[quote]nomorewar wrote:
2 million dollars!??!?! wow do you have a source?? if thats the case, mayweather should he glad he’ll get a 65/35 share.[/quote]
3 to 4 million buys, not dollars.
Each buy is around 50 dollars or so, so you’re talking a colossal amount of money.
[quote]lott42 wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
lott42 wrote:
Hopefully Floyd will break his brittle right hand on Pacs head in the 1st round so it’ll be useless for the rest of the fight. The one thing that gives Pac a hard time is a good jab, and Floyds got one of the best in the business. Also he’s one of the best defensive fighters since Pernell Whitaker.
It’ll be a fun fight, IF it happens in May.
Lol that happened with Hernandez, he still won that fight though. You better hope he hurts his rotator cuff in training, that really hurt in the first Castillo fight.
I hope you’re not comparing Carlos Hernandez to Pacquiao.
In this fight you’re going to have the known vs the unknown. We all know what Floyd brings to the table. There’s no need to type it, there’s just too much he can do. But with Pacquiao, he brings something new to every fight. Whether it’s combinations, footwork, head movement and now power and the ability to take a hit at a higher weight.
If I’m Pac, I’m going to hit Floyd everywhere. His head, shoulders, arms, and lats. I believe Pac will match Floyds speed because against Cotto, he was planting his feet more to have more power.
But the ability to dictate this fight still goes to Floyd, so right now, I’ll take Floyd by split decision. [/quote]
I don’t think anyone is comparing Hernandez to Pac… but I agree with you.
It will certainly be interesting.
[quote]lott42 wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
lott42 wrote:
Hopefully Floyd will break his brittle right hand on Pacs head in the 1st round so it’ll be useless for the rest of the fight. The one thing that gives Pac a hard time is a good jab, and Floyds got one of the best in the business. Also he’s one of the best defensive fighters since Pernell Whitaker.
It’ll be a fun fight, IF it happens in May.
Lol that happened with Hernandez, he still won that fight though. You better hope he hurts his rotator cuff in training, that really hurt in the first Castillo fight.
I hope you’re not comparing Carlos Hernandez to Pacquiao.
In this fight you’re going to have the known vs the unknown. We all know what Floyd brings to the table. There’s no need to type it, there’s just too much he can do. But with Pacquiao, he brings something new to every fight. Whether it’s combinations, footwork, head movement and now power and the ability to take a hit at a higher weight.
If I’m Pac, I’m going to hit Floyd everywhere. His head, shoulders, arms, and lats. I believe Pac will match Floyds speed because against Cotto, he was planting his feet more to have more power.
But the ability to dictate this fight still goes to Floyd, so right now, I’ll take Floyd by split decision. [/quote]
No, I was saying the broken hand didn’t hurt Floyd much while a injured shoulder did. So if you want Floyd to have an injury; hope he injures his rotatr cuff in training.
I think the biggest problem with hitting Floyd everywhere is actually hitting him everywhere.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
lott42 wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
lott42 wrote:
Hopefully Floyd will break his brittle right hand on Pacs head in the 1st round so it’ll be useless for the rest of the fight. The one thing that gives Pac a hard time is a good jab, and Floyds got one of the best in the business. Also he’s one of the best defensive fighters since Pernell Whitaker.
It’ll be a fun fight, IF it happens in May.
Lol that happened with Hernandez, he still won that fight though. You better hope he hurts his rotator cuff in training, that really hurt in the first Castillo fight.
I hope you’re not comparing Carlos Hernandez to Pacquiao.
In this fight you’re going to have the known vs the unknown. We all know what Floyd brings to the table. There’s no need to type it, there’s just too much he can do. But with Pacquiao, he brings something new to every fight. Whether it’s combinations, footwork, head movement and now power and the ability to take a hit at a higher weight.
If I’m Pac, I’m going to hit Floyd everywhere. His head, shoulders, arms, and lats. I believe Pac will match Floyds speed because against Cotto, he was planting his feet more to have more power.
But the ability to dictate this fight still goes to Floyd, so right now, I’ll take Floyd by split decision.
No, I was saying the broken hand didn’t hurt Floyd much while a injured shoulder did. So if you want Floyd to have an injury; hope he injures his rotatr cuff in training.
