Peace, Propaganda & Promised Land

US says weapon sales to China very dangerous…

French Arms Sales to China
Nov. 11, 2004
French Want to Sell Weapons to China

While many governments greeted the re-election of George W. Bush with approval, there are at least three capitols that are not at all happy with the newly re-elected president.

France and Germany are currently pushing the European Union to drop a ban on selling weapons to China. The move by Paris and Berlin has sparked a diplomatic crisis with the Bush administration.

The Bush administration has stepped up pressure on the EU governments to not support the German-French proposal. In a recent series of visits to EU capitals, State and Defense Department officials are warning that lifting the embargo on arms sales to Beijing would bring a swift reaction by the United States…

How would the world react to EU weapons being used on Taiwan, Japan or Korea or against U.S. forces in the Asian region?

Paris has not changed course in recent years, moving closer to selling weapons to the largest empire on Earth. China will not use its French weapons for peaceful purposes, and the targets are likely to be American.

Israel says, who gives a giant fuck…

Israel admits resuming defence exports to China
March 06, 2006
The crisis was resolved in August 2005 when Israel signed a statement of understanding with the US, pledging to restructure its agencies regulating defence exports and to consult the US on any sale that might compromise US interests.
http://www.janes.com/defence/news/jdw/jdw060306_1_n.shtml

U.S. Arms Sales to Israel End Up In China, Iraq
From 1990 to 2000 U.S. military aid to Israel totaled over $18 billion. No other nation in the world has such a close relationship with the U.S. military and arms industry.

The UN, Amnesty International and other groups have raised questions about the extent the to which U.S. military aid is abetting human rights abuses by Israeli forces operating in the West Bank. These debates will no doubt continue for some time.

In the mean time, however, there is another aspect of the American-Israeli relationship that may have an even greater impact on U.S. and Israeli security in the long run: the ongoing transfer of American arms technology from Israel to potential U.S. (and Israeli) adversaries around the globe.
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0509-07.htm

BTW, every dollar of aid given to Israel by the US is BORROWED money – meanwhile Israel in the black…

Israel Marks Independence Day with $1.7 Billion Budget Surplus
May 02, '06
Contrasting dramatically with the situation 58 years ago, the government can celebrate this Independence Day with a NIS 7.7 billion budget surplus.

[quote]rainjack wrote:
MisterAmazing wrote:
How did he say pussify children? He makes a good point you fucking hick. We do have the ability to make a better enviornment for our children , just by making a substantial change in society, in the ways that we raise them. Everybody in this nation is scared to death of change, except passing an act that shit on our civil rights and everything this country was founded upon.

I just love the way you tough guys get on here and name call in lieu of a real response. I doubt you would be so fucking brave in person.

You honestly think you have a better way to raise children than the way is’t been done since there were children?

I am sick of the liberal bullshit. how many goddamned times did you read Hilary’s book? Dr. Spock’s offering?

We should focus on teaching our kids to think for themselves, teach them individuality. If we fail to do this they may wind up like some of you who still refuse to think outside the box.

My kids do. what’s so fucking new about that? My God - I would a year’s pay that you are nothing more than another fucking kid that has no clue about life other than what George Soros has told you to think - and you want to raise free thinking kids?

Hick, huh? at least I am proud enough to put my location down - pussies like you hide even while playing the fucking tough guy. You are a bitch.

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Don’t get too angry Cletus, I mean rainjack, one of the few teeth you have may fall out. Haven’t read those books, though I was reading and writing at a college level in seventh grade, but I guess I’m the dumb one. Liberal bullshit? I’m advocating freedom of thought, ya know, freedom, what this country once took pride in before a half assed administration burned it and pissed on the ashes (Patriot Act).

George Soros - hahaha. I wouldn’t really be afraid of you, I’d toss a fried rodent into the middle of an interstate highway while ringing a dinnerbell and watch you get mauled by an eighteen wheeler. Wanna know my location? It’s New Jersey, I could care less who knows i’m from there. What are you gonna do, call me a Yankee?

I don’t understand what pissed you off so much, all I did was advocate freedom of thought. Is that wrong? Maybe the hick comment pissed you off, but it should only anger you if it’s true. You called me dumb and I’m not the one getting heated, I’m sitting here laughing at you.

Anyway, to not stoop to your level, I’m not going to continue trying to insult you, I think you insulted yourself enough by just attempting to sound intelligent. I forgive you for being ignorant, it’s not your fault, it’s how you were raised I guess, you have my sympathy not my hate.

If anybody else wants to slam me for advocating freedom, feel free to make yourself appear as intelligent as our friend over here.

