Unless you know how to do it, I wouldn’t bother.
You might break your knuckles hitting with your fist, but you might shatter your wrist trying to do a fancy palm strike that you haven’t practiced.
My fists always served me fine. Plus I always like going to the body…my hands don’t break, and it hurts way more than a shot to the face.
[quote]treco wrote:
Donut62 wrote:
Fear the Mu Bae Choi bitch slap.
What happened to the dude in black right after that display? Extreme beatdown?[/quote]
Yea, Kharitonov rearranged his face.
There are lots of good Pancrase videos on Youtube, and they didn’t allow close fist striking so you can watch guys like Bas Rutten and Frank Shamrock completely fuck up peoples worlds with palm strikes. It’s pretty entertaining since you don’t see that type of striking much.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I’d wager that Frank Shamrock could kick the ass of anyone reading this thread. Here’s what his face looked like after “whimpy” open-handed blows:
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that was one of the most boring fights ive ever seen.
[quote]blok wrote:
CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I’d wager that Frank Shamrock could kick the ass of anyone reading this thread. Here’s what his face looked like after “whimpy” open-handed blows:
that was one of the most boring fights ive ever seen.[/quote]
Only because you’re too unsophisticated to understand what’s going on in the fight. If you actually “understood the language,” you would have seen the beauty in the fight.
Pancrase fighting uses open palm strikes.
This is a video of Bas Rutten. A couple of the knock outs are open hand strikes.
I would not recommend open hand strikes in a street fight unless you know what your doing. Use a closed fist for the most part, and do not hit someone in the back of the head with a closed fist. If you are in a situation where you can strike to the back of the head, then there are better choices you can make. closed fist blow to the back of the head means they don’t know how to fight.
Some things I recommend in street fighting are:
strike first - aim for chin or kick to balls, disable/distract and strike
Be quicker than your opponent - move and react to avoid a clean shot from your opponent, muffle blows by dodging/blocking, strike with explsove blows DO NOT TELEGRAPH your blows, they must be explosive and spontaneous
Counter attack - often when your opponent attempts a strike their guard is down and you can land clean shots to the face
Practice - learn to punch, learn to punch quick with power, learn to mave and react quick, learn to kick
Beware of your environment - people like to jump you on the street or bars, watch for possible weapons…anything can be a weapon…glass, bottle, chair, etc.
I personally think the only way to become good at street fighting is to do it. There is no substitute for the explosive nature, and adrenaline rush of a street fight. Inexperienced fighters often “freak out” and end up losing because they really didnt know what to expect and how to react. Flailing arms usually soar with little accuracy. Be prepared to lose. You may get hurt. You may get jumped. Try to have people with you to avoid/counter getting jumped.
Make sure the people you are with are not going to freak out and not help you when the shit goes down. Some people will watch you get beat and not do anything.
People often get into street fights when alcohol is involved. This is bad because alcohol effects a person’s ability to fight. But they normally dont care, hell their drunk and want to fight. LOL
So, if you think something may happen, ease up on the alcohol, let others (possibly your opponent) get liquored up while you stay sober. Keep your wits. Your opponent will move slow, react slow, and pretty much make his face like a target and close his eyes when you hit it.
What are the odds someone you may fight on the street works out? Now what are the odds they know how to work out? Now what are the odds they know how to fight? You can see how the odds begin to stack in your favor if you work out, know how to work out, practice fighting, have some experience fighting.
Most people do not practice strikes/fighting, and have been in very few, if any, stret fights so they dont know what they are doing. My personal best is 3 fights in one night. That was a fun night 
Thats one reason they call me petedacook - gets things cookin.
This is a cool video by Bas Rutten about street fighting:
Become famaliar with street fighting in order to get better at it, view hundreds of street fight videos here:
I am sorry, but I think some of you in this thread don’t know how to fight.
[quote]Kliplemet wrote:
Colucci wrote:
StevenF wrote:
I’d still just rather stab somebody.
Guess you’re a graduate of the Kliplemet Kwon Do Training Academy, huh?
i never stabbed anyone and there is no Kwon Do in Pekiti Tersia[/quote]
Someone sounds like they train dogbrothers… might see u at the may gathering
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
etaco wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Very nice! However I would say that from my (limited) experiences as a ‘Door supervisor’, lol, A timely palm strike to the solar plexus, delivered with a firm “NO!”, has stopped a lot of trouble before it got started…
Was this the “Door Supervisor” job at the kennel?