I think the biggest problem with hitting Floyd everywhere is actually hitting him everywhere. [/quote]
But you gotta throw punches in bunches to get close to Floyd, and Pac has the stamina to do it for 12 rounds. It’ll be like 6-7 punches to land 2 on that slick mutha f*cka. It would be safe to say that Floyd doesn’t have the power of Cotto, so if Pac can take some of those right hand shots that Floyd will land, Pac will try to stay in the eye of the storm.
And no I wouldn’t want Floyd to have an injury. I don’t even wish that on athletes I don’t like. And I like Floyds skill set.
Hopefully they’ll fight in May.
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
drewh wrote:
They are saying the fight did 2 million ppv buys and the Mayweather Pacman fight could bring in 3 to 4 million!!! There are some interesting matchups in the future too. Cotto vs plasterless Margarito, Hatton vs Marquez. Boxing is starting to make a comeback, Brock Lesnar may never fight again (jk) life is good.
great post. Don’t forget about mosley…
2 million dollars!??!?! wow do you have a source?? if thats the case, mayweather should he glad he’ll get a 65/35 share.[/quote]
oops my bad… buys is what I meant. Now im hearing that Bob arum is saying it’s south of 1.5 million buys at this point. It exceeds significantly, mayweather vs marquez(1.1 million) so pacs team will have the upper hand in the negotiations.I wonder if the pac team will give up(lots) money to get mayeather to go down to 140-144 for the fight.
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
nomorewar wrote:
drewh wrote:
They are saying the fight did 2 million ppv buys and the Mayweather Pacman fight could bring in 3 to 4 million!!! There are some interesting matchups in the future too. Cotto vs plasterless Margarito, Hatton vs Marquez. Boxing is starting to make a comeback, Brock Lesnar may never fight again (jk) life is good.
great post. Don’t forget about mosley…
2 million dollars!??!?! wow do you have a source?? if thats the case, mayweather should he glad he’ll get a 65/35 share.
oops my bad… buys is what I meant. Now im hearing that Bob arum is saying it’s south of 1.5 million buys at this point. It exceeds significantly, mayweather vs marquez(1.1 million) so pacs team will have the upper hand in the negotiations.I wonder if the pac team will give up(lots) money to get mayeather to go down to 140-144 for the fight. [/quote]
If Pacs camp wants me to fight at 140-144, and I’m Floyd, I’d say “Fuck You”
If you want me at 145, 60-40
147, Well let’s see if I can still get 55-45, (but I’ll eventually take 50-50, cuz I am gonna be 33 years old, and do I really want to fight Shane Mosley and make less money overall)
Speaking of Mosley, I can’t wait for the Berto fight. I wish Pacquiao or Mayweather would take a fight with him.
If there’s a catchweight, which I don’t there will be, I think it’d be at 145-146.
yeah if theres a catch weight floyd shud get more money for sure, they r welter weights fighting for the belt for fuck sakes fight at 147! Another thing, i think manny would beat any of the opponents he has faced at ANY weight, but has anyone realized he has not had a fight at welter weight(147) yet? seriously Roach trys to give Manny every advantage, and if anyone opposes it he throws a fit. Roach has already gone on record (today) saying he would like Manny to fight Floyd at 144. This isnt a bash on Manny, Im just tired of Roach pulling his bullshit. I think Manny deserves alot of accomodations, but its like Freddy wants to re-arrange the welterweight division to 144 just for Manny.
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
yeah if theres a catch weight floyd shud get more money for sure, they r welter weights fighting for the belt for fuck sakes fight at 147! Another thing, i think manny would beat any of the opponents he has faced at ANY weight, but has anyone realized he has not had a fight at welter weight(147) yet? seriously Roach trys to give Manny every advantage, and if anyone opposes it he throws a fit. Roach has already gone on record (today) saying he would like Manny to fight Floyd at 144. This isnt a bash on Manny, Im just tired of Roach pulling his bullshit. I think Manny deserves alot of accomodations, but its like Freddy wants to re-arrange the welterweight division to 144 just for Manny.
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I’m a big Pac supporter. But if you’re going to walk around with that belt, you’d better fight at that weight, or give it up. Roach does go farther in protecting Pac, he’s his cash cow, but they also have a father and son relationship.