[quote]MisterAmazing wrote:
Hoejer wrote:
Why does everyone think you have to pick sides? Both sides are ruthlessly in their actions and killings of civilians. Hizbollah sucks so much I cannot comprehend it my self. The are a authoritarian religious movement, who kidnaps people, have suicidebombings(even amongst children) have smearcampaigns against libyen homosexuals, and many many other bad things.

But does that mean you automatically take the side of israel? Israel who for apparently many americans are a lighthouse of democratic freedom, and therefore look away from the violation of human rights, the kidnappings, the torture, the apartheid-like conditions, and much much more. How can anyone defend these actions performed by the Israeli government?

Some say “but hizbollah hides in civilian residental neighbourhoods”. yes but how does killing one hizbollah justifies the killings of hundreds og civilians (including children).
Is it okay to shoot everyone in the bank, just to hit the bankrobber?

Picture this. You are eitjer in libanon or israel with your dead baby in your hands - and someone tells you - well that was a necessity to kill the evil terrorist (and yes I do believe they are sons of bitches). It’s pretty easy for you too say, when you are on the other side of the big lake, not even knowing where in the world the gaza is.

Have some respect for the civilian individual who does not want to participate in this war. And bear in mind that these violent actions have a root - and this root just keeps on growing when killing even more wifes and daughters and infants.

Finally, somebody who posted with half a fucking brain. The Israelis and arabs have both been senselessly killing each other for years and years. Guess who won? Oh yeah! Nobody!

Not one of these morons has realized that they’re getting nowhere, so they keep blowing each other up. It’s a shithole, piece of fucking sand, really. These people are all complete scum, they’re wastes, all they do is kill. They both kill innocents, they both have no regard for life, they’re both wrong.

It’s funny to watch these dolts here argue over who’s right and wrong, like those two words even exist to those people. Then everybody licks some guys ass for doing an internet search about how many jackass arabs run around with bombs on them, wtf?

My question to all those picking sides here is: Were you born a moron, or did you go to college for that?

This guy makes another good point of how everybody just has to agree with Israel for some dumbass reason. You think the Jews are any more right than the arabs? Forget that they run our media and most other crap here for a second (if the drones here can think for themselves temporarily), and look at this from a moral persepctive as opposed to a political one. Are they right? How people can be this dumb is beyond my comprehension. [/quote]

Actually I found it incredibly naive.

It is the mindset of a child.

War is bad. Boo hoo. It is not fair.

[quote]MisterAmazing wrote:
Don’t get too angry Cletus, I mean rainjack, one of the few teeth you have may fall out.[/quote]

Whatever you have to say to make your puny little bitch-ass feel tougher, or meaner. ad hominem personal attacks are the mark of an extremely weak argument, assuming you have one at all.

And how long ago was 7th grade for you? My guess is that it wasn’t that long ago, 5 or 6 years tops.

Your liberal lawmakers voted for it as well - not just the President’s doing, there sparky. masybe you should have paid more attention in civics class - assumong you have been that far in school yet.

My question is - why are you frying rodents? Is that something you do a lot? I kinda think that is illegal - cruel at the very least. but i can see your cowardice shining through - let a machine do the work yo are too fucking scared to do yourself.

No - I have friends up there that are yankees. I wouldn’t insult them by including you in their company. You are a bitch. I don’t have to come up with new labels for you, although guido does spring to mind. It makes sense that you don’t read - it might interfere with you watching the Gottis.

Yes - I find the word “hick” and “redneck” offensive - especially when a cowardly little internet tough guy such as yourself is the one saying them. Is there something wrong with that?

As for freedom of thought - what the fuck does that even mean? Are you referring to having an open mind? Like I said - that is not a novel concept or something that the gov’t can dictate. If you actually had kids you would know how utterly stupid you sound.

You can’t stoop to a level that is over your head. But - I will say, you do have a grasp of the ad hominem attack.

If you want to think you are smarter than me because of what you were able to do in the 7th grade - knock yourself out. It is the person that brags about their intelligence that usually has inferiority issues.

Show me where I was against “freedom”. You can’t because I didn’t. I slammed you for your idiotic pie in the sky ideas. Ideas that are the mark of one that knows nothing about children, or educating them.

Mister Amazing, in order to protect the freedom that you and I enjoy in the US, the patriot act was necessary. The bottom line with the supposed surveilance done on people is that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.

JustTheFacts:

  1. What possible motive would the Israelis have for attacking an American ship? Before you answer, consider that the ship was spying on the ongoing conflict between Israel and the Arab states at the height of the Cold War, and that the United States likely would not have wanted the Russians to know that they were operating in the area.

  2. You do know that Israel gave back the Golan Heights and Gaza right? Oh, and I don’t know how to tell you this, but uh, Al Gore lost the election…six years ago.

