[quote]admbaum wrote:
not to be a dick about it, but you do know that lobsters, for the most part, are boiled alive? Prayer or no prayer. [/quote]
Yeah, I get it.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
Ya know, I don’t think I’ve ever met a vegetarian/vegan woman…
Score one for the South![/quote]
I met one the other night. She tried to tell me that it was much healthier for the human body to eat only fruits and vegetables.
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She was a lard ass.
[quote]admbaum wrote:
How do you dignify an animal you are going to eat? [/quote]
By letting it die as quickly and painlessly as possible. By respecting the fact that you are taking it’s life so you can live. Yes - we are at the top of the food chain and we get to enjoy all the perks of that. We don’t have to be dicks about it.
[quote]Nards wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Nards wrote:
[quote]admbaum wrote:
Compassion, remorse, and dignity are all human traits. If you kill a chicken do the other chicken hover around their dead or sumfin? If they do, I’ve never seen it. Ever seen a pig eat another pig? Do you think that animals demonstrate a degree of dignity to other animals? If I drop a turkey out in the wild, the other turkeys run away. Far away. You guys aren’t really presenting a valid argument to back up your opinions.
FTR: I have no dogs, cats or other pets. If I did have a dog, it would live like a dog. Outside in a doghouse, ready and willing to serve my bidding.
Also FTR: if you believe the garbage they serve at KFC and McDoDo’s is quality meat, I dont know what to tell you. The highest quality meat you can get is the meat you get from animals in the wild.
One more point: Native Americans cut the hearts out of their kills sometimes while the heart was still beating. The only way to ensure there is no pain to the animal is to go for an apricot shot…severing the medulla oblongata…a head shot. I took a deer once (it was tasty)…heart/lung shot at 225yds, it was still breathing when I walked up on it about 45 minutes later. Its true hunters go for a clean kill, but the reality is that you may not get clean kills every time. Hunting is a valid topic to bring up in talking about meat. Isnt the topic of this thread about Vegans and how full of shit they are? All the points vegans try to make can be countered by suggesting going out and getting meat for yourself like our ancestors did thousands of years before grocery stores and commercial harvesting. Can you live without a grocery store? I can. We all should, even the ladies.[/quote]
These dogs sleep in the bed with me and I somehow do their bidding.
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Look at those eyes! you’re helplessly under their control Nards. Just face the facts… You never stood a chance
.greg.[/quote]
I’m glad you can understand!
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Game set match, that dog owns you
[quote]SSC wrote:
This thread was useful, I learned adambaum is a complete tool.[/quote]
and his Grandmother is a fucking whore.
[quote]admbaum wrote:
not to be a dick about it, but you do know that lobsters, for the most part, are boiled alive? Prayer or no prayer. [/quote]
Yep… same with crabs.
[quote]iamthewolf wrote:
[quote]admbaum wrote:
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Dignified manner? Tell me you’re joking. They are animals for use as fuel for our bodies. You should’ve seen the way my GRANDMOTHER would twirl a chickens head till it popped off. At first, it freaked me out. That was until that same chicken ended up on a plate cooked and tasty in front of me. Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt. We didnt make it to the top of the food chain to graze like cattle.[/quote]
true, but that doesn’t mean we have to cause the animal any more pain than is necessary.
also, “Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt” doen’t really fit here. we’re not talking about hunting. and even if we were, hunters always hope for a clean kill without making the animal suffer before it dies. if you don’t hope for that when hunting then you’re an asshole.[/quote]
as a hunter its always best to get the clean kill. that way you never need to chase the prey.
[quote]lawsonsamuels wrote:
[quote]jre67t wrote:
Am I Imhumane? [/quote]
No, but you are a terrible speller.
But I digress.
Defining if an animal has died with or without dignity is a purely subjective matter. I have been a hunter since about age 8. Squirrels, rabbits, hogs, deer, fish, etc. I’ve killed all of them. I’ve also raised livestock which was then slaughtered and some of it I slaughtered myself. In other words, I’ve watched a lot of critters die.
In my opinion dignity would mean the animal is killed in a RELATIVELY quick and painless as possible manner and it did not die just so I could see it die. Its death had some purpose and served some good, be it feeding someone, clothing someone, or providing a product that could save someones life. Killing something just to put a head on a wall and no meat in the freezer has no dignity. [/quote]
its still ok to watch it die though if you are going to eat it right?
