Phil Heath

Training
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[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.

Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.

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You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]

Nah, I think he’s just mad that people said that synthol use is widespread (despite noone insulting anyone for using it), and he’s mad that someone would imply his hero Philsulina would ever touch the stuff.

I mean, just look at the man. He has supreme genetics! Look at the supreme genetics on that left calf!
Haters just hating because insecure. Mad? Yeah mad haterzzzzzzzz

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What show was this pic from? I can’t believe anybody could miss that, looks like he has a tumor growing out of his calf.

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[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.

Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.

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You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]

You didn’t catch my point, nor did I direct any statement towards you, Putter.

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Apologies, given the lack of direction at anyone i had to assume context and only used todays posts to do so. My bad x[/quote]

No worries.

And I agree with your previous statement. I immensely respect the top guys in natty AND pro arenas, and have been to both pro and natty shows in support of this sport that I love.

Since drug usage is a given within the pro arena, anyone making the assertion that a particular competitor’s recent gains can only be attributed to drug use is not only ridiculous, but it’s also disrespectful.

If Phil Heath was a natty competitor and someone asked what routine he did to get his arms up so much recently, this wouldn’t have even been an issue in this forum. But some here choose to turn these threads into a pissing contest with other posters.

Thanks for your maturity in your response, Putter, and for allowing me to explain my stance without some ridiculous retort.

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I can see the goal of some of these posters is to make this site like Getbig.

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[quote]Matthaeus wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.

Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.

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You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]

Nah, I think he’s just mad that people said that synthol use is widespread (despite noone insulting anyone for using it), and he’s mad that someone would imply his hero Philsulina would ever touch the stuff.

I mean, just look at the man. He has supreme genetics! Look at the supreme genetics on that left calf!
Haters just hating because insecure. Mad? Yeah mad haterzzzzzzzz

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What show was this pic from? I can’t believe anybody could miss that, looks like he has a tumor growing out of his calf. [/quote]

That’s the angle. I haven’t seen any sign of synthol use in his calves at all…and his calves have been featured fairly well over the years.

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[quote]Matthaeus wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.

Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.

[/quote]
You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]

Nah, I think he’s just mad that people said that synthol use is widespread (despite noone insulting anyone for using it), and he’s mad that someone would imply his hero Philsulina would ever touch the stuff.

I mean, just look at the man. He has supreme genetics! Look at the supreme genetics on that left calf!
Haters just hating because insecure. Mad? Yeah mad haterzzzzzzzz

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What show was this pic from? I can’t believe anybody could miss that, looks like he has a tumor growing out of his calf. [/quote]

not sure… i think it’s 08 or 09

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[quote]Matthaeus wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.

Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.

[/quote]
You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]

Nah, I think he’s just mad that people said that synthol use is widespread (despite noone insulting anyone for using it), and he’s mad that someone would imply his hero Philsulina would ever touch the stuff.

I mean, just look at the man. He has supreme genetics! Look at the supreme genetics on that left calf!
Haters just hating because insecure. Mad? Yeah mad haterzzzzzzzz

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What show was this pic from? I can’t believe anybody could miss that, looks like he has a tumor growing out of his calf. [/quote]

And to the general public, his whole body probably looks like it’s covered in tumors.
lol

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Matthaeus wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.

Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.

[/quote]
You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]

Nah, I think he’s just mad that people said that synthol use is widespread (despite noone insulting anyone for using it), and he’s mad that someone would imply his hero Philsulina would ever touch the stuff.

I mean, just look at the man. He has supreme genetics! Look at the supreme genetics on that left calf!
Haters just hating because insecure. Mad? Yeah mad haterzzzzzzzz

[/quote]

What show was this pic from? I can’t believe anybody could miss that, looks like he has a tumor growing out of his calf. [/quote]

And to the general public, his whole body probably looks like it’s covered in tumors.
lol
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That would be true. Also, some of these guys could do well looking at more bodies to get a sense of what differences are truly due to an unnaturally shaped muscle and what is a picture at an angle the viewer isn’t used to.