Congratulations rainjack - you’ve won retard of the year award! It’s funny how all you did was reply with more insults, mispelled words, and curses as opposed to anything halfway intelligence. What did you mean my people voted for it[patriot act], too? I don’t have a political side, I support what’s right.

Also, many members of Congress admitted to not even reading the act before passing it; shows how dumb they are in general regardless of what party they represent. Also, how does that have anything to do with how bad the act itself is, I’m curious. You take offense to hick, I guess you are one, enough said on that. Yes, I don’t have kids yet, you’re correct. The only thing you slammed was yourself, you sound so ingnorant it’s honestly funny, I get a great laugh every time you reply.

How am I any more of an ‘internet tough guy’ than you or anybody else that posts here? Nobody cares what you say or think, you can’t even use proper grammar and write in a dignified manner; such as not swearing over and over with making no real point. Stop talking, maybe you won’t discredit those who share your views as much and they can have a better chance to debate back in an intellectual fashion.

You’re obviously very angry, maybe you have the inferiority issue. Stoop to a higher level-hahahaha, that’s truly funny. Let’s give a round of applause for rainjack, really, he’s a true example of a calm, collected, intelligent human being, if everybody acted and thought in a smiliar fashion, we’d have one great world! By the way, the tires on your house look flat =)

[quote]blck1jack wrote:
Mister Amazing, in order to protect the freedom that you and I enjoy in the US, the patriot act was necessary. The bottom line with the supposed surveilance done on people is that if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear.[/quote]

No, this is exactly what the founding fathers warned against. The terrorists are winning because of people like you, they’re winning because we’re losing freedom and becoming more and more like them out of fear.

To give up the principles upon which our great nation was founded in order to feel safer is cowardly to say the least, and it’s disgusting that we could ever begin to support this. Withoiut rights, we are only defending a country which is much different from the one we began as.

“Those who would give up essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

  • Benjamin Franklin

[quote]rainjack wrote:
MisterAmazing wrote:
How did he say pussify children? He makes a good point you fucking hick. We do have the ability to make a better enviornment for our children , just by making a substantial change in society, in the ways that we raise them. Everybody in this nation is scared to death of change, except passing an act that shit on our civil rights and everything this country was founded upon.

I just love the way you tough guys get on here and name call in lieu of a real response. I doubt you would be so fucking brave in person.

You honestly think you have a better way to raise children than the way is’t been done since there were children?

I am sick of the liberal bullshit. how many goddamned times did you read Hilary’s book? Dr. Spock’s offering?

We should focus on teaching our kids to think for themselves, teach them individuality. If we fail to do this they may wind up like some of you who still refuse to think outside the box.

My kids do. what’s so fucking new about that? My God - I would a year’s pay that you are nothing more than another fucking kid that has no clue about life other than what George Soros has told you to think - and you want to raise free thinking kids?

Hick, huh? at least I am proud enough to put my location down - pussies like you hide even while playing the fucking tough guy. You are a bitch.

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Hm, so everyone who doesnt agree with you seems to:

  1. Not have a fucking clue

  2. Be a young stupid kid

  3. Read some liberal book

The problem is rainjackass, your overly simplistic, delusional and immature comments seem to perfectly describe 1) and 2). While your classification of people based on their viewpoint in one subject area automatically places them in 3)- reinforcing the fact that you are a total idiot who loves jumping to conclusions and providing irrational solutions to complex problems.

They really do need a special filter for all the shit that you post on this forum.

[quote]MisterAmazing wrote:
Congratulations rainjack - you’ve won retard of the year award! It’s funny how all you did was reply with more insults, mispelled words, and curses as opposed to anything halfway intelligence. What did you mean my people voted for it[patriot act], too? I don’t have a political side, I support what’s right. [/quote]

You started the insults, and I am more than happy to oblige you. Since when is typing skills, or lack thereof, a sign of retardation? You must be a bigot of the highest order. I’m sure mommy and daddy are just beaming.

Question my intelligence all you want. You are void of any logic.

You support what’s right? LMMFAO!!! You support whatever is popular at the moment in your little cirlcle of friends. You have offered dick in the way of proof of your argument.

Explain how bad it is. I’m sure you can find the George Soros talking points somewhere. Have you read it with your 7th grade skills? You are a parrot, void of any “free thought” you brag about. You are the joke here - all talk - no ideas. Maybe you would do better at BB.com.

Define hick. I am not the one that has admitted to deep-frying small animals and a fascination with 18-wheelers. I believe that was you.

Because you are a chicken shit that has yet to say anything even remotely resembling a coherent argument. “Kids should have freedom of thought”. “PATRIOT Act bad”. What you have done is name call, throw racial slurs and been the bitch I called you out as being in my first post to you. That is an internet tough guy.