If they want Floyd to fight at less than 147, I don’t want the fight to happen. Floyd shouldn’t have to give up anything.
[quote]cutthoat25 wrote:
yeah if theres a catch weight floyd shud get more money for sure, they r welter weights fighting for the belt for fuck sakes fight at 147! Another thing, i think manny would beat any of the opponents he has faced at ANY weight, but has anyone realized he has not had a fight at welter weight(147) yet? seriously Roach trys to give Manny every advantage, and if anyone opposes it he throws a fit. Roach has already gone on record (today) saying he would like Manny to fight Floyd at 144. This isnt a bash on Manny, Im just tired of Roach pulling his bullshit. I think Manny deserves alot of accomodations, but its like Freddy wants to re-arrange the welterweight division to 144 just for Manny.
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At first I thought Floyd might keep this fight from happening, after reading some of what Roach is saying it seems like his stipulations might. Roach wants Manny to get a 60/40 split and for there to be a 145 catchweight. In addition to that, Mayweather doesn’t like Arum. The fight currently seems impossible.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
cutthoat25 wrote:
yeah if theres a catch weight floyd shud get more money for sure, they r welter weights fighting for the belt for fuck sakes fight at 147! Another thing, i think manny would beat any of the opponents he has faced at ANY weight, but has anyone realized he has not had a fight at welter weight(147) yet? seriously Roach trys to give Manny every advantage, and if anyone opposes it he throws a fit. Roach has already gone on record (today) saying he would like Manny to fight Floyd at 144. This isnt a bash on Manny, Im just tired of Roach pulling his bullshit. I think Manny deserves alot of accomodations, but its like Freddy wants to re-arrange the welterweight division to 144 just for Manny.
At first I thought Floyd might keep this fight from happening, after reading some of what Roach is saying it seems like his stipulations might. Roach wants Manny to get a 60/40 split and for there to be a 145 catchweight. In addition to that, Mayweather doesn’t like Arum. The fight currently seems impossible.[/quote]
the fight is gonna happen. No doubt about it. at the end of the day,money talks(haha both money’s). I heard on espn, The fight is being targeted for march!
as far as the weight goes… It will most likely be at 147.
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
cutthoat25 wrote:
yeah if theres a catch weight floyd shud get more money for sure, they r welter weights fighting for the belt for fuck sakes fight at 147! Another thing, i think manny would beat any of the opponents he has faced at ANY weight, but has anyone realized he has not had a fight at welter weight(147) yet? seriously Roach trys to give Manny every advantage, and if anyone opposes it he throws a fit. Roach has already gone on record (today) saying he would like Manny to fight Floyd at 144. This isnt a bash on Manny, Im just tired of Roach pulling his bullshit. I think Manny deserves alot of accomodations, but its like Freddy wants to re-arrange the welterweight division to 144 just for Manny.
At first I thought Floyd might keep this fight from happening, after reading some of what Roach is saying it seems like his stipulations might. Roach wants Manny to get a 60/40 split and for there to be a 145 catchweight. In addition to that, Mayweather doesn’t like Arum. The fight currently seems impossible.
the fight is gonna happen. No doubt about it. at the end of the day,money talks(haha both money’s). I heard on espn, The fight is being targeted for march!
as far as the weight goes… It will most likely be at 147. [/quote]
That would depend on how realistic Roach is, I highly doubt Floyd is going to agree to 60/40. I really don’t see how you think Floyd is so desperate for the fight he’ll take the lower purse, unless he gets a generous portion of the PPV money. Do I think Floyd will agree to a small purse and catchweight? No. He thinks he has nothing to prove by fighting Pacquiao and he’ll obviously think he deserves more money.
That’s just when Manny wants to fight, they’ve to get with Floyd first.
[quote]goldengloves wrote:
nomorewar wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
cutthoat25 wrote:
yeah if theres a catch weight floyd shud get more money for sure, they r welter weights fighting for the belt for fuck sakes fight at 147! Another thing, i think manny would beat any of the opponents he has faced at ANY weight, but has anyone realized he has not had a fight at welter weight(147) yet? seriously Roach trys to give Manny every advantage, and if anyone opposes it he throws a fit. Roach has already gone on record (today) saying he would like Manny to fight Floyd at 144. This isnt a bash on Manny, Im just tired of Roach pulling his bullshit. I think Manny deserves alot of accomodations, but its like Freddy wants to re-arrange the welterweight division to 144 just for Manny.
