Phil Heath Calls Out Arnold

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[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:
Cedric would be a FINE Mr Olympia. He possesses a classic, tall and massive physique, tiny waist, and has probably the best personality of any BBer right now. Great charisma, he’s funny as hell, and I can’t imagine him fighting with teenage haters on the web (like Phil does).[/quote]

Agreed.

Not only do I like his physique above many others, he seems like a stand up guy. [/quote]

The potential is there if he can ever come in full and grainy, but that sort of conditioning has eluded him

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Have you guys seen this? Embarrassing to watch. You’d never guess by his attitude that he’s a 4-time Sandow receiver.

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[quote]CLUNK wrote:
Have you guys seen this? Embarrassing to watch. You’d never guess by his attitude that he’s a 4-time Sandow receiver.
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I noticed you wrote “receiver” and not “winner” -lol

S

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[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:
Have you guys seen this? Embarrassing to watch. You’d never guess by his attitude that he’s a 4-time Sandow receiver.
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I noticed you wrote “receiver” and not “winner” -lol

S
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Good catch, Stu!

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[quote]CLUNK wrote:
Have you guys seen this? Embarrassing to watch. You’d never guess by his attitude that he’s a 4-time Sandow receiver.

Im not sure if this is accurate at all but he definitely gives off the impression that he’s alienated himself from many of the other competitors.

I follow a lot of these guys like Big Ramy, Wolf, Martinez, Morel, Kai…they’re all friends, theyre all very cordial and supportive…and then theres Phil acting like its him against the world all the time.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

Im not sure if this is accurate at all but he definitely gives off the impression that he’s alienated himself from many of the other competitors.

I follow a lot of these guys like Big Ramy, Wolf, Martinez, Morel, Kai…they’re all friends, theyre all very cordial and supportive…and then theres Phil acting like its him against the world all the time. [/quote]

Agree. Bodybuilding as a whole should reflect some camaraderie… even though highly competitive. Phil not only seems alienated and insecure, but he also seems to have very little sense of humor. I remember watching Dennis Wolf at the 2012 Arnold Classic. He demonstrated fantastic sportsmanship, smiling a lot, interacting warmly to the other guys, almost like an elder statesman!

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I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.

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For that reason exactly, Arnold has more titles than phil and in his mind he has to push others down in order to rise up

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[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does.

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Actually Arnold says it about himself, even mentioning photo shoots where he stood in the ocean in order to cover his legs. He also strived for proportion in his early years and towards the end it wasn’t as important

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[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.[/quote]

I’m ready for a new Mr. O. As much as Phil has been deserving, largely because others have missed the mark in conditioning. I’d like to see an underdog show up and blow the rest of the field away. That would be awesome.

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[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.[/quote]

I’m ready for a new Mr. O. As much as Phil has been deserving, largely because others have missed the mark in conditioning. I’d like to see an underdog show up and blow the rest of the field away. That would be awesome. [/quote]

Branch? I’m sure CLUNK would agree.

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[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.[/quote]

I’m ready for a new Mr. O. As much as Phil has been deserving, largely because others have missed the mark in conditioning. I’d like to see an underdog show up and blow the rest of the field away. That would be awesome. [/quote]

Branch? I’m sure CLUNK would agree. [/quote]

Hell no! He needs to retire already.

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[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.[/quote]

I’m ready for a new Mr. O. As much as Phil has been deserving, largely because others have missed the mark in conditioning. I’d like to see an underdog show up and blow the rest of the field away. That would be awesome. [/quote]

Branch? I’m sure CLUNK would agree. [/quote]

Hell no! He needs to retire already.
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LOL! Indeed!

If Phil loses, I think he might implode… or break down crying like a little girl.

Although Phil has deserved his wins (I rooted for him since his first Olympia), I am definitely eager for a new face and physique up there in first place!