Another way to define it is - you would not call me any of those things in real life. You don’t have the stones = internet tough guy.

What in the hell makes you think that anyone cares what you say? You have been a member here for what? a month? I have been here since you were in like 8th grade.

I make my point every time I post. It is up to the reader to grasp it - something you have obviously cannot do. But that’s easy for you - since it is painfuilly obvious you have nothing of substance to say.

And yes - I cuss. So does just about everyone here - Are you prepared to call TC a retard, or whatever hate filled slur you come up with? Because, as I am sure you have scoured all of the writings here in your short tenure, you know full well that cussing is part of the vernacular. Besides - I am not writing a fucking term paper here.

With who? You? LMMFAO again!!! Dude - you are slaying me here. You have all the debate skill of the rodents you are fond of murdering and frying up.

Yeah - I feel inferior to a racist high-school kid. You are the one that keeps brining up intelligence. You act like a punk. I have no patience for punks. You are a short-lived boil on my ass. You will be gone soon - just like all the other tough guys that have tried to silence me.

Bigotry wears you well.

Now try and contribute something other than yet another contribution to the “I have a secret fascination with rainjack” club.

[quote]BoxBabaX wrote:
Hm, so everyone who doesnt agree with you seems to:

  1. Not have a fucking clue

  2. Be a young stupid kid

  3. Read some liberal book[/quote]

No - I do that with the children who get on here and profess to the board how fucking smart they were (or are)in 7th-grade. I disagree with the more intelligent people on here quite often. Ask Pookie, vroom, harry, even hspder.

The difference between them and kids like dannyrat, or this Miss Amazing person is that they actually have an argument that is well thought out and easily articulated.

No. You are wrong. I rise to the level of my opponent, as it were. Maybe I am simplistic. Since when did having a simple outlook equate immaturity? FYI - this is a political forum - not an open discussion of ideas. There are two sides - this is not a polygon.

Oh my GOD. I think that because I am on the other side of this from you - you feel the need to tell me I am an idiot. You are guilty of what you accuse me of.

What is irrational about my conclusions? Please. I want to hear this one. Are they irrational because they are departure from what you want to hear? Different thatn what you think? I think you are the irrational one. At the very least closed-minded.

I have a little newsflash for you - I am a conservative that is not ashamed of the extreme pride I have on my country. You and I will never agree.

They do - it’s called the “don’t fucking read my posts if you don’t like them” button.

Whether you like it or not - I drive up the hits here. People will click on a thread just to read what I have to say here in the political forums. So there is really very little a newb like you can do to get me silenced, other than to just click on the “don’t fucking read my posts if you don’t like them” button.

Have a great day.

Good point. Why are people so obsessed with grammatical error? Is this an orthography forums?

This one i can answer. Your whole mideast policy (luckily you have no influence, but it’s malignat anyway) is to increase the killings in retaliation, 'just to shew ‘em who’s boss’. How wise.

It’s a funny thing that the youth are the liberal ones, and the old people are the conservatives. The world your children will inherit, and you will gaze at vacantly from a bed or rocking-chair, could be one of tolerance and empathy, if people like myself (the future, like it or not) get good jobs and influence. That is not an egotistical sentiment. The young ‘bookworms’ (or students of culture and history) will be the ones setting policy. Conservatism is deeply unpopular, enjoy your imperial dream while it lasts.

I exhort you to type furiously in an attempt to hold onto the past. History is a pattern of failure to find balance, and reaction. You are a reaction to the ‘beatnik’ movement just as much as i am a reaction to you.

[quote] Whether you like it or not - I drive up the hits here. People will click on a thread just to read what I have to say here in the political forums.[/quote] Hahahahaha. It’s a good thing i wasn’t eatingw hen i read this. Yes, you are the shining beacon of wisdom and insight that all the flies of this world gravitate towards. In your words, we find promise of salvation.

I will have a great day. Gonna eat a sandwich, workout legs, eat some pasta and chicken, read Mr Nice, then hook up with this cute little asian girl later on.

You have, once again, written an entire post that could have been filled with political insight, that is instead composed of a vain attempt to suppress the voice of youthful hope.

This thread is called 'peace, propaganda and promised land. What is your opinion about how all cultures indoctrinate their children to conform to the hegemonic ideology? And how the interaction of these two ideologies, without tolerance or negotiation, will always lead to war?

[quote]rainjack wrote:

Diplomacy tried and tried again is pointless. Apeasers should rot in hell.

They want a fucking jihad? I say we give them one.

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It never occurs to the libs that, if more people thought like this, the war would be over by now.

HH

[quote]Headhunter wrote:
rainjack wrote:

Diplomacy tried and tried again is pointless. Apeasers should rot in hell.