At first I thought Floyd might keep this fight from happening, after reading some of what Roach is saying it seems like his stipulations might. Roach wants Manny to get a 60/40 split and for there to be a 145 catchweight. In addition to that, Mayweather doesn’t like Arum. The fight currently seems impossible.
the fight is gonna happen. No doubt about it. at the end of the day,money talks(haha both money’s). I heard on espn, The fight is being targeted for march!
as far as the weight goes… It will most likely be at 147.
That would depend on how realistic Roach is, I highly doubt Floyd is going to agree to 60/40. I really don’t see how you think Floyd is so desperate for the fight he’ll take the lower purse, unless he gets a generous portion of the PPV money. Do I think Floyd will agree to a small purse and catchweight? No. He thinks he has nothing to prove by fighting Pacquiao and he’ll obviously think he deserves more money.
That’s just when Manny wants to fight, they’ve to get with Floyd first.[/quote]
I think both camps know that there is no chance in hell that the fight wont be made… so they’re gonna hold off as long as they can until somebody bites… pacquiao vs cotto probably will end up being 1.5 million+ buys … much more than floyds last fight… and lets face it, with pacs popularity increasing everyday… he’ll generate way more money than mayweather… mayweather’s camp will have to face that reality at some point and thats where they’ll bite. Way more people want to see pacquiao as opposed to mayweather and that’s a fact. I can appreciate mays talent and skill but the general public wont give a shit about mays impressive defense… they just wanna see a brawl… and the people know who to see for a brawl.
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
nomorewar wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
cutthoat25 wrote:
yeah if theres a catch weight floyd shud get more money for sure, they r welter weights fighting for the belt for fuck sakes fight at 147! Another thing, i think manny would beat any of the opponents he has faced at ANY weight, but has anyone realized he has not had a fight at welter weight(147) yet? seriously Roach trys to give Manny every advantage, and if anyone opposes it he throws a fit. Roach has already gone on record (today) saying he would like Manny to fight Floyd at 144. This isnt a bash on Manny, Im just tired of Roach pulling his bullshit. I think Manny deserves alot of accomodations, but its like Freddy wants to re-arrange the welterweight division to 144 just for Manny.
At first I thought Floyd might keep this fight from happening, after reading some of what Roach is saying it seems like his stipulations might. Roach wants Manny to get a 60/40 split and for there to be a 145 catchweight. In addition to that, Mayweather doesn’t like Arum. The fight currently seems impossible.
the fight is gonna happen. No doubt about it. at the end of the day,money talks(haha both money’s). I heard on espn, The fight is being targeted for march!
as far as the weight goes… It will most likely be at 147.
That would depend on how realistic Roach is, I highly doubt Floyd is going to agree to 60/40. I really don’t see how you think Floyd is so desperate for the fight he’ll take the lower purse, unless he gets a generous portion of the PPV money. Do I think Floyd will agree to a small purse and catchweight? No. He thinks he has nothing to prove by fighting Pacquiao and he’ll obviously think he deserves more money.
That’s just when Manny wants to fight, they’ve to get with Floyd first.
I think both camps know that there is no chance in hell that the fight wont be made… so they’re gonna hold off as long as they can until somebody bites… pacquiao vs cotto probably will end up being 1.5 million+ buys … much more than floyds last fight… and lets face it, with pacs popularity increasing everyday… he’ll generate way more money than mayweather… mayweather’s camp will have to face that reality at some point and thats where they’ll bite. Way more people want to see pacquiao as opposed to mayweather and that’s a fact. I can appreciate mays talent and skill but the general public wont give a shit about mays impressive defense… they just wanna see a brawl… and the people know who to see for a brawl.[/quote]
You think Mayweather is going to have to face reality… Have you heard him talk before? I don’t see Floyd being interested in taking the smaller split unless he gets 60% of ppv and chooses ring size. Mayweather can just tell them to fuck off and Fight Mosley too.
Neither of them have that much power in the negotiations, they’re going to have to work together to make it happen.
