Fuck off - I can’t remember the last time I saw a vegan lady who looked like this. How much horseshit can people get away with spouting?
Apologies given that this topic has been done to death, but are these people THAT deluded?! Angers me. I’m going to much on a steak-bread burger (Steak-Burger-Steak configuration)
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
I don’t eat at those places because the food is shit.
But I do agree about humane slaughter practices.
That’s one of the points in “The Vegetarian Myth”. The author covers a LOT of ground and the corporate feedlot which is so commonplace is one reason why people are avoiding meat.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Well, guess you never heard that PETA was found to have paid those people to do that stuff on camera.
[quote]Magicpunch wrote:
Fuck off - I can’t remember the last time I saw a vegan lady who looked like this. How much horseshit can people get away with spouting?
Apologies given that this topic has been done to death, but are these people THAT deluded?! Angers me. I’m going to much on a steak-bread burger (Steak-Burger-Steak configuration)
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Well, guess you never heard that PETA was found to have paid those people to do that stuff on camera.[/quote]
I heard stories that they we’re “egged on” to be as violent and aggressive as possible while on camera. However, the conditions were deplorable and I FEEL the torture most likely continued once the cameras were gone. See: Virgil Butler
That being said, I cannot in good conscience eat at those “restaurants”.
My apologies for turning this into a PWI cesspool thread.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Well, guess you never heard that PETA was found to have paid those people to do that stuff on camera.[/quote]
I heard stories that they we’re “egged on” to be as violent and aggressive as possible while on camera. However, the conditions were deplorable and I FEEL the torture most likely continued once the cameras were gone. See: Virgil Butler
That being said, I cannot in good conscience eat at those “restaurants”.
My apologies for turning this into a PWI cesspool thread.[/quote]
No apology needed for setting up a reasonable standard for yourself.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Dignified manner? Tell me you’re joking. They are animals for use as fuel for our bodies. You should’ve seen the way my GRANDMOTHER would twirl a chickens head till it popped off. At first, it freaked me out. That was until that same chicken ended up on a plate cooked and tasty in front of me. Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt. We didnt make it to the top of the food chain to graze like cattle.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Dignified manner? Tell me you’re joking. They are animals for use as fuel for our bodies. You should’ve seen the way my GRANDMOTHER would twirl a chickens head till it popped off. At first, it freaked me out. That was until that same chicken ended up on a plate cooked and tasty in front of me. Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt. We didnt make it to the top of the food chain to graze like cattle.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Dignified manner? Tell me you’re joking. They are animals for use as fuel for our bodies. You should’ve seen the way my GRANDMOTHER would twirl a chickens head till it popped off. At first, it freaked me out. That was until that same chicken ended up on a plate cooked and tasty in front of me. Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt. We didnt make it to the top of the food chain to graze like cattle.
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Humanizing?
He never said he avoided the consumption of all flesh. He’s made a moral decision of eating based on the way these livestock are treated. Not so much how they’re killed, but the unhealthy conditions in which they live.
Further, if you have a dog, I’m willing to bet you’re humanizing him in many instances.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Dignified manner? Tell me you’re joking. They are animals for use as fuel for our bodies. You should’ve seen the way my GRANDMOTHER would twirl a chickens head till it popped off. At first, it freaked me out. That was until that same chicken ended up on a plate cooked and tasty in front of me. Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt. We didnt make it to the top of the food chain to graze like cattle.[/quote]
true, but that doesn’t mean we have to cause the animal any more pain than is necessary.
also, “Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt” doen’t really fit here. we’re not talking about hunting. and even if we were, hunters always hope for a clean kill without making the animal suffer before it dies. if you don’t hope for that when hunting then you’re an asshole.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Dignified manner? Tell me you’re joking. They are animals for use as fuel for our bodies. You should’ve seen the way my GRANDMOTHER would twirl a chickens head till it popped off. At first, it freaked me out. That was until that same chicken ended up on a plate cooked and tasty in front of me. Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt. We didnt make it to the top of the food chain to graze like cattle.
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Well my grandfather used a board, a rope, and a axe. He would tie the chickens legs together, hang it upside down on the board and chop its head off. Which I think is more humane and better for the meat than wringing its head off. Although when I first saw this I was 5 and fainted, it was the most delicious chicken Ive ever had and is what real chicken is supposed to taste like.
You don’t have to “humanize” an animal to show dignity.
