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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

"While a gain of ten pounds seems like a huge deal to most athletes, the truth is that it’s actually a trivial amount of muscle mass over an entire body. Have a look at this picture of 5 pounds of muscle vs. 5 pounds of fat.

“Now, imagine spreading two of the red masses on the right over the course of an entire body; you would barely notice they’re there, especially if you’re tall.”[/quote]

hopefull sometime next week should be going to get a bf% and lbm estimate.

almost ~5 kgs down :smiley: , shoulders starting to look good. will be posting new pics on 6 weeks, am ~ 4 weeks now

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

"While a gain of ten pounds seems like a huge deal to most athletes, the truth is that it’s actually a trivial amount of muscle mass over an entire body. Have a look at this picture of 5 pounds of muscle vs. 5 pounds of fat.

“Now, imagine spreading two of the red masses on the right over the course of an entire body; you would barely notice they’re there, especially if you’re tall.”[/quote]

That image is complete horse shit.

Bf has a density of about 0.9gm/cm3 and muscle has a density of about 1.1gm/cm3.

Somehow that image doesn’t compute…

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

"While a gain of ten pounds seems like a huge deal to most athletes, the truth is that it’s actually a trivial amount of muscle mass over an entire body. Have a look at this picture of 5 pounds of muscle vs. 5 pounds of fat.

“Now, imagine spreading two of the red masses on the right over the course of an entire body; you would barely notice they’re there, especially if you’re tall.”[/quote]

That image is complete horse shit.

Bf has a density of about 0.9gm/cm3 and muscle has a density of about 1.1gm/cm3.

Somehow that image doesn’t compute…[/quote]

Maybe horseshit has a fat and muscle composite.

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lol, but is it true what marzouks saying?

brb googlig

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Lol. Good call.

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[quote]kinetics.1981 wrote:

lol, but is it true what marzouks saying?

brb googlig[/quote]

Well?

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

"While a gain of ten pounds seems like a huge deal to most athletes, the truth is that it’s actually a trivial amount of muscle mass over an entire body. Have a look at this picture of 5 pounds of muscle vs. 5 pounds of fat.

“Now, imagine spreading two of the red masses on the right over the course of an entire body; you would barely notice they’re there, especially if you’re tall.”[/quote]

That image is complete horse shit.

Bf has a density of about 0.9gm/cm3 and muscle has a density of about 1.1gm/cm3.

Somehow that image doesn’t compute…[/quote]

yeah your ~ right

being accurate , muscle density is 1.06 g/ml but if you round it up its what you said , 1.1.

Source : Source:
The Journals of Gerontology Series A: Biological Sciences and Medical Sciences 56:B191-B197 (2001)
Specific Force Deficit in Skeletal Muscles of Old Rats Is Partially Explained by the Existence of Denervated Muscle Fibers
Melanie G. Urbancheka, Elisa B. Pickenb, Loree K. Kalliainenc & William M. Kuzon, Jr.a,d Journals of Gerontology Series A: Biological Sciences and Medical Sciences -- Sign In Page
Reference given by the authors: Mendez J, Keys A, 1960. Density& composition of mammalian muscle. Metabolism 9:184-188.)

The density of fat (adipose tissue) is about 0.9 g/ml

Source : Association of adiponectin and resistin with adipose tissue compartments, insulin resistance and dyslipidaemia
M. S. Farvid1, T. W. K. Ng2, D. C. Chan2, P. H. R. Barrett2 and G. F.

:slight_smile:

So what a good picture comparison looks like marzouk? Would you please poost a near approximation.Thanks

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For the same weight, fat takes up 22% more volume. Not a picture, but I think you can probably visualize that.

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[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]kinetics.1981 wrote:

lol, but is it true what marzouks saying?

brb googlig[/quote]

Well?[/quote]

Depends on the what the horse had in it’s last meal ;0

In answer to marzouke’s statement: "That image is complete horse shit.

Bf has a density of about 0.9gm/cm3 and muscle has a density of about 1.1gm/cm3.

