Now don’t get me wrong. I’m not a vegetarian, and I NEVER could be. In addition, I don’t see how guys like us can get big without eating meat, or without eating some sort of product produced from animal product (like whey protein). But this video is messed up (just go to www.meat.org).
It is kind of a shame that soy protein just wouldn’t cut it- things like tofu and soy milk don’t agree with my palate anyway, but, being 6’4", 265, and a fairly built dude, I wouldn’t want to convert from meat and dairy to soy anyway, just because of the protein changes.
As opposed to the very humane killing of animals through the harvesting of agricultural products, insecticides, and habitat destruction that vegans promote?
Getting eaten is the inevitable result of living for all living things, even humans. Everything gets eaten sooner or later. It has been like this for the last 3.5 billion years. Good luck getting it changed.
I never understood why some people beleive animals shouldn’t be eaten, but they feel its ok to eat plants? Eating bread kills wheat, but apparently thats cool because cows deserve to live more then wheat.
I had a pal of mine attempt to convince me of the dietary/ideological supremacy/environmental benefits/blabbedy blah of the vegan lifestyle last week. THE VERY NEXT DAY I had her eating eggs for breakfast and a turkey sandwich for lunch. Haven’t checked back since, but I think it’s safe to mark up one for our camp.
That’s awesome- I love it when vegetarians fail for some reason- like they don’t get enough iron or protein or something.
I am especially amused by all the damned fat vegetarians, and even moreso when they cry about how meat is bad for you.
Fuck them.
Yes, one of my best friends is vegetarian (he’s Indian), but at least he isn’t self-righteous, and he doesn’t make snide comments when I enjoy my beef-burger.
[quote]HERO wrote:
I love meat, can?t get enough of it. Without a doubt it is something that will always remain a staple of my diet.
But that video is disturbing to say the least, and really gets you thinking. [/quote]
But you will continue to eat meat from animals who are treated this way? I may give up meat completely just because of how unsanitary and unhealthy the meat has to be. I have heard stories…but to actually see that left me feeling disgusted with humans in general.
Vegitarianism is an “ism”. And like all “ims” a political idea. Be a vegan if you like, but don’t push your agenda on me. Animals exist on this planet for food. Plain and simple. Humans are carnivores. We eat meat. It’s nothing recent either.
Personally, I have never met a vegan that, in my opinion, looked healthy. And living in a major university town, I am surrounded by vegans and vegan restaurants.
I had a friend who went Vegan, never understood why an he never gave me any reason;or tried to push his views on others.Then he moved out his parents house and had to pay his own food, he went back to eating meat b/c he figured lunch beat & bologna was cheaper than trying to stay vegan.
Go figure, how does someone make that reasoning then switch back so fast.He ate like a vegan for pretty much a yr.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Vegitarianism is an “ism”. And like all “ims” a political idea.[/quote]
So is omnivorism a political idea too? What about carnivorism?
Tell me that after you eat some tapeworms or a seacucumber. Not all animals are made to be eaten.
Interesting. So we eat only meat all day like tigers and hyenas and other big cats. I thought we were omnivores because we can eat plant matter as well as meat.
That’s because vegans take it to an extreme. They eat only plant matter. Vegetarians can eat stuff like cheese, milk and eggs.
The way I see it you cant change what other people do or believe, and it isn’t right to try. So when I meet a vegetarian I just make sure to eat extra meat to make up for them. Plus if there were more vegetarians the price of meat would be cheaper. You guys are just to pessimistic.
I really have trouble understanding why someone would become a vegan.
If you don’t want animals to suffer then you sure as hell SHOULD be eating meat, or at least consuming animal products such as dairy and eggs.
If you don’t then there is no reason for domesticated livestock to exist. Cows and chickens would no longer be cared for by farmers as there would be no monetary motivation for them to do so.
If released into the wild, with all feral traits long since genetically departed, the farm animals would be eliminated by predators within a relatively short time frame.
Domesticated animals can either be cared for and allowed to live (for a pre-determined period) by farmers, or be killed by predators (and thus eradicated from existence for good) to quell the uneasy ‘conscience’ of a vegan.
Not to mention the fact that by removing yourself from the potential customer-base you are reducing the farmers’ potential income. You are thereby increasing the likelihood of ‘cruel’ cost-cutting measures being re-introduced to recoup the loss.
This isn’t a black or white issue. You can eat meat, and still endeavor for the humane treatment of animals by voting with your dollar. Support humanely raised agriculture or wild harvested animals, who were not raised and brutalized as such in factory farm conditions.
It might cost extra, to not support the industry where profit is king, but the bonus is passed onto you as well in the form of antibiotic-free, GMO-free meat which ate a natural diet (more Omega-3 and CLA, etc.)