And speaking of hunting, Native Americans were probably the greatest example of expressing gratitude when they made a kill, thereby demonstrating a degree of dignity.
[quote]ADvanced TS wrote:
PETA loses me with the vegan shit.
You can still eat animals that were killed in a dignified manner.
FTR, I do not eat at KFC or McD’s because of their practices in slaughtering chickens. Watch the video on PETA’s website, it will turn your stomach.[/quote]
Dignified manner? Tell me you’re joking. They are animals for use as fuel for our bodies. You should’ve seen the way my GRANDMOTHER would twirl a chickens head till it popped off. At first, it freaked me out. That was until that same chicken ended up on a plate cooked and tasty in front of me. Stop humanizing animals and learn to hunt. We didnt make it to the top of the food chain to graze like cattle.
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Did your grandmother rip its beak off while it was still alive? Did she kick the chicken around the house before killing it? Did she throw it in boling water while still alive?
Did you watch the videos or google Vigil Butler like I suggested, or are you spouting off the first alpha as fuck, bro-nonsense you could think of?
I eat animals, I’ve killed animals. Never have I tortured them nor will I knowingly support any company/institution that does. An animal deserves the quickest most painless death possible, as do all living things.
Compassion, remorse, and dignity are all human traits. If you kill a chicken do the other chicken hover around their dead or sumfin? If they do, I’ve never seen it. Ever seen a pig eat another pig? Do you think that animals demonstrate a degree of dignity to other animals? If I drop a turkey out in the wild, the other turkeys run away. Far away. You guys aren’t really presenting a valid argument to back up your opinions.
FTR: I have no dogs, cats or other pets. If I did have a dog, it would live like a dog. Outside in a doghouse, ready and willing to serve my bidding.
Also FTR: if you believe the garbage they serve at KFC and McDoDo’s is quality meat, I dont know what to tell you. The highest quality meat you can get is the meat you get from animals in the wild.
One more point: Native Americans cut the hearts out of their kills sometimes while the heart was still beating. The only way to ensure there is no pain to the animal is to go for an apricot shot…severing the medulla oblongata…a head shot. I took a deer once (it was tasty)…heart/lung shot at 225yds, it was still breathing when I walked up on it about 45 minutes later. Its true hunters go for a clean kill, but the reality is that you may not get clean kills every time. Hunting is a valid topic to bring up in talking about meat. Isnt the topic of this thread about Vegans and how full of shit they are? All the points vegans try to make can be countered by suggesting going out and getting meat for yourself like our ancestors did thousands of years before grocery stores and commercial harvesting. Can you live without a grocery store? I can. We all should, even the ladies.
[quote]admbaum wrote:
Compassion, remorse, and dignity are all human traits. If you kill a chicken do the other chicken hover around their dead or sumfin? If they do, I’ve never seen it. Ever seen a pig eat another pig? Do you think that animals demonstrate a degree of dignity to other animals? If I drop a turkey out in the wild, the other turkeys run away. Far away. You guys aren’t really presenting a valid argument to back up your opinions.
FTR: I have no dogs, cats or other pets. If I did have a dog, it would live like a dog. Outside in a doghouse, ready and willing to serve my bidding.
Also FTR: if you believe the garbage they serve at KFC and McDoDo’s is quality meat, I dont know what to tell you. The highest quality meat you can get is the meat you get from animals in the wild.
One more point: Native Americans cut the hearts out of their kills sometimes while the heart was still beating. The only way to ensure there is no pain to the animal is to go for an apricot shot…severing the medulla oblongata…a head shot. I took a deer once (it was tasty)…heart/lung shot at 225yds, it was still breathing when I walked up on it about 45 minutes later. Its true hunters go for a clean kill, but the reality is that you may not get clean kills every time. Hunting is a valid topic to bring up in talking about meat. Isnt the topic of this thread about Vegans and how full of shit they are? All the points vegans try to make can be countered by suggesting going out and getting meat for yourself like our ancestors did thousands of years before grocery stores and commercial harvesting. Can you live without a grocery store? I can. We all should, even the ladies.[/quote]
You didn’t take the time to answer any of my questions. So I won’t intelligently address yours.
Your argument has drifted very far away from my point of not supporting animal cruelty in slaughter houses. If you can’t see the difference between that and hunting, I can’t help you. You lose me with the whole turkeys running away analogy.