity since he associates with other “noble” organizations such as Moveon.org. Does he encourage or is his “desire” lacking?

I don’t expect all rappers or all musicians to do songs or tributes to the military because this is a free society and no one is forcing them to. However, isn’t it strange that lyricists are not stepping up to the mic and expressing even a little pride in being American during a time of war?

Wouldn’t war evoke these feelings even more? Where are the raps expressing the outrage over the beheadings of innocent victims, the suicide bombings, the terrorists who are released from Guantanamo and go back onto the battlefield to resume killing more soldiers, the outrage over Chris Mathews calling troops cold blooded killers? All rappers can come up with is propaganda these days?

i.e. George Bush burned down the towers, lies lies lies blah blah blah. If people only listen to Matt Lauer or Katie Couric or rappers who pretend to know history and politics, they end up feeling guilty of being American rather than proud.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
no one is listening to Run DMC 20 years later.[/quote]

LOL WUT