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[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.[/quote]

I’m ready for a new Mr. O. As much as Phil has been deserving, largely because others have missed the mark in conditioning. I’d like to see an underdog show up and blow the rest of the field away. That would be awesome. [/quote]

The only time that has happened was when Dexter beat Jay, it’s going to play out like it always does. Phil will keep winning until Ramy is clearly better (and his English has improved) - probably 3 years, they’ll give Phil that final win and the following year when Ramy blows him out of the water, Ramy will be champ.

The Olympia is less a contest than an exhibition.

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[quote]tsantos wrote:

[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.[/quote]

I’m ready for a new Mr. O. As much as Phil has been deserving, largely because others have missed the mark in conditioning. I’d like to see an underdog show up and blow the rest of the field away. That would be awesome. [/quote]

The only time that has happened was when Dexter beat Jay, it’s going to play out like it always does. Phil will keep winning until Ramy is clearly better (and his English has improved) - probably 3 years, they’ll give Phil that final win and the following year when Ramy blows him out of the water, Ramy will be champ.

The Olympia is less a contest than an exhibition.

[/quote]

For me I would say Wolf is next in line if comes in shredded. -He’s blonde, white, won’t bite the hand that feeds him, doesn’t swear and hasn’t raped any fruit.

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[quote]RampantBadger wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:

[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.[/quote]

I’m ready for a new Mr. O. As much as Phil has been deserving, largely because others have missed the mark in conditioning. I’d like to see an underdog show up and blow the rest of the field away. That would be awesome. [/quote]

The only time that has happened was when Dexter beat Jay, it’s going to play out like it always does. Phil will keep winning until Ramy is clearly better (and his English has improved) - probably 3 years, they’ll give Phil that final win and the following year when Ramy blows him out of the water, Ramy will be champ.

The Olympia is less a contest than an exhibition.

[/quote]

For me I would say Wolf is next in line if comes in shredded. -He’s blonde, white, won’t bite the hand that feeds him, doesn’t swear and hasn’t raped any fruit.
[/quote]

If Ramy comes in full and with conditioning that rivals or beats Phil’s, he is already better. I dont think it will happen this year though.

I’d say the same about Wolf. I think Phil regressed to a small degree in the last 2 Olympia’s and if Wolf nails his conditioning, he could get the nod. Same with Rhoden.

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

[quote]RampantBadger wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:

[quote]Steez wrote:

[quote]dt79 wrote:

[quote]CLUNK wrote:

[quote]tsantos wrote:
I think Heath has deserved his 4 gongs, some were line ball but that’s the nature of competition at the most elite level. Olympia also has the “knock out the champ” aspect to it.

It was probably that bit of mongrel that got him the 2012 Olympia in the end and I think there has been a marked difference in him since that. If making it him against the world drives him, more power to him - Jay is not exactly reaping the rewards of being the likeable champ.[/quote]

I’m not denying Heath his 4 wins. Definitely deserved. I just expect a champ to display certain traits, on and off the field.
Imagine Dorian Yates acting like Phil does. [/quote]

That would be hilarious! I would actually pay money to see Dorian act like Phil in the video above.[/quote]

I’m ready for a new Mr. O. As much as Phil has been deserving, largely because others have missed the mark in conditioning. I’d like to see an underdog show up and blow the rest of the field away. That would be awesome. [/quote]

The only time that has happened was when Dexter beat Jay, it’s going to play out like it always does. Phil will keep winning until Ramy is clearly better (and his English has improved) - probably 3 years, they’ll give Phil that final win and the following year when Ramy blows him out of the water, Ramy will be champ.

The Olympia is less a contest than an exhibition.

[/quote]

For me I would say Wolf is next in line if comes in shredded. -He’s blonde, white, won’t bite the hand that feeds him, doesn’t swear and hasn’t raped any fruit.
[/quote]

If Ramy comes in full and with conditioning that rivals or beats Phil’s, he is already better. I dont think it will happen this year though.

I’d say the same about Wolf. I think Phil regressed to a small degree in the last 2 Olympia’s and if Wolf nails his conditioning, he could get the nod. Same with Rhoden. [/quote]

Dem Calves though!