[quote]whatever2k wrote:
Holy crap, makes branch look like a child:O[/quote]
I saw these two standing next to each other at the Europa and Branch looked SMALL!!
[quote]whatever2k wrote:
Holy crap, makes branch look like a child:O[/quote]
I saw these two standing next to each other at the Europa and Branch looked SMALL!!
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
You have to do it for yourself. Natural bodybuilding is one of the most thankless activities IMO…you’ll struggle to show up on stage at a dry 170-175, and if you look too good people will just think you’re using PEDs. Not to mention the 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards process that occurs anytime life gets in the way of your routine.
I have so much respect for Stu for doing what he does year after year. The progress comes very slow at that level, and it’s so easy to backslide anytime training/diet is neglected. So much heart & dedication needed for that, and I’m happy to see him succeed.
Lots of natural competitors use anyhow because they don’t respond well to steroids & couldn’t hang at an untested show. Don’t let them get you down, and if a competitor who has clearly been using places above you, try not to let it get to you.
You look good though and seem dedicated, I wish you the best of luck & success in your endeavors.[/quote]
Appreciate it. That’s exactly it, I’m only doing it for myself and to try and do something which very few people will believe possible. I realise it is an extremely gradual road for naturals and indeed I may not have the genetics to take it to Stu’s sort of level. But there is only one way to find out… by years of hard work and experimentation.
[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Where does the ab-abber 2000 fall in this? I need to know who to look down on.
http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Ab-Abber_2000[/quote]
Oh man, Homestarrunner! I haven’t been there in years. What a great site.
Carry on.
[quote]jake_j_m wrote:
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
You have to do it for yourself. Natural bodybuilding is one of the most thankless activities IMO…you’ll struggle to show up on stage at a dry 170-175, and if you look too good people will just think you’re using PEDs. Not to mention the 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards process that occurs anytime life gets in the way of your routine.
I have so much respect for Stu for doing what he does year after year. The progress comes very slow at that level, and it’s so easy to backslide anytime training/diet is neglected. So much heart & dedication needed for that, and I’m happy to see him succeed.
Lots of natural competitors use anyhow because they don’t respond well to steroids & couldn’t hang at an untested show. Don’t let them get you down, and if a competitor who has clearly been using places above you, try not to let it get to you.
You look good though and seem dedicated, I wish you the best of luck & success in your endeavors.[/quote]
Appreciate it. That’s exactly it, I’m only doing it for myself and to try and do something which very few people will believe possible. I realise it is an extremely gradual road for naturals and indeed I may not have the genetics to take it to Stu’s sort of level. But there is only one way to find out… by years of hard work and experimentation.
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Completely agree with you bro and right there with ya ![]()
[quote]Proud_Virgin wrote:
You have to do it for yourself. Natural bodybuilding is one of the most thankless activities IMO…you’ll struggle to show up on stage at a dry 170-175, and if you look too good people will just think you’re using PEDs. Not to mention the 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards process that occurs anytime life gets in the way of your routine.
I have so much respect for Stu for doing what he does year after year. The progress comes very slow at that level, and it’s so easy to backslide anytime training/diet is neglected. So much heart & dedication needed for that, and I’m happy to see him succeed.
Lots of natural competitors use anyhow because they don’t respond well to steroids & couldn’t hang at an untested show. Don’t let them get you down, and if a competitor who has clearly been using places above you, try not to let it get to you.
You look good though and seem dedicated, I wish you the best of luck & success in your endeavors.[/quote]
Great post,especially 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards part. And yeah ,Stu is a stud.
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
Natty competitive bbing is like wheelchair basketball, sure the athletes may be trying hard, but the result is just not impressive.
[quote]Anus Bleach wrote:
Natty competitive bbing is like wheelchair basketball, sure the athletes may be trying hard, but the result is just not impressive.[/quote]
Really? Have you seen The Mighty Stu?
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
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You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
[/quote]
Funny enough.its.the.desillusionnals.ppl.like.you that.seem.to.think.drug.usage.is negative. No.one.said.Phil.or any other pro was a.piece.of shit for using.synthol. we all.agreed.it.was.a.normal.thing.to do
You see.it as hating cause.you want.to.see.it.that.way
Get a clue
Elite.genetics.dont.do.it.alone. it does however.enhance.the.results.of.good.training,nutrition and.(omg.hating).drugSSSS use
[quote]Anus Bleach wrote:
Natty competitive bbing is like wheelchair basketball, sure the athletes may be trying hard, but the result is just not impressive.[/quote]
Nah, I think the end result is great.
But the process? Unrewarding as FUCK. At least for me.
As someone who’s been natural for a while, it’s the most frustrating thing. I put in 200% effort, I’m obsessively and religiously strict with everything, but my grams of gear buddies leave me in the dust. Eh, such is life.
[quote]putter2712 wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
[/quote]
You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]
Nah, I think he’s just mad that people said that synthol use is widespread (despite noone insulting anyone for using it), and he’s mad that someone would imply his hero Philsulina would ever touch the stuff.