They want a fucking jihad? I say we give them one.

It never occurs to the libs that, if more people thought like this, the war would be over by now.

HH
[/quote]

Weren’t you the guy recruiting for the army? No bias i assume?

Diplomacy WAS NOT TRIED. As soon as the war was over, the arabs were crushed. Then they struck out in terrorism. They were resisted, after causing horrific damage to a small percentage of Israeli soviety. Then, they tried negotiation. Shit, Arafat actually gave concessions in the Oslo accord. The Oslo agreement would have been sweet. Rabin gave some too. What happened to that guy?..

Straight after, Netanyahu was a belligerent, racist cunt. He would admit he is racist, and very prejudiced. A dangerous leader.

The Clinton/Barak thing was good. Not perfect, but much better. However, Palestine would still be an occupied country. It was also not cool to suggest Palestinians have a ‘new Jerusalem’, while Israel keeps Jerusalem. I think Jerusalem’s status will be the final thing that will keep this conflict alive.

Sharon… well, do i need to explain his absolute devotion to destroying any hope for peace, or humanity? He will rot, i will smile. This man is similar to Hitler.

Anyway, I could go on but i don’t want to hurt your eyes, or break your hearts to see your false presuppositions shattered. Why don’t you two old-timers who love war, and anyone else who wants to join, start a militia? You could kill all the terrorists you were able to. You could jog in the morning, to flee Israeli sniper fire and Palestinian bomb-shrapnel, and for weights? Maybe you could ‘pull’ some of the boulders off decaying children in the terrorist sites in Israel and also in Southern. Lots of poundage for tough guys.

Maybe after this little holiday, you wouldn’t be calling so loudly for more war, harder, faster, longer.

It’s a funny thing that the youth are the liberal ones, and the old people are the conservatives. The world your children will inherit, and you will gaze at vacantly from a bed or rocking-chair, could be one of tolerance and empathy, if people like myself (the future, like it or not) get good jobs and influence. That is not an egotistical sentiment. The young ‘bookworms’ (or students of culture and history) will be the ones setting policy. Conservatism is deeply unpopular, enjoy your imperial dream while it lasts.

  • Dannyrat

You’re absolutely right, that’s a good reason for myself to not get concerned over some redneck with the IQ of a soda can. Every kid I’ve spoken to since this poor excuse of an administration came to be opposes them greatly, their fall is inevitable. Go ahead and talk it up inbred(rainjack), you lose.

Where are ya Doogster?

Thanks for respect due man, but i’m going by the name THE BLADE now haha

It’s just a shame we’ll have to rebuild cities that were destroyed in a vain attempt to stop/kill a small militia of fuckers. Sins of the fathers, eh?

[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
Where are ya Doogster?[/quote]

Waiting for you to actually address the content of the posts and wondering why you dodged the question about your (lack of) education.

While you try to come up with some terrible response, here’s more reading for you:

http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1017.php

Exploiting Youth for Terror

Complied by Teach Kids Peace
updated April 2005

As part of the practice of including children in violent activities and in terror-supporting operations, Palestinian youth are often sent to participate in demonstrations and in confrontations with the Israeli army (at times they are taken out of school and bussed in for this purpose).

Palestinian groups also use children for smuggling, digging tunnels, spying and intelligence-gathering. The terrorists exploit their innocent appearance, which allows them to pass more easily through IDF roadblocks and to approach soldiers and Israeli settlements, the fact that they are easy to influence and recruit because of their tender age and the intensive incitement to which they have been exposed, and the tendency of Israeli soldiers to refrain from harming children.

Accordingly, the PA has adopted a public relations strategy that emphasizes the role of children and youth in the Intifada, while exploiting the injuries caused by the IDF (unwittingly) or by Palestinian fire to children caught in the midst of the fighting. As part of this strategy, Israel is often presented on television as a “conqueror without restraints” who does not think twice about hurting children while, to strengthen the message, horrific pictures of dead and wounded children are shown in the background. Some of the children killed at the beginning of the Intifada have been turned into symbols of the Palestinian struggle, and books, articles, songs and movies have been devoted to them. Their deaths have been exploited for profit on the world public opinion market, to fan the flames of hatred and revenge and to cultivate the Palestinian street’s consciousness of the violent struggle.

Palestinian Police commissioner Ghazi el-Jebali issued guidelines in 2002 stating that school children should not be sent to confrontation areas, in order not to endanger them. However, by not taking effective steps to keep children and youth out of the violence, the PA has ensured that these guidelines remain on paper only.