Somehow that image doesn’t compute…"

I’m tired of a few insinuations or intimations especially of a disparaging or a derogatory nature of my posts on this one thread.

Nothing I’ve written in this thread has been purposely misleading and I’ve gone to a certain amount of trouble to link references.

You’re beginning to make me think I’m a guest on ABC’s the “VIEW” where Joyless Bayhar and Whoopi Goldburg expel diahrrea at anyone that doesn’t agree with them.

I linked to yesterdays featured T-Nation authors article and the FOURTH picture down mentions muscle vs fat volume so take it up with “Functional Bodybuilding by Nick Tumminello 9/27/2012”

Everything I’ve written has had links to back it up. Two of them have been from T-Nation featured articles not posts written anonymously.

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[quote]kinetics.1981 wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]conservativedog wrote:

"While a gain of ten pounds seems like a huge deal to most athletes, the truth is that it’s actually a trivial amount of muscle mass over an entire body. Have a look at this picture of 5 pounds of muscle vs. 5 pounds of fat.

“Now, imagine spreading two of the red masses on the right over the course of an entire body; you would barely notice they’re there, especially if you’re tall.”[/quote]

That image is complete horse shit.

Bf has a density of about 0.9gm/cm3 and muscle has a density of about 1.1gm/cm3.

Somehow that image doesn’t compute…[/quote]

yeah your ~ right

being accurate , muscle density is 1.06 g/ml but if you round it up its what you said , 1.1.

Source : Source:
The Journals of Gerontology Series A: Biological Sciences and Medical Sciences 56:B191-B197 (2001)
Specific Force Deficit in Skeletal Muscles of Old Rats Is Partially Explained by the Existence of Denervated Muscle Fibers
Melanie G. Urbancheka, Elisa B. Pickenb, Loree K. Kalliainenc & William M. Kuzon, Jr.a,d Journals of Gerontology Series A: Biological Sciences and Medical Sciences -- Sign In Page
Reference given by the authors: Mendez J, Keys A, 1960. Density& composition of mammalian muscle. Metabolism 9:184-188.)

The density of fat (adipose tissue) is about 0.9 g/ml

Source : Association of adiponectin and resistin with adipose tissue compartments, insulin resistance and dyslipidaemia
M. S. Farvid1, T. W. K. Ng2, D. C. Chan2, P. H. R. Barrett2 and G. F.

:slight_smile:

So what a good picture comparison looks like marzouk? Would you please poost a near approximation.Thanks[/quote]

Unfortunately i don’t have one / cba looking for one. But going off the densities the difference is similar to the density of ice vs the density of water.

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[quote]conservativedog wrote:

[quote]Marzouk wrote:

[quote]kinetics.1981 wrote:

lol, but is it true what marzouks saying?

brb googlig[/quote]

Well?[/quote]

Depends on the what the horse had in it’s last meal ;0

In answer to marzouke’s statement:

"That image is complete horse shit.

Bf has a density of about 0.9gm/cm3 and muscle has a density of about 1.1gm/cm3.

Somehow that image doesn’t compute…"

I’m tired of the insinuation or intimation especially of a disparaging or a derogatory nature of my posts on this one thread.

Nothing I’ve written in this thread has been purposely misleading and I’ve gone to a certain amount of trouble to link references.

You’re beginning to make me think I’m a guest on ABC’s the “VIEW” where Joyless Bayhar and Whoopi Goldburg expel diahrrea at anyone that doesn’t agree with them.

I linked to yesterdays featured T-Nation authors article and the FOURTH picture down mentions muscle vs fat volume so take it up with “Functional Bodybuilding by Nick TumminelloÃ?¢ 9/27/2012”

Everything I’ve written has had links to back it up. Two of them have been from T-Nation featured articles not posts written anonymously.

[/quote]

I feel for ya, But i think this warrants a ‘Cool story bro’ :wink:

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[quote]LoRez wrote:
For the same weight, fat takes up 22% more volume. Not a picture, but I think you can probably visualize that.[/quote]

This is getting way too complicated to research advice and help a dude who doesn’t even DEADLIFT!!