Peace, Propaganda & Promised Land

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]MisterAmazing wrote:
That’s a good reason for myself to not get concerned over some redneck with the IQ of a soda can. Every kid I’ve spoken to since this poor excuse of an administration came to be opposes them greatly, their fall is inevitable. Go ahead and talk it up inbred(rainjack), you lose.[/quote]

Yet you can’t stop referring to me. For all the tough talk about how I don’t matter - you sure have a thing for me.

Not that there is anything wrong with that…

But just so you know - you kids aren’t breaking any new ground here. Pat yourselves on the back if it makes you feel good, but the older you get - the more conservative you get. It’s called wisdom. It’s called common sense.

You boys will get both in time - assuming you move out of your parents’ house and actually contribute to the economy beyond paying tuition, and running up mommy’s credit cards.

I am still waiting on miss amazing to say something that actually matters here in the political forum. I fear that he will drift away what with his unrequited feelings for me and all. It happens all the time.

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1st post- Good point doogie. Good quotes, it’s fucking awful.

This type of shit is repulsive and depraved, and symptomatic of the shit out there. With all due respect though, that is -2 dozen children, out of a canton nation under constant suspicion and siege, that you have listed there. All of them combined is not a movement, surely?

Mate, if i had to live in Beirut or Gaza, i think i’d be far more twisted than i am now.

Because that is what they all have in common, isn’t it. Or is it religion? I think these are the dirty flowers that grow from seeds of neglect and empire, fed by hate and fanaticism. All these factors should be addressed right?

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[quote]doogie wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Where are ya Doogster?

Waiting for you to actually address the content of the posts and wondering why you dodged the question about your (lack of) education.

While you try to come up with some terrible response, here’s more reading for you:
[/quote]
Um, page 2? Read much?

And lol@you posting links to ANGEL FIRE pages. How credible.

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[quote]Inner Hulk wrote:
doogie wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Where are ya Doogster?

Waiting for you to actually address the content of the posts and wondering why you dodged the question about your (lack of) education.

While you try to come up with some terrible response, here’s more reading for you:

Um, page 2? Read much?

And lol@you posting links to ANGEL FIRE pages. How credible.[/quote]

Dipshit,
On page 2 you didn’t address anything the posts said, other than to call it PR propaganda. That is not addressing issues. That is AVOIDING the issues.

I notice you still haven’t replied to my question about your lack of education. Reading internet conspiracy websites isn’t an education.

As for the angelfire link, that was a lazy move on my part. I notice you were still unable to address any of the CONTENT of the article. Here is the original link I found the article referenced on along with many others you might find interesting:

http://www.israelactioncenter.org/?subject=36&language_id=1
http://www.palestine.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/82664_comment.php

THE USE OF PALESTINIAN CHILDREN
IN THE AL-AQSA INTIFADA

Hamas’ Determination to Perpetuate the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict:
The Critical Role of Hate Indoctrination

Teach Them to Hate:
The Use of Palestinian Childred - A Legal and Political Analysis
http://www.acpr.org.il/NATIV/2002-1/2002-1-weinerxs.htm

PA Summer Camps Named for Suicide Bombers
http://www.operationsick.com/doc130.php

Even if you are unable to read, you should at least click on the slide show in that last link. All of those kids are going to grow up to be just as “open minded” as you are.

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I cannot see the point in ddogsters post.

EVERY fucking one off us, with any brain att all, can see, that the things going on in hizbollah is mindblowing shit, to say it at least. These people/terrorists IS scum - but a lot of their scumness and hatred is based on the ongoing war in the area - though this does not justify any of their facist actions.

But answer me this, just because hizbollah and half the palestine is scumbags - how does that make every israelian fucking sacred, and saints.

Who the fuck is naive? huh? Not seeing that Israel is pretty deep involved in several severe things as I previously posted is pretty fucking naive!

