People Who Must Be on Steroids

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[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Contrl wrote:
I definitely do believe Christian Bale pumped himself full of AAS and was probably chomping down 6,000 - 7,000 calories per day to pack on that kind of mass in such short time.

I’m an AAS user myself, and spent a great deal of time training naturally. Even those “omfg, you can get that big naturally eeeasy!” people have to agree with this one. The way he looked in Batman Returns is very easy to achieve, but to go from a walking spaghetti string at 120lb to 220lb at an apparent 11%BF in half a year is definitely AAS.

A stupid article indeed, but I agree Bale would not have been able to pull that off without some help. He put on something like 100 pounds in 25 weeks and was just as lean as before. Phenomenal dedication to his craft to put work like that into a role. He’s amazing.[/quote]

He wasn’t half as lean as before. But that’s still an unbelievably tremendous gain from walking skeleton in The Machinist in that period of time. Despite muscle memory and hard work, I’m not sure it’s possilbe. On the other hand, I put on almost 20 lbs in a month after recovering from mono, and almost none of it was fat.

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What kind of trainer would train a client for 8 hours/day, as the article said Charlie Sheen did? WTF?

And for my money, Bale’s a definite, Stallone too, Norton maybe, Carrot Top, hell yeah, and Dre, maybe, and Bonaduce, duh…

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[quote]Damici wrote:
It’s funny how people who know zilch about bodybuilding (or exercise and diet, period) assume that anyone who put on one solitary ounce of muscle whatsoever must’ve used steroids.

Ed Norton? Not a chance. Did he add some good size over where he was before? Of course, but adding some good size is completely possible naturally, and he didn’t add ridiculous size by any means, nor does he have the juiced-up, ultra-vascular “look” of, say, Carrot-Top.

Christian Bale? Likewise. I’m 99.9 percent sure he just worked out and ate a lot.

Others on the list . . . maybe they juiced. But not everyone who ever made any physique progress whatsoever used steroids.

Sheesh.[/quote]

The article on that Cracked site was tongue-in-cheek and just meant for laughs. It’s a comedy/farce magazine,as we all know.

I remember back when I watched American History X, I though Edward Norton was huge and jacked! But now that I look at pictures of him, he wasn’t that big at all. It wouldn’t be hard to achieve that in a few months naturally, for sure.

It was priceless the way they described Norton - “Edward Norton hit Hollywood as the willowy accused murderer in Primal Fear … and soon after emerged in American History X as a racist superman who looked like he could bring back segregation with a single flex of his pectoral muscles.” !

Bale is a different story, IMO, because the transformation was so extreme in a short amount of time. It’s not as simple as eating a lot and lifting weights. You can’t just suddenly start pigging out when you’re that skinny, I know because I’ve been there. Starting from that emaciated state, his stomach would have shrunk. It would take some time, maybe a couple of months, for it to stretch again, and for his digestive system to be able to handle that many calories in a day. Sure it’s believable that he did it without AAS, but I think it highly probable that he did use anabolics.

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I don’t know if Dre did steroids are not, but the cat looks 100% better then he did as a fat boy. Props to Dre!

D

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[quote]Dedicated wrote:
I don’t know if Dre did steroids are not, but the cat looks 100% better then he did as a fat boy. Props to Dre!

D[/quote]

Completely agree.

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[quote]rsg wrote:
Dedicated wrote:
I don’t know if Dre did steroids are not, but the cat looks 100% better then he did as a fat boy. Props to Dre!

D

Completely agree.[/quote]

Third that notion.

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Dre looks like a fucking stud.

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If you need muscle for a movie and your about to get more paid well for it, your a complete idiot not to use roids. Unless your company is testing.

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Madonna, lol

She probably had crazy veins because it was her carb up day. That’s why you don’t see meth-addict celebs with veins, they don’t eat anything to get the pump! Haha

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I would disagree with the exception of a few who’re confirmed to have used.

As far as Bale goes, I doubt it, he was jacked, albeit smaller in American Psycho. Muscle memory is very real and if you support it well you can get re-jacked quick as hell.

But even if he did, it’s his job to change his body for his roles. And he gets paid very well for it. I’d use if I found it necessary.

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Edward Norton wasn’t THAT big in American History X. Come on… If he took steroids, he got ripped off.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
If you need muscle for a movie and your about to get more paid well for it, your a complete idiot not to use roids. Unless your company is testing.[/quote]

Exactly.

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Ok, I am a long time lurker who finally decided that I should introduce myself. I have read just about everything on here and this post has got me thinking. If you watch the special features on the machinist, Christian Bale stated that the only way he could achieve/maintain his weight for the role was to drink water for days/weeks on end (can’t say which he said with any certainty, since I havent seen it in a while). Now if that were true, then his metabolism would have been near nothing (as well as the dimensions of his aforementioned stomach).