Sorry, I dunno what this means, lol. Anyway, no it was at a bar I used to work at. Bit of a poncey place, but every once in a while…[/quote]
I think he’s saying how you just emphatically say “NO” is akin to training a dog. So you must work at a kennel. If you said “Down boy!” the kennel part might have worked better (well a kennel or a strip club/brothel).
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
I am sorry, but I think some of you in this thread don’t know how to fight. [/quote]
Really? Maybe thats why people are asking for advice and opinions on fighting. And besides, who are you to judge peoples fighting abilities?
After reading your previous post, you sound like a punk looking for fights. Actually, if a new street fighter game comes out, you should be the John Madden announcer giving the obvious … strike first, people like to fight when they drink… I’d be lost without your wisdom.
3 fights in one night? Wow, big man, do you fight little boys or are you just a freak of nature with great conditioning?
[quote]Petedacook wrote:
That was a fun night Thats one reason they call me petedacook - gets things cookin. [/quote]
This just makes you sound more like a poser. Most street fighters I know tend to avoid conflict. It gets old after a while and having cops look for you every weekend is just not fun.
I don’t even know why I’m ranting, maybe its just b/c I’m drunk… or perhaps its just b/c i can’t stand tough guys like you on the internet who thinks they are superior after watching a couple UFC fights.
[quote]AznMscls wrote:
Petedacook wrote:
I am sorry, but I think some of you in this thread don’t know how to fight.
Really? Maybe thats why people are asking for advice and opinions on fighting. And besides, who are you to judge peoples fighting abilities?
After reading your previous post, you sound like a punk looking for fights. Actually, if a new street fighter game comes out, you should be the John Madden announcer giving the obvious … strike first, people like to fight when they drink… I’d be lost without your wisdom.
3 fights in one night? Wow, big man, do you fight little boys or are you just a freak of nature with great conditioning?
Petedacook wrote:
That was a fun night Thats one reason they call me petedacook - gets things cookin.
This just makes you sound more like a poser. Most street fighters I know tend to avoid conflict. It gets old after a while and having cops look for you every weekend is just not fun.
I don’t even know why I’m ranting, maybe its just b/c I’m drunk… or perhaps its just b/c i can’t stand tough guys like you on the internet who thinks they are superior after watching a couple UFC fights.[/quote]
HEY, I’ve watched WAY more than a couple UFC fights!
one time i stink-palmed a guy. it worked great.
More about genuine hand-to-hand:
http://www.urbancombatives.com/shredder.htm
Richard Dimitri would seriously laugh at someone who came at him with a closed fist. Street fighting is not schoolyard kiddie brawls, or slapping some drunk in a bar. Those things are fun and I did lots of both in my previous proletarian existence, but those things are NOT fighting.
Suggestion: go watch animals fight. In Detroit, where I grew up, you could go watch the chicken fights. Those fucking roosters were something else! Anyway, that’s the intensity of a street fight. Consider any fight you’re in as a fight to the death. That’s fighting.
[quote]AznMscls wrote:
This just makes you sound more like a poser. Most street fighters I know tend to avoid conflict. It gets old after a while and having cops look for you every weekend is just not fun.[/quote]
Another poser. The reason someone becomes a street fighter is because he does it often. It’s easy to avoid fights. It was rare indeed when I could not have avoided a fight. In fact, I can’t think of one time where I wasn’t at least partially responsible for the fight starting.
Some guys go through a phase where that’s what they lived for. I went through the phase. Sure, today I avoid fights, but that’s because I’m too old and don’t want to be sued and get arrested. I did not have that same attitude when I was 12-19.
I also do not consider myself a street fighter. I’m just a banged-up old fart who used to be one. So that I avoid fights is not probative of what ACTUAL fighters do.
You, obviously, have never been a fighter, nor have you been around many.
Quit fronting.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
More about genuine hand-to-hand:
http://www.urbancombatives.com/shredder.htm
Richard Dimitri would seriously laugh at someone who came at him with a closed fist. Street fighting is not schoolyard kiddie brawls, or slapping some drunk in a bar. Those things are fun and I did lots of both in my previous proletarian existence, but those things are NOT fighting.