I mean, just look at the man. He has supreme genetics! Look at the supreme genetics on that left calf!
Haters just hating because insecure. Mad? Yeah mad haterzzzzzzzz
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
[/quote]
Funny enough.its.the.desillusionnals.ppl.like.you that.seem.to.think.drug.usage.is negative. No.one.said.Phil.or any other pro was a.piece.of shit for using.synthol. we all.agreed.it.was.a.normal.thing.to do
You see.it as hating cause.you want.to.see.it.that.way
Get a clue
Elite.genetics.dont.do.it.alone. it does however.enhance.the.results.of.good.training,nutrition and.(omg.hating).drugSSSS use[/quote]
Think you’re clever with your little periods in between every word?
I think you need some tampons and maxi-pads with all your periods.
And I never said drug usage was negative. I CHOOSE not to use, just like I CHOOSE not to use marijuana even though I think it should be legalized.
I have a problem with those of you who think roids is THE reason someone made better progress. Is that YOUR reason for your own growth spurts?
[quote]putter2712 wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
[/quote]
You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]
You didn’t catch my point, nor did I direct any statement towards you, Putter.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
[/quote]
Funny enough.its.the.desillusionnals.ppl.like.you that.seem.to.think.drug.usage.is negative. No.one.said.Phil.or any other pro was a.piece.of shit for using.synthol. we all.agreed.it.was.a.normal.thing.to do
You see.it as hating cause.you want.to.see.it.that.way
Get a clue
Elite.genetics.dont.do.it.alone. it does however.enhance.the.results.of.good.training,nutrition and.(omg.hating).drugSSSS use[/quote]
Think you’re clever with your little periods in between every word?
I think you need some tampons and maxi-pads with all your periods.
And I never said drug usage was negative. I CHOOSE not to use, just like I CHOOSE not to use marijuana even though I think it should be legalized.
I have a problem with those of you who think roids is THE reason someone made better progress. Is that YOUR reason for your own growth spurts?[/quote]
Terrible news
I was hoping to spark up with you one day
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I CHOOSE not to use, just like I CHOOSE not to use marijuana even though I think it should be legalized.[/quote]
Hey, that’s cool and all bro
But
Noone cares
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
[/quote]
Funny enough.its.the.desillusionnals.ppl.like.you that.seem.to.think.drug.usage.is negative. No.one.said.Phil.or any other pro was a.piece.of shit for using.synthol. we all.agreed.it.was.a.normal.thing.to do
You see.it as hating cause.you want.to.see.it.that.way
Get a clue
Elite.genetics.dont.do.it.alone. it does however.enhance.the.results.of.good.training,nutrition and.(omg.hating).drugSSSS use[/quote]
Think you’re clever with your little periods in between every word?
I think you need some tampons and maxi-pads with all your periods.
And I never said drug usage was negative. I CHOOSE not to use, just like I CHOOSE not to use marijuana even though I think it should be legalized.
I have a problem with those of you who think roids is THE reason someone made better progress. Is that YOUR reason for your own growth spurts?[/quote]
Im on my phone and it put dots sometimes. Mature post for a 50yrs old guy
Ur too funny. Enlighten us on what turns a 220lbs stage rdy pro into a 245 stage rdy pro plz. Or better, what do you think has the MOST impact for a guy at level
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]putter2712 wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
[/quote]
You have to be jealous insecure and ignorant to prefer training natty? Im not trying to take anything away from the pro’s but i dont consider a top pro user any more highly than a top pro natty. Their efforts and achievements are on par IMO.[/quote]
You didn’t catch my point, nor did I direct any statement towards you, Putter.
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Apologies, given the lack of direction at anyone i had to assume context and only used todays posts to do so. My bad x
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]zraw wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Once again this forum is FILLED to the brim with jealous, insecure and ignorant little men. The biggest thing with some of you is the fucking chip on your shoulder.
Phil has supreme genetics for this sport. You don’t. Get over it and stop with the blaming, hating, and negativity.
[/quote]
Funny enough.its.the.desillusionnals.ppl.like.you that.seem.to.think.drug.usage.is negative. No.one.said.Phil.or any other pro was a.piece.of shit for using.synthol. we all.agreed.it.was.a.normal.thing.to do
You see.it as hating cause.you want.to.see.it.that.way
Get a clue
Elite.genetics.dont.do.it.alone. it does however.enhance.the.results.of.good.training,nutrition and.(omg.hating).drugSSSS use[/quote]
Think you’re clever with your little periods in between every word?
I think you need some tampons and maxi-pads with all your periods.
And I never said drug usage was negative. I CHOOSE not to use, just like I CHOOSE not to use marijuana even though I think it should be legalized.
I have a problem with those of you who think roids is THE reason someone made better progress. Is that YOUR reason for your own growth spurts?[/quote]
Terrible news
I was hoping to spark up with you one day
[/quote]
Dude, THAT would be so worth it!
I assure you if we meet, I’ll indulge. You better have the good stuff on hand.