So while he would not have been able to achieve a massive amount of calories from the outset of his “bulking,” the lowered metabolism would have viewed any calories as a surplus, and that’s what we need for muscle synthesis. So even though his body would adapt to this fairly quickly, he would still be focusing on stretching out his stomach, which would lead to further calorie increases, so in my thinking that would generate a feasible muscle building environment. So I do not think that his is the product of steroids, but more along the lines of a bodybuilder the first few days after a show. Although his was far more extreme.

but to my mind, I see it like the bodybuilders I know (that have actually done shows), who say that they gain weight real quick after they come off of their diets (yes, I am aware that there is some water weight, but most will tell you that they do put on some lean mass as well). Sorry for the long post, and I know I am supposed to ask something asinine, so everyone can flame me for not going to the beginners section, so sorry about that also. But next time I will send a pic holding a shoe and ask for bodyfat percentages.

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[quote]jit07 wrote:
Brazen T wrote:
I just saw the article and came to post it here…too slow…

Did I read on here that Dr.Dre worked with one of the authors from here, or did I just think that up?

Pretty uneducated article.

Stan Mcquay[/quote]

Thats not helping his case.

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[quote]baretta wrote:
jit07 wrote:
Brazen T wrote:
I just saw the article and came to post it here…too slow…

Did I read on here that Dr.Dre worked with one of the authors from here, or did I just think that up?

Pretty uneducated article.

Stan Mcquay

Thats not helping his case.[/quote]

But it got the job done…Good nuf’ for me!..

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[quote]Backlash79 wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Talking about Dr. Dre in that article, I think it’s ridiculous that people are bagging him for losing fat and gaining muscle.
In that linked blog, they’re saying comments like “nigga look like the incredible hulk. gay shit” and that he looks terrible. So they preferred him as a fat, pudgy rap producer and don’t like to see him getting in better shape. This comment was particularly stupid: “he is still dre.he is one of my heros butt takin drugs is not the best way to get the kind of body you would like to have.i dont know,why hes doin that he got so much money.” Like, wake up! It’s okay for Dre to openly talk about drinking alcohol and smoking chronic weed in his music, but it’s not okay for him to use AAS? Talk about double standards. What an unhealthy culture.

Those comments are ridiculous and funny. It seems like being a former drug dealer of various illegal recreational drugs is par for the course…but anabolics…OH NO WATCH OUT! You have songs about doing drugs, having sex, killing rivals…but if you actually want to take care of yourself. You MUST be on anabolics. People were making fun of Timbaland on that blog because he lost a LOT of weight. Say what???[/quote]

This is the same anti-intellectual mentality where studious Blacks and/or Black achievers are viciously attacked as “tryin’ to be white” or not being “black enough”, while criminal or quick fix low effort means of gaining profit gets a pass (examples: Condoleeza Rice, Colin Powell & Clarence Thomas are reflexively bad-mouthed while “Gangsta’s”, both real and faux, are looked up to as “gettin’ over”)…

Not only are these sub-morons a bunch of loose-lipped haters, they are an insult to generations of their ancestors who sacrificed all to provide them a chance to acheive, and they squander it, yet have the gall to run their not-attached-to-a-brain mouths! Really chaps my hide!

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[quote]Mr.gixxer wrote:
So while he would not have been able to achieve a massive amount of calories from the outset of his “bulking,” the lowered metabolism would have viewed any calories as a surplus, and that’s what we need for muscle synthesis. So even though his body would adapt to this fairly quickly, he would still be focusing on stretching out his stomach, which would lead to further calorie increases, so in my thinking that would generate a feasible muscle building environment. So I do not think that his is the product of steroids, but more along the lines of a bodybuilder the first few days after a show. Although his was far more extreme.

[/quote]

Mr. gixxer, I can’t don’t know if you what you are saying is true, but as a fellow lurker I can only say that it makes a bit of sense to me.

Also, one thing everyone seems to be forgetting is that films can take months to shoot. As far as I know there was 4 months in between the Machinist and Batman Begins shoot. I’ve read that the Batman Begins shoot took 125 days. So, Bale may really have had up to 7-8 months for his bulk…as they could have saved all of his topless scenes for the final weeks of the shoot.

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I thought the article was hilarious. I could believe all of them(except Madonna) used steroids, but I don’t fault any of them. They got in good shape. Congrats.

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[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Contrl wrote:
I definitely do believe Christian Bale pumped himself full of AAS and was probably chomping down 6,000 - 7,000 calories per day to pack on that kind of mass in such short time.

I’m an AAS user myself, and spent a great deal of time training naturally. Even those “omfg, you can get that big naturally eeeasy!” people have to agree with this one. The way he looked in Batman Returns is very easy to achieve, but to go from a walking spaghetti string at 120lb to 220lb at an apparent 11%BF in half a year is definitely AAS.

A stupid article indeed, but I agree Bale would not have been able to pull that off without some help. He put on something like 100 pounds in 25 weeks and was just as lean as before. Phenomenal dedication to his craft to put work like that into a role. He’s amazing.[/quote]

Well fuck, he got paid millions to train and eat. That is hobby for most of us.

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[quote]skaz05 wrote:
Edward Norton wasn’t THAT big in American History X. Come on… If he took steroids, he got ripped off.[/quote]

Yeah he really wasn’t. Plus he had NO legs.