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[quote]zraw wrote:
WHAT MAKES YOU BLOW UP PAST NPC LEVELS…

ALL TOGETHER NOW PUPILS…

ROUTINES, YES MY PUPILS, NOT THE GH NOT THE INSULINA NOT THE TRENBOLONA ACETATo, THIS WE ALL KNOW ABOUT ALREADY

ITS THE ROUTINE. GO FROM 6 SETS TO 9 SETS TO GO FROM BRANCHY WARANT BICEPS TO PHILSULINA BLOWUP ARMS

THIS MY FRIEND IS THE CULT AND THEY TRY TO HIDE IT FROM YOU. BUT NOT ANYMORE[/quote]

Hahaha someone is going to read this and believe it to be gospel…how dare you, zraw, no better than the false natural filt!

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Matthaeus wrote:

[quote]want2getlean wrote:

[quote]putter2712 wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.

Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.

[/quote]
You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]

Nah, I think he’s just mad that people said that synthol use is widespread (despite noone insulting anyone for using it), and he’s mad that someone would imply his hero Philsulina would ever touch the stuff.

I mean, just look at the man. He has supreme genetics! Look at the supreme genetics on that left calf!
Haters just hating because insecure. Mad? Yeah mad haterzzzzzzzz

[/quote]

What show was this pic from? I can’t believe anybody could miss that, looks like he has a tumor growing out of his calf. [/quote]

And to the general public, his whole body probably looks like it’s covered in tumors.
lol
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That would be true. Also, some of these guys could do well looking at more bodies to get a sense of what differences are truly due to an unnaturally shaped muscle and what is a picture at an angle the viewer isn’t used to.[/quote]

True. Also, the pic is cutting off Phil’s feet. If we could see them, we’d see that his heel is up and he’s on the balls of his foot flexing the calf. Seeing it that way would make it appear more natural.

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What’s fucked up…and what will cause more people to avoid this area, is the constant call outs and the ridiculous attitude we are seeing on this forum lately.

This thread is about Phil. If you are in it to gripe about someone else or to throw more insults, find a new forum.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.

Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.

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Funny enough.its.the.desillusionnals.ppl.like.you that.seem.to.think.drug.usage.is negative. No.one.said.Phil.or any other pro was a.piece.of shit for using.synthol. we all.agreed.it.was.a.normal.thing.to do

You see.it as hating cause.you want.to.see.it.that.way
Get a clue

Elite.genetics.dont.do.it.alone. it does however.enhance.the.results.of.good.training,nutrition and.(omg.hating).drugSSSS use[/quote]

Think you’re clever with your little periods in between every word?

I think you need some tampons and maxi-pads with all your periods.

And I never said drug usage was negative. I CHOOSE not to use, just like I CHOOSE not to use marijuana even though I think it should be legalized.

I have a problem with those of you who think roids is THE reason someone made better progress. Is that YOUR reason for your own growth spurts?[/quote]

Terrible news

I was hoping to spark up with you one day

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Dude, THAT would be so worth it!

I assure you if we meet, I’ll indulge. You better have the good stuff on hand.

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Like you have to question the quality of my supply…

I got that George Clinton shit

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s fucked up…and what will cause more people to avoid this area, is the constant call outs and the ridiculous attitude we are seeing on this forum lately.

This thread is about Phil. If you are in it to gripe about someone else or to throw more insults, find a new forum. [/quote]

Not only am I considering avoiding this thread, but the entire Bodybuilding section entirely.

T-Nation is heading for the shitter really fast.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s fucked up…and what will cause more people to avoid this area, is the constant call outs and the ridiculous attitude we are seeing on this forum lately.

This thread is about Phil. If you are in it to gripe about someone else or to throw more insults, find a new forum. [/quote]

You’re a moderator. Start using your mod power and ban some people.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s fucked up…and what will cause more people to avoid this area, is the constant call outs and the ridiculous attitude we are seeing on this forum lately.