ATTEMPTED ATTACKS BY PALESTINIAN CHILDREN (PARTIAL LIST):

? April 2005: A 15-year-old Palestinian carrying five pipe bombs was arrested by soldiers at the Hawara checkpoint outside of Nablus when he attempted to detonate one of the bombs near them. Soldiers’ suspicions were aroused when the youth reached the checkpoint wearing a coat despite the hot weather. The soldiers stopped him and asked him to remove his coat; he lit a match in an attempt to detonate one of the bombs but dropped it when a soldier aimed his weapon at him. Inside the coat soldiers found four other pipe bombs. (Jpost.com)

? February 2005: A 15-year-old Palestinian was arrested at the Hawara checkpoint outside of Nablus, after he tried to smuggle an explosive belt in his bag. A homemade weapon was also found in his bag, in addition to 20 bullets. The youth raised the suspicion of one of the soldiers. During a search of his belongings, a ready to be used bomb-belt was discovered.

? March 2004: A 14-year-old Palestinian was stopped before he could blow himself up at the Hawara checkpoint outside of Nablus. The quick thinking of paratroopers at the checkpoint stopped Husam Abdu, 14, who was wearing a belt of explosives containing eight kilograms of explosives, plus bolts and screws.

The boy was standing in line with other Palestinians, some 20 meters from the spot where they are checked by the soldiers. The soldiers noticed him suddenly pushing out of line and spotted a suspicious bulge under his clothes. They ordered him to stop. The soldiers took cover behind concrete barricades, pointed their guns at him, and told him to remove his shirt. The explosives belt was then visible. Many of the Palestinians waiting in line meanwhile fled the scene. A police remote-controlled robot was brought in, carrying large scissors. The soldiers then gave the boy instructions how to cut the belt off his body.

The boy, who had learning disabilities and was teased in school, said he wanted to be a hero. He said his terrorist handlers promised him that his mother would receive about $20, and that the money was supposed to go to his mother. He was also promised to receive 72 virgins in paradise if he became a “jihad” martyr and died while killing Israelis.

? March 2004: An 11-year-old Palestinian boy, Abdullah Kuran, was stopped at the Hawara checkpoint with explosives stashed in several bags. He was supposed to pass through checkpoint and hand them to a woman waiting on the other side for five shekels. Unaware that one of the bags contained a 10-kilo bomb, he was stopped by soldiers who discovered it during a routine inspection.

A military policewoman at the checkpoint spotted wires protruding from the bag and stopped Abdullah. The explosive belt was packed with nuts and bolts, which militants use to make bombs deadlier, and connected to a cellular telephone. When Kuran’s dispatchers saw he had been stopped, they attempted to detonate the bomb by cellphone ? i.e. to use the youth as a homicide bomber, without his knowledge ? but failed.

? February 2004: Three Palestinian boys, ages 13, 14 and 16, were arrested at the Jalameh roadblock. The three had in their possession makeshift firearms, and admitted their intent to carry out a suicide attack in Afula. They told investigators that they had been recruited by a local Islamic Jihad official, and left a letter requesting that no one mourn for them because they would become shaheeds. The boys were identified as Jaffer Hussein, 13, Tarek Abu Mahsen, 14, and Ibrahim Suafta, 16, all from the West Bank village of Tubas.

? January 2003: Two Palestinian brothers, aged 14 and 17, infiltrated the Israeli settlement of Netzarim armed with knives. The two were lightly wounded prior to their capture.

? January 2003: Three Palestinian youths aged 15 and 16 were shot by security forces who spotted them as they attempted to enter Elei Zahav. Security forces found knives on the bodies.

? July 2002: Two boys, both 11 years old and carrying knives, were apprehended by Israeli security forces near the Dugit outpost. They planned to plant a bomb in the area, and one of the youths stated that he wished to commit suicide and had hoped to be killed by IDF fire.

? July 2002: A 17-year-old boy from Jenin was arrested. He had agreed to carry out a suicide attack within Israel, and was given two options: either a suicide attack in a crowded area using an explosive charge, or to enter Israel with a weapon and open fire at a crowd of civilians. The youth said he preferred the shooting attack, so that his body remain whole for his arrival in heaven. The youth then videotaped himself reciting his last will and testament, holding a Koran and a rifle. The youth attempted twice, unsuccessfully, to enter Israel.

? July 2002: Israeli security forces arrested another 15-year-old Palestinian girl who admitted to having agreed to carry out a suicide attack in Israel.

? June 2002: A 15-year-old Palestinian girl, arrested for throwing a firebomb at IDF soldiers, admitted during interrogation that she had previously been recruited as a suicide terrorist.

? May 2002: A 16-year-old resident of the Askar refugee camp was arrested while traveling in a taxi and carrying an explosive charge. He said that at age 14 he was recruited by Hamas, and he agreed to carry out a suicide attack. On the day of his arrest, he had a haircut, put on the explosive charge, was videotaped reading his last will and testament. Two individuals transported him to Jenin in a taxi, where he was arrested by the IDF.