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[quote]Hoejer wrote:
I cannot see the point in ddogsters post.

EVERY fucking one off us, with any brain att all, can see, that the things going on in hizbollah is mindblowing shit, to say it at least. These people/terrorists IS scum - but a lot of their scumness and hatred is based on the ongoing war in the area - though this does not justify any of their facist actions.[/quote]

The original post was about propaganda. Using comic books, television shows, cartoons, songs, and summer camps to convince kids to kill themselves is a sickening use of propaganda. Did that clear it up for you?

[quote]

But answer me this, just because hizbollah and half the palestine is scumbags - how does that make every israelian fucking sacred, and saints.[/quote]

Who said they were sacred and saints? We side with them because their enemies are also our enemies. If you think any of this has anything to do with the pre-67 borders or even the location of Israel, you are deluded. This is about Islamo-facists who want the entire world to convert or die.

[quote]
Who the fuck is naive? huh? Not seeing that Israel is pretty deep involved in several severe things as I previously posted is pretty fucking naive![/quote]

Your English is very hard to understand at times, so I just skimmed your previous post. Bottom line, as has been said before, what would happen if all of the Muslim world laid down their weapons? Contrast that with what would happen if Israel disarmed.

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I apologize for my poor english skills.

I see were you are coming from, and understand your point of view. The thing is, I just see glorification of the state of Israel so much - especially from Americans. Very few do not understand, that you don’t have to pick a side. Just because you are anti-islam/fascist/terror doesn’t mean you have to be pro-Israel. Why not be anti-both?

Many people just have the simplified idea, that “well, when hizbollah is bad, then Israel must be good”. It just sickens me, to see these pro-Israel people, when there is so much shit going on in that country.

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And a sidenote. Not every palestinian (sp?) is a islamo-fascist. A lot of Muslims just want to practice their religion in peace and harmony with every other religion. It is of course only the fsacist who make it to the media, and through too the viewers.

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[quote]doogie wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
doogie wrote:
Inner Hulk wrote:
Where are ya Doogster?

Waiting for you to actually address the content of the posts and wondering why you dodged the question about your (lack of) education.

While you try to come up with some terrible response, here’s more reading for you:

Um, page 2? Read much?

And lol@you posting links to ANGEL FIRE pages. How credible.

Dipshit,
On page 2 you didn’t address anything the posts said, other than to call it PR propaganda. That is not addressing issues. That is AVOIDING the issues.

I notice you still haven’t replied to my question about your lack of education. Reading internet conspiracy websites isn’t an education.

As for the angelfire link, that was a lazy move on my part. I notice you were still unable to address any of the CONTENT of the article. Here is the original link I found the article referenced on along with many others you might find interesting:

http://www.israelactioncenter.org/?subject=36&language_id=1
http://www.palestine.indymedia.org/news/2002/10/82664_comment.php

THE USE OF PALESTINIAN CHILDREN
IN THE AL-AQSA INTIFADA

Hamas’ Determination to Perpetuate the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict:
The Critical Role of Hate Indoctrination

Teach Them to Hate:
The Use of Palestinian Childred - A Legal and Political Analysis
http://www.acpr.org.il/NATIV/2002-1/2002-1-weinerxs.htm

PA Summer Camps Named for Suicide Bombers
http://www.operationsick.com/doc130.php

Even if you are unable to read, you should at least click on the slide show in that last link. All of those kids are going to grow up to be just as “open minded” as you are.[/quote]

My level of education is irrelevant, and if you think that piece of paper is anything more than processed wood with your name on it, you obviously should go back to school and dump another 30 grand on your edumacation.

Look at your sources, it’s so ridiculous. “Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs”, “Ariel Center for Policy Research”, etc. Everything you link to is blatantly biased, it’s not even worth debating the content of the article because it’s so one sided, just as it’s readers are(ie you).

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I think you’ve shown a very cool attitude hoejer. I agree with you man Stoner