[quote]admbaum wrote:
not to be a dick about it, but you do know that lobsters, for the most part, are boiled alive? Prayer or no prayer. [/quote]
Fuckin’ A right. And tasty little fuckers, too. Especially boiled in beer, then when they’re done, smattered in but-tah.
Did I mention how Goddamm tasty those little shit eaters are, especially wit’ a coupla Stellas? (or Geary’s).
[quote]Neospartan wrote:
[quote]admbaum wrote:
not to be a dick about it, but you do know that lobsters, for the most part, are boiled alive? Prayer or no prayer. [/quote]
Yep… same with crabs.
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You Marylanders and your unclean crabs! LOL. In the next bay north (Delaware Bay) region, custom is to rip the shells off, pull out the gills and clean out the innards. Then smatter with Old Bay, boil in beer/garlic/pepper (ie Italian/Philly style).
Pure.Awesomeness either way!
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]admbaum wrote:
not to be a dick about it, but you do know that lobsters, for the most part, are boiled alive? Prayer or no prayer. [/quote]
Fuckin’ A right. And tasty little fuckers, too. Especially boiled in beer, then when they’re done, smattered in but-tah.
Did I mention how Goddamm tasty those little shit eaters are, especially wit’ a coupla Stellas? (or Geary’s).[/quote]
Food Pr0n…I’ma fan
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Neospartan wrote:
[quote]admbaum wrote:
not to be a dick about it, but you do know that lobsters, for the most part, are boiled alive? Prayer or no prayer. [/quote]
Yep… same with crabs.
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You Marylanders and your unclean crabs! LOL. In the next bay north (Delaware Bay) region, custom is to rip the shells off, pull out the gills and clean out the innards. Then smatter with Old Bay, boil in beer/garlic/pepper (ie Italian/Philly style).
Pure.Awesomeness either way![/quote]
Until a few years ago, I thought this was worldwide standard practice.
lol
[quote]admbaum wrote:
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
[quote]admbaum wrote:
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Dignified manner? Tell me you’re joking. They are animals for use as fuel for our bodies. You should’ve seen the way my GRANDMOTHER would twirl a chickens head till it popped off. At first, it freaked me out. That was until that same chicken ended up on a plate cooked and tasty in front of me. Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt. We didnt make it to the top of the food chain to graze like cattle.
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Did your grandmother rip its beak off while it was still alive? Did she kick the chicken around the house before killing it? Did she throw it in boling water while still alive?
Did you watch the videos or google Vigil Butler like I suggested, or are you spouting off the first alpha as fuck, bro-nonsense you could think of?
I eat animals, I’ve killed animals. Never have I tortured them nor will I knowingly support any company/institution that does. An animal deserves the quickest most painless death possible, as do all living things.
What about that don’t you agree with?
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lemme answer you more directly:
The problem you have with slaughterhouses have nothing to do with slaughterhouses themselves and everything to do with the people that run them. Do I acknowledge the fact that animals are mistreated in these places? Yes, I do. Do I also despise poaching? Yes I do. There’s evil and evil people in the world man, get used to it. Your little stand against the corporate machine is retarded. They will still make money regardless of your contribution. Accept it and learn a way around it.
People that torture animals for the fun of it deserve equal treatment and need to be removed from society. I really hope you dont assume I condone animal cruelty in any way. The way you implied animals be dignified immediately put an image of a chicken blind folded with a cigarette standing on the firing line in my head. How do you dignify an animal you are going to eat? Last time I went to a slaughterhouse, I live in Texas and have hunted on a pig farm, the pigs got hit with an air powered, retractable bullet right to the dome. The rancher said the animal was gone before the bullet came back out. The place was run like a machine and the pigs lived better than they would have in the wild. They ate a mixture of grain, slop from local restraunts, and grass. The average size of wild pigs in Texas is around 100-150#'s. His pigs averaged around 300-350#'s and were very tasty.
How would you prefer animals be slaughtered? Given a sedative, a drug to destroy their lungs, and then their heart?[/quote]
Wait, you are against poaching, why because it is morally wrong or because it is against the law?