? April 2002: Three Palestinian children, students at a Gaza school, attempted to crawl under the perimeter fence and perpetrate a suicide attack on the Jewish community of Netzarim, only to be shot dead by guards. The three were Ismail Soubh Ibrahim Abu Nada, age 12, Wael Ghazi Moustafa Hamarna, age 13, and Yousef Bassam Yousef Zakout, age 14. The following day, the Hamas Internet site announced that the three, who were sent by the Hamas, each left behind a last will and testament stressing their desire to die a martyr’s death.

? April 2002: Ahmed Salmi, 16 years old, a resident of Sheikh Radwan/Gaza, was killed by IDF forces near the Dugit outpost. Two pipe bombs, a bottle of gunpowder, and a map of the Gaza Strip on which Israeli towns were marked, were found on his body.

? April 2002: A 15-year-old Palestinian girl was arrested in Bethlehem, and confessed that she had been recruited into the Fatah’s al-Aqsa Brigades by her uncle, a senior Tanzim activist and bomb manufacturer from Bethlehem. Her uncle promised to supply her with an explosive belt and asked her to recruit additional girls from her school to carry out terrorist attacks. The girl’s younger sister discovered her plans and told their mother.

? March 2002: Bilal Wagia Kamel Walid-Ali, age 17 from Jenin, was arrested after attempting to perpetrate a suicide attack using a booby-trapped bird cage in the town of Karkur. On the day of the attack, Bilal was given a Kalashnikov rifle and was videotaped taking responsibility for the terrorist attack. He then dressed in an explosive charge and placed another charge in the birdcage. Bilal was then instructed to detonate both charges simultaneously once he arrived at his target area or in the event he was caught. Upon Bilal’s arrival in Karkur, he was caught and arrested.

? March 2002: Ghassan Mahmoud Naif Steiti, age 17 from the Jenin refugee camp, was arrested in Ramallah. Terrorists from Jenin, with connections in Ramallah, proposed that he perpetrate a suicide attack. Ghassan was then videotaped reciting his last will and testament and taking responsibility for the attack on behalf of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. Ghassan left in order to perpetrate the suicide attack in Tel-Aviv. On his way he noticed combat helicopters, was afraid that they were following him and postponed the attack. A few days later he attempted to travel to Tel-Aviv in order to carry out the attack, however the road was blocked and he returned to Ramallah. The third time he attempted to perpetrate the attack, he was stopped and arrested.

? February 2002: Nora Shalhoob, a 16-year-old Palestinian girl, was killed while charging a group of Israeli soldiers at a military checkpoint with a knife in her hand.

? February 2002: A 16-year-old Palestinian boy, resident of Tulkarem, was arrested on his way to carry out a suicide attack on behalf of the Hamas and Fatah. In addition, he mentioned that he had spoken before his entire school class, and announced that he was planning to carry out a terrorist attack and that he might not return. He requested that his classmates leave his seat empty and place flowers on his chair every day. Tanzim supplied him with the explosive charge and directed him to carry out the attack at a bus stop within Israel, between two buses, or to board a crowded bus and blow himself up. During the course of the arrest the youth attempted unsuccessfully to detonate the explosive charge.

? February 2002: Tawfiq Hashem Mahamid and Jalal Khalil Mahamid, both age 17 from Jenin, were killed as a result of an explosion in a vehicle near Mei Ami. The two were on their way to carry out a terrorist attack in a Tel Aviv nightclub, under the direction of Islamic Jihad.

? August 2001: A 15-year-old Palestinian boy was caught while attempting to carry out a suicide attack in the Beit Shean area. He said that he was a member of Islamic Jihad, all of whose members were prepared to commit suicide attacks. Another youth, also 16 years old, had recruited him to carry out the suicide attack.

? July 2001: Jihad Gawdat Mohammad Jarrar, was 17 years old when he was caught on his way to perpetrate a suicide attack in Afula on behalf of the Islamic Jihad. He was carrying a bag that contained an explosive charge, and was instructed to travel to Afula and detonate that explosive charge in a crowded area. He confessed that he started to think of carrying out terrorist attacks at the age of 12. At age 14 he manufactured an improvised rifle and purchased ammunition.

Kids brandish guns to test IDF vigilance
http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1026.php

Hamas Hate-Comics for Kids
http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1025.php

Hamas summer camp: ‘Kill Zionists’
http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc1021.php

Quotes by Parents and Children
What Are The Advantages of Freight Forwarder

Quotes by Parents and Children

compiled by Teach Kids Peace

Palestinian Authority spokesperson Hanan Ashrawi rebuked NBC journalists when they challenged that Palestinians are teaching their children to become murderers, stating that only monsters would do such things.