Suggestion: go watch animals fight. In Detroit, where I grew up, you could go watch the chicken fights. Those fucking roosters were something else! Anyway, that’s the intensity of a street fight. Consider any fight you’re in as a fight to the death. That’s fighting.
[/quote]
Does anyone else besides me think headhunter is a 15 year old kid who watches too many Steven Segal movies?
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
AznMscls wrote:
This just makes you sound more like a poser. Most street fighters I know tend to avoid conflict. It gets old after a while and having cops look for you every weekend is just not fun.
Another poser. The reason someone becomes a street fighter is because he does it often. It’s easy to avoid fights. It was rare indeed when I could not have avoided a fight. In fact, I can’t think of one time where I wasn’t at least partially responsible for the fight starting.
Some guys go through a phase where that’s what they lived for. I went through the phase. Sure, today I avoid fights, but that’s because I’m too old and don’t want to be sued and get arrested. I did not have that same attitude when I was 12-19.
I also do not consider myself a street fighter. I’m just a banged-up old fart who used to be one. So that I avoid fights is not probative of what ACTUAL fighters do.
You, obviously, have never been a fighter, nor have you been around many.
Quit fronting. [/quote]
Poser? Are you blind or can you just not read? I never stated that I ever fought in my last post.
BUT if I was a fighter, I would not consider it easy as you say to avoid a fight. Heck… if I was a fighter I would presume it to be harder to avoid one rather than engaging.
I’m sorry it took you that long to realize you didn’t want to get sued or arrested, some people come to that realization quicker.
You obviously have never been in that many street fights. Have you ever been arrested? Have you ever been charged with assault? Have you had to pay someones medical bills? After a few times, people tend to smarten up and start to avoid fights. Either that or you’re blessed with luck that everywhere and everyone you fought didn’t call or give up your name to the police.
YOU, obviously, have never been a street fighter, or maybe its perhaps you were just to slow to realize the cost severely outweighs the fun, joy, excitement or what-have-yous of street fighting.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
…if I’ve got a guy mounted.
Ooooer missus! J/k :)[/quote]
LOL. Good one. Yes, but then I prefer Rear Mount, and palm strikes are definetely the way to go once again. 
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
AznMscls wrote:
This just makes you sound more like a poser. Most street fighters I know tend to avoid conflict. It gets old after a while and having cops look for you every weekend is just not fun.
Another poser. The reason someone becomes a street fighter is because he does it often. It’s easy to avoid fights. It was rare indeed when I could not have avoided a fight. In fact, I can’t think of one time where I wasn’t at least partially responsible for the fight starting.
Some guys go through a phase where that’s what they lived for. I went through the phase. Sure, today I avoid fights, but that’s because I’m too old and don’t want to be sued and get arrested. I did not have that same attitude when I was 12-19.
I also do not consider myself a street fighter. I’m just a banged-up old fart who used to be one. So that I avoid fights is not probative of what ACTUAL fighters do.
You, obviously, have never been a fighter, nor have you been around many.
Quit fronting. [/quote]
People forget that in order to be considered a “street fighter” (a term thrown around so loosely that I think it’s fucking hysterical), you have to be an asshole.
Not the, “Yea, I’m an asshole” in the Dennis Leary sense of the word, but mostly a true dick who takes offense at very small things and is willing to risk possibly killing someone over them.
I’m 22, and I don’t look at fighting the same as I did when I was 18. Once you have to run from the cops because they’re going to arrest you for assault or you catch a beer bottle in the eye, fighting becomes a lot less fun.
I could have probably avoided most of the fights I’ve been in. I don’t really have much to prove to anyone now, and I’m too old to not be able to think about being thrown in jail getting sued by some asshole at a bar.
My original theory still stands though- when you try to do things like “palm strikes” because you saw someone do it and it looked cool, you’re going to break your wrist and end up looking like an asshole.
Not to mention you’ll get stomped.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Consider any fight you’re in as a fight to the death. That’s fighting.
Agreed, but it’s also the fastest way to accidentally end up in prison.[/quote]
I read a book by Marc MacYoung once where he went through the difference between “fighting” and “combat”. As I recall, he said something about how alot of guys are ready to fight- very few are ready for combat where someone may die in the encounter. I’ve never been in combat, nor do I ever want to be.
Fighting is fighting. Combat is survival. I wouldn’t mix them up.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
It is just a bitch slap.[/quote]
Tell that to Bas Rutten. Look at his old fights, the open palm strike was very effective.