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
nomorewar wrote:
goldengloves wrote:
cutthoat25 wrote:
yeah if theres a catch weight floyd shud get more money for sure, they r welter weights fighting for the belt for fuck sakes fight at 147! Another thing, i think manny would beat any of the opponents he has faced at ANY weight, but has anyone realized he has not had a fight at welter weight(147) yet? seriously Roach trys to give Manny every advantage, and if anyone opposes it he throws a fit. Roach has already gone on record (today) saying he would like Manny to fight Floyd at 144. This isnt a bash on Manny, Im just tired of Roach pulling his bullshit. I think Manny deserves alot of accomodations, but its like Freddy wants to re-arrange the welterweight division to 144 just for Manny.
At first I thought Floyd might keep this fight from happening, after reading some of what Roach is saying it seems like his stipulations might. Roach wants Manny to get a 60/40 split and for there to be a 145 catchweight. In addition to that, Mayweather doesn’t like Arum. The fight currently seems impossible.
the fight is gonna happen. No doubt about it. at the end of the day,money talks(haha both money’s). I heard on espn, The fight is being targeted for march!
as far as the weight goes… It will most likely be at 147.
That would depend on how realistic Roach is, I highly doubt Floyd is going to agree to 60/40. I really don’t see how you think Floyd is so desperate for the fight he’ll take the lower purse, unless he gets a generous portion of the PPV money. Do I think Floyd will agree to a small purse and catchweight? No. He thinks he has nothing to prove by fighting Pacquiao and he’ll obviously think he deserves more money.
That’s just when Manny wants to fight, they’ve to get with Floyd first.
I think both camps know that there is no chance in hell that the fight wont be made… so they’re gonna hold off as long as they can until somebody bites… pacquiao vs cotto probably will end up being 1.5 million+ buys … much more than floyds last fight… and lets face it, with pacs popularity increasing everyday… he’ll generate way more money than mayweather… mayweather’s camp will have to face that reality at some point and thats where they’ll bite. Way more people want to see pacquiao as opposed to mayweather and that’s a fact. I can appreciate mays talent and skill but the general public wont give a shit about mays impressive defense… they just wanna see a brawl… and the people know who to see for a brawl.[/quote]
Wut ur saying here is true, BUT thats not Floyd’s angle. He is saying there r far more people who will pay to see HIM LOSE than they will to see Pac fight. which is kinda valid, people do think this is the guy who can shut Mays mouth for good. Also Pac/Cotto may have earned more than Mayweather/Marquez, but Mayweather/Delahoya earned more than Paciuao/Delahoya and Mayweather/Hatton also earned more than Pacqiuao/ Hatton. i think thats a more fair assesement. On the other hand Pac has blown up! Ive seen his nike shirts everywhere here in cali…a good size community of philipinos here
one more point…whos team will do the better job of promoting/building up the payperview hits? a shy pacqiuao oldman arum? or Golden boy productions and FLOYDS MOUTH? not to mention the shit Roger and Floyd sr. r gonna talk to Freddie Roach. From this point who desrves more money? its not about wut happens in the ring its all about promoting and getting people to pay…When it comes to money that is
Take them balls out of your mouth already.
should we see if we can stuff’emin ur mouth?..oh wait… my bad ur already gargling phillipino nuts.
Funny how Pacquiao fans want the fight and Mayweather fans don’t. Even ESPN was saying how Pacquiao fans are blowing up the web about a Pacquiao vs Maybweather fight, and Mayweather fans are in a middle ground because Floyd isn’t about the sport but about the “check cashing biz.” I don’t think that Pacquiao needs this fight as much as Mayweather needs it. And although Mayweather has proven to be a great boxer, if he never fights Manny, people will forget about him and Pacquiao will just get bigger.
[quote]johnson575 wrote:
Funny how Pacquiao fans want the fight and Mayweather fans don’t. Even ESPN was saying how Pacquiao fans are blowing up the web about a Pacquiao vs Maybweather fight, and Mayweather fans are in a middle ground because Floyd isn’t about the sport but about the “check cashing biz.” I don’t think that Pacquiao needs this fight as much as Mayweather needs it. And although Mayweather has proven to be a great boxer, if he never fights Manny, people will forget about him and Pacquiao will just get bigger.[/quote]
Nobody who watches boxing doesn’t want this fight to happen that makes no sense