Despite resistance among many Palestinians to seeing their children participate in the violence, the Palestinian media has inculcated so much hatred that even mothers are sending their sons on suicide missions.

Quotes from Parents

? “I’m prepared to sacrifice my six children,” said Mahmoud Sumara’s mother, Halima. “I’m serious. I don’t mind if I lose them if that brings back al-Aqsa…” (NBC News)

? “I pray that G-d will choose them (to be martyrs),” says the father of a 13-year-old. (New York Times)

? “I am happy that he [my 13-year-old son] has been martyred. I will sacrifice all my sons and daughters (12 in all) to Al-Aqsa and Jerusalem.” (London Times)

? “If I had 20 children I would send them all down (to fight), I wouldn’t spare any of them. We’re not scared of death.” (Associated Press)

? Mother on PA TV, November 2004: (view video)

“We encourage them to Shahada [martyrdom] for the homeland, for Allah… We don’t say to the mothers of the Shahids, ‘We have come to comfort you’, but ‘We have come to bless you on the wedding of your son, on the Shahada of your son. Congratulations to you on the Shahada…’ For us, the mourning is joyous. We give out drinks, we give out sweets. Praise to God ? the mourning is joyous occasion.”

? Mother on PA TV, December 2002: (view video)

“Before I made my pilgrimage [to Mecca], Naji [my son] put his hand on my head and said: ‘Pray for me that I will be a Shahid, or it will be your sin, and I will not forgive you until the Judgment Day?’ I said: “Praise Allah, my children asked for Shahada,” and it is better than the way we will die.”

? Mother on PA TV, January 2003: (view video)

"He would always dream of Shahada [martyrdom]. It was his first and last goal in life. I told him: ‘Dear, we all want to be Shahids.’ He said: ‘In this entire world, I can’t think of anyone to marry. I don’t think of any girls of this world to marry. I want to marry the Dark Eyed (Virgins of Paradise).’ I said: ‘If these are his thoughts, I wish him Shahada.’

? Mother on PA TV, November 2003: (view video)

“A mother makes sounds of joy because she wants him to reach Shahada. He became a Shahid for Allah Almighty. I wanted the best for him, this is the best for [my son] Shaadi. When he became a Shahid, the Shahada [martyrdom] was not only for him but also for us, pride for us, honor for us. People started looking at us [saying], ‘This is Shahid’s brother,’ ‘This is Shahid’s mother,’ ‘This is Shahid’s sister.’ The pride was for the whole family, not just for Shaadi.”

? Mother on PA TV, September 2002: (view video)

“Praise to Allah, I hold my head high. The honor is mine, I have a son who is a Shahid [martyr]. And not only is my son a Shahid, but all the Shahids are my children, Praise Allah. The honor is mine; the pride is mine.”

Quotes from Children

? “We meet everyday and decide. We just want to get Israeli’s. I want to kill them,” says 15-year-old Mahmoud Sumara. (NBC News)

? “I’m happy to die for my country, as long as a couple of Israeli soldiers die, too,” says a 12-year-old boy from Beit Jala (Jerusalem Post)

? “I wrote my name on my arm so that I will be identified after I become a martyr.” (Palestinian child reports to media)

? “When I become a martyr, give out kannafa (traditional cake),” Wajdi Hatab, age 14, tells his classmates days before being killed. (Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida)

? “My purpose is not to be wounded, but something more sublime ? martyrdom,” says Ramahan Sahadi Abed Rabbah, age 13. (Palestinian Authority newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida)

? “When I wander into Jerusalem I will become a suicide bomber.” proclaims a young Palestinian, age 9. (Palestinian TV children’s show, “The Children’s Club”)

? “I come here to say that we will throw them to the quiet sea. Occupiers, your day is near, then we will settle our account. We will settle our claims with stones and bullets,” an 8-year-old boy announces. (Palestinian TV children’s show, “The Children’s Club”)

? “My heartfelt conviction is to launch a Jihad war,” says a 4-year-old. (Palestinian TV children’s show, “The Children’s Club”)

? “I want to die as a martyr. I will go straight to paradise if I do that,” said a 12-year-old Palestinian boy. (Times of London)

Hot Wired for Hatred
http://www.teachkidspeace.org/doc103.php

Mothers Who Send Children to Die
What Are The Advantages of Freight Forwarder

The Recruitment of Children in Current Palestinian Strategy

Child abuse in the Palestinian Authority

TWO YEARS ON
STILL EXPLOITING CHILDREN
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/angelforisrael/israel/twoyearson.html

COMBATING OLD/NEW JEW-HATRED
http://jerusalem.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/80016_comment.php