Hello.
I am looking to cut down a bit. I have recently calculated (pretty accurately i think my meal plan. Here are my stats /// approx. 235lbs - 6’ - not sure my bf% but probably around 15-20%
On training days: 2590 cals - 66 g fat - 176 g protein - 246 g carbs
Non training days: 2110 cals - 65 g fat - 141 g protein - 170 g carbs
I am eating mostly whole foods (raw fruits, veggies, beans, seeds, vegan protein shakes …). I know I’m not getting enough protein but it is a little difficult to get sufficient protein without adding way too many carbs and cals.
I am training 4 days a week (standard bb’ing split) and trying to walk as much as possible every day (especially recovery days). How does this sound? Am I way off?
[quote]Bingbeast wrote:
I am training 4 days a week (standard bb’ing split) and trying to walk as much as possible every day (especially recovery days). How does this sound? Am I way off? [/quote]
Just “trying to walk as much as possible” isn’t an ideal fat loss plan. It’s almost hoping for accidental weight loss. Walking is okay for NEPA, but that’s usually in addition to a primary cardio routine.
If your goal is fat loss, then go full throttle for fat loss. Look into training with complexes.
Nutrition-wise, I like the carb cycling-style plan you have in place, but I’d try to keep the protein at least as high on the lower carb days. If that means relying on more protein shakes, it’s worth it, especially since it’s only a few days each week. On your training days, make sure you earn those extra carbs with balls out lifting and/or cardio.
Sounds like you’ve got a pretty solid build already, so if you keep this up and do it right, you might just find yourself as another poster boy for successful vegan bodybuilders. No pressure though.
[quote]Bingbeast wrote:
I am training 4 days a week (standard bb’ing split) and trying to walk as much as possible every day (especially recovery days). How does this sound? Am I way off? [/quote]
Just “trying to walk as much as possible” isn’t an ideal fat loss plan. It’s almost hoping for accidental weight loss. Walking is okay for NEPA, but that’s usually in addition to a primary cardio routine.
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It actually depends on the kind of walking you are doing. Try 3.5 mph with a 50 lb vest for an hour and get back to me about that primary cardio routine.
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Or try walking 6mph at a 70 degree incline for an hour!
[quote]Bingbeast wrote:
Did you try going Vegan for a few weeks as an experiment? I read it somewhere but I don’t remember if it was you or not?
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Dr. John Berardi, I believe.[/quote]
Berardi went ovo-vegetarian for about five weeks.
I did an eight week experiment where I was lacto-ovo vegetarian for two weeks, then dropped the eggs and went lacto-vegetarian for two weeks, and wrapped up with a straight vegan diet for four weeks.
[quote]MODOK wrote:
Try 3.5 mph with a 50 lb vest for an hour and get back to me about that primary cardio routine.
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Or try walking 6mph at a 70 degree incline for an hour![/quote]
I think we can agree that those types of workouts (which I’d consider legit cardio) are not at all what the OP implied when he said “trying to walk as much as possible everyday.”
Weighted walking or fast-paced, high incline walking is much more intense, and much more directly applicable to fat loss, than putting on a pedometer and logging 10,000 steps a day.
[quote]AceRock wrote:
Pics or it didn’t happen. ;)[/quote]
Yep, I call troll. I’ve have seen the “I am a vegan” thing up here too many times. Why doesn’t somebody troll with something unique, like “I am a cannibal 7th Day Adventist who wants some advice on how to bulk up”?
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
I think you can clearly see this lifestyle choice is hindering your goals.[/quote]
And you came to this conclusion how, considering he’s about 25 pounds heavier than you at a nearly identical height and is already above-average in terms of size (and strength, based on his past posts) compared to others on this site?
Just a thought,
I know that people have a varying metabolism.
If the op is 6ft at 235 and around 17% BF, he has over 190lb of lbm.
Shouldn’t he be losing weight pretty was fast when eating around 2500Calories a day?
Unless he has lost a lot of weight already and his metabolism is slowing down massively, he should be dropping weights like no other assuming his BF measurements are off.
Once again, I am not calling you out OP, just stating my observations.
The meat at the supermarket…it’s done, it’s over, it’s dead. You can’t save it. But you also don’t want to be part of the system that kills all these animals.
So wait until the meat is about to be thrown away, near closing time for the supermarket, and then do the world a favor and buy it. You get to buy it late at night so no one is really going to see you and you have to cook it (if you’re into that sort of thing) and eat it after, so likely none of your friends and family will know about it.
I must say I’m surprised you’re a vegan male at 230lbs…usually only the female vegans get up to that weight.
Something tells me OP didn’t get that big by eating a clean vegan diet. If you did, though, kudos.
Also, I don’t think the OP was asking for advice on his choice to be vegan. I would be interested to hear the reasoning, however. So, my advice is that your macros don’t seem too bad considering your dietary restrictions. And, everybody is a little different, but some extra “cardio” shouldn’t be horrible for recovery. I’d like to see how this totally vegan bb-ing goes… never saw anything about a followup for Berardi.
my meal plan. Here are my stats /// approx. 235lbs - 6’ - not sure my bf% but probably around 15-20%