This thread is about Phil. If you are in it to gripe about someone else or to throw more insults, find a new forum. [/quote]

Not only am I considering avoiding this thread, but the entire Bodybuilding section entirely.

T-Nation is heading for the shitter really fast. [/quote]

They think they’re funny.

There are too many people complaining right now about it.

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[quote]DeltaOne wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s fucked up…and what will cause more people to avoid this area, is the constant call outs and the ridiculous attitude we are seeing on this forum lately.

This thread is about Phil. If you are in it to gripe about someone else or to throw more insults, find a new forum. [/quote]

You’re a moderator. Start using your mod power and ban some people.[/quote]

Just a question…but if I had started off doing that, what do you think the response would have been?

The only way to show a need for it…was to allow them to keep typing.

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Gotta say, I like that the Professor doesn’t throw out bans or edit posts willy-nilly. Free speech is a good thing.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DeltaOne wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s fucked up…and what will cause more people to avoid this area, is the constant call outs and the ridiculous attitude we are seeing on this forum lately.

This thread is about Phil. If you are in it to gripe about someone else or to throw more insults, find a new forum. [/quote]

You’re a moderator. Start using your mod power and ban some people.[/quote]

Just a question…but if I had started off doing that, what do you think the response would have been?

The only way to show a need for it…was to allow them to keep typing.[/quote]

You are right. And I forget T-Nation’s essentially relies on these forums and the main website as a whole to sell their products and essentially banning someone is scaring away a potential customer, my bad.

Free speech is a good thing indeed. But I don’t see why you and some good posters like ID keep arguing in threads when you know it’s gone downhill. It’s like throwing gas in a fire pit to kill the flames.

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[quote]DeltaOne wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DeltaOne wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
What’s fucked up…and what will cause more people to avoid this area, is the constant call outs and the ridiculous attitude we are seeing on this forum lately.

This thread is about Phil. If you are in it to gripe about someone else or to throw more insults, find a new forum. [/quote]

You’re a moderator. Start using your mod power and ban some people.[/quote]

Just a question…but if I had started off doing that, what do you think the response would have been?

The only way to show a need for it…was to allow them to keep typing.[/quote]

You are right. And I forget T-Nation’s essentially relies on these forums and the main website as a whole to sell their products and essentially banning someone is scaring away a potential customer, my bad.

Free speech is a good thing indeed. But I don’t see why you and some good posters like ID keep arguing in threads when you know it’s gone downhill. It’s like throwing gas in a fire pit to kill the flames.
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I’ve actually tried to avoid this lately. We just have some posters who will act like this no matter what gets posted. This thread is a prime example.

The key to getting it back on track is for the contributing members who don’t act like this to speak up.

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[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
Gotta say, I like that the Professor doesn’t throw out bans or edit posts willy-nilly. Free speech is a good thing.[/quote]

That’s true, and credit to him for that.

I don’t understand why the negative connotation with SEO or anything like that? Bodybuilding is not healthy, and is in fact a pretty fucked up sport. But all that matters at the end of the day is how one looks on stage, not what he did to get there. No need to look down on anyone for the methods required to get there. Phil Heath is the best bodybuilder on the planet, that’s almost indisputable. Him using SEO, so long as the results are good, doesn’t take away from that.

Why have bodybuilders been getting larger and larger each decade? You think the gene pool is improving at that rate? If anything, being that bodybuilding is less popular than it was in years prior, its getting smaller.

You think advances in training/nutrition are responsible for that? Please, all the stuff we’re doing nowadays has been done before.

No, it’s advances in drug usage. If that bothers you, than maybe this isn’t the right sport for you. But make no mistake, even the “good responders” are doing everything they can to be big, lean & dry on stage.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
The key to getting it back on track is for the contributing members who don’t act like this to speak up.[/quote]
I think lately more people are - it’s got to breaking point where it’s just fucking annoying having every thread turn in to a shitstorm - threads that are otherwise perfectly fine. Like DeltaOne hasn’t posted in a while so it